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MacMini startup and shutdown problem

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Rifty - 15 Jan 2008 22:09 GMT
I have a MacMini (OSX.4.11) that has decided it won't turn itself off
fully without my pressing the button at the back after it has shut
itself down (i.e., the light on the front has gone off). Additionally, I
have it set to turn itself on at 8:00 am on weekdays and it now doesn't
respond to that. Not sure how old it is now but probably 2-3 yrs or so
(1.66 gHz duo with 2 gigs of RAM). I have done the usual software
maintenance things with Applejack and Onyx and can't think of a
particular reason why it might have started this behaviour. In itself
it's not a big deal but I am concerned that it may indicate something
more sinister going on with the operating system. It seems otherwise to
be working fine. It's had a lot of hard work but it's been a great
little computer.

Rifty
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Andy - 16 Jan 2008 07:58 GMT
> I have a MacMini (OSX.4.11) that has decided it won't turn itself off
> fully without my pressing the button at the back after it has shut
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>
> Rifty

Hi Rifty,

Have you tried resetting the PMU?

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300574

(This also resets the PRAM)

It's unlikely at 2-3 years old, but perhaps a flat PRAM battery?

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86181

I've no idea how difficult it is to replace the battery in a Mini, as
I've only had to do it on an eMac (fairly simple) and my G4 PowerMac
(piss easy).

If I was a betting man, I'd be willing to bet that the problem lies
somewhere within PMU settings.

Andy.
Rifty - 16 Jan 2008 22:24 GMT
> > I have a MacMini (OSX.4.11) that has decided it won't turn itself off
> > fully without my pressing the button at the back after it has shut
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> If I was a betting man, I'd be willing to bet that the problem lies
> somewhere within PMU settings.

That all sounds logical, Andy, and I would have put that on my list of
things to do next had not a different solution apparently came about. I
shifted the MacMini when I needed to connect it to a 46" HD TV and
discovered there was a fair bit of fluff and dust and stuff round its
fan intake, so gave it a thorough vacuum and clean. What I think was
happening with the unusually warm weather we were having, and the fact
that it was in a fairly airless spot, was that it was overheating and
was wanting to fan itself more to get to a lower temp before actually
turning off completely. (I think it 'forgets' to turn off actually in
that case). My pressing the button after a few minutes apparently meant
that it interfered with the morning startup. It worked fine last night
shutting down and this morning starting up.

So it appears that if they overheat a bit, they don't like it. This
might be helpful to others if they find the same thing happening. Vacuum
them down!

I did wonder about a flat battery but that surely wouldn't have stopped
it shutting down properly.

(Incidentally, have you ever seen what they look like on a huge HD
screen? - fantastic!)

Rifty
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Andy - 17 Jan 2008 08:03 GMT
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> I did wonder about a flat battery but that surely wouldn't have stopped
> it shutting down properly.

Oh, it surely can.  All sorts of bizarre sh.t can happen with a flat
PRAM battery, especially if the PMU gets a bit borked.


> (Incidentally, have you ever seen what they look like on a huge HD
> screen? - fantastic!)

Nope, but I'm planning to buy a 24" Acer LCD screen to replace my crappy
old 21" CRT :-)

Glad that it seems to have sorted itself out, anyway.

Cheers,
Andy.
Ben Golding - 17 Jan 2008 01:56 GMT
> > I have a MacMini (OSX.4.11) that has decided it won't turn itself off
> > fully without my pressing the button at the back after it has shut
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> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86181

I think you're right: it sounds like it could be a flat PRAM battery,
plus it's cheap to replace to see whether it fixes the problem.

  Ben.
 
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