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Andrew Beavis - 05 Dec 2007 22:12 GMT
Latest Prices 6/12/2007:

All goods are used unless otherwise stated:
I also buy/accept old gear if you have something (Sydney)
And troubleshoot (Local) Mac & PC problems Tel 0407 235614

> 10.5 Leopard install DVD (retail pkg)  $100
> 10.4 SERVER Tiger (including universal 10.4.11 intel/ppc installer) $400
> Apple G4 tower 800MHz 256mb/40gb/cdrw/10.3.9  computer only $300
> Apple G4 tower 400MHz 256mb/40gb/combo/10.3.9  computer only $150
> Apple G4 eMac 17" 700MHz 256mb/60gb/combo/10.3.9 $100
> Apple G4 iMac 15" 800MHz 768mb/320gb/dvdrw/10.4.11 $350
> Canon D660U USB scanner $50
> Original Apple Airport Card  $100
>Telstra Bigpond SB5100i Cable modem  $100
>CELESTRON C90 Maksutov spotting scope, rubber grip, accessories mint cond.
$300
> Apple iLife '05 edition DVD $30
> PC 1.6GHZ  512ram,40gb hd CPU only  $OLD
> PC 2.8GHZ  768ram,20gb hd computer only  $150
> NVIDIA 6600 PCIexpress video upgrade card 256mb suit G5 dualcore $100
> MiroVideo DC30+ PCI video capture card G4/osx compat $50
> NETGEAR single port router (use with a hub/switch) $40
> NETGEAR 8 port router fvs318  $150
> SCSI external CDR Yamaha 6x, new enclosure $OLD
> Roxio Toast 6 software (in box, 6.1.1 update inc) $50
> imac tray load cdrom $30
> imac slot load modem $30
> Apple DOS card all cables/os8or9  $30
> Epson B-slot Ethernet card (for printers) $30
> Zip Drive 100 external drive SCSI $40
> Zip Drive 100 external drive PARALLEL $40
> ATTO wide scsi PCI card $30

> I have many software books if you are interested $15-20
> I have some mac power supplies, lots of mac parts, hard disks etc if you
are interested

all cash prices, cheers Andrew (02) 9144 7039 or 0407 235614

macguru@ozemail.com.au
http://macguru.com.au/
Andrew Beavis - 09 Dec 2007 22:09 GMT
Here are the revised prices

Latest Prices 10/12/2007:

All goods are used unless otherwise stated:
I also buy/accept old gear if you have something (Sydney)
And troubleshoot (Local) Mac & PC problems Tel 0407 235614

* Apple G4 tower 800MHz 256mb/40gb/cdrw/10.3.9  computer only $250
* Apple G4 tower 400MHz 256mb/40gb/combo/10.3.9  computer only $100
* Apple G4 eMac 17" 700MHz 256mb/60gb/combo/10.3.9 computer only $100
* Apple G4 iMac 15" 800MHz 768mb/320gb/dvdrw/10.4.11 $350
* PC 2.8GHZ  768ram,20gb hd computer only  $100
* 10.5 Leopard install DVD (retail pkg)  $100
* 10.4 SERVER Tiger (including universal 10.4.11 intel/ppc installer) $400
* Sony SCSI external DDS3-9000 tape backup drive  $100
* Canon D660U USB scanner $50
* Original Apple Airport Card  $100
*Telstra Bigpond SB5100i Cable modem  $100
*CELESTRON C90 Maksutov spotting scope, rubber grip, accessories mint cond.
$300
* Apple iLife '05 edition DVD $30
* NVIDIA 6600 PCIexpress video upgrade card 256mb suit G5 dualcore $100
* MiroVideo DC30+ PCI video capture card G4/osx compat $50
* NETGEAR single port router (use with a hub/switch) $40
* NETGEAR 8 port router fvs318  $150
* SCSI internal CDR Yamaha 6x, new enclosure $50
* Roxio Toast 6 software (in box, 6.1.1 update inc) $50
* imac tray load cdrom $30
* imac slot load modem $30
* Apple DOS card all cables/os8or9  $30
* Epson B-slot Ethernet card (for printers) $30
* Zip Drive 100 external drive SCSI $40
* Zip Drive 100 external drive PARALLEL $40
* ATTO wide scsi PCI card $30

* I have many software books if you are interested $15-20
* I have some mac power supplies, lots of mac parts, hard disks etc if you
are interested

all cash prices, cheers Andrew (02) 9144 7039 or 0407 235614

macguru@ozemail.com.au
http://macguru.com.au/
Matt - 10 Dec 2007 01:37 GMT
Use eBay?

Andrew> Here are the revised prices Latest Prices 10/12/2007:

Andrew> All goods are used unless otherwise stated: I also buy/accept
Andrew> old gear if you have something (Sydney) And troubleshoot
Andrew> (Local) Mac & PC problems Tel 0407 235614

Andrew> * Apple G4 tower 800MHz 256mb/40gb/cdrw/10.3.9 computer only
Andrew> $250 * Apple G4 tower 400MHz 256mb/40gb/combo/10.3.9 computer
Andrew> only $100 * Apple G4 eMac 17" 700MHz 256mb/60gb/combo/10.3.9
Andrew> computer only $100 * Apple G4 iMac 15" 800MHz
Andrew> 768mb/320gb/dvdrw/10.4.11 $350 * PC 2.8GHZ 768ram,20gb hd
Andrew> computer only $100 * 10.5 Leopard install DVD (retail pkg)
Andrew> $100 * 10.4 SERVER Tiger (including universal 10.4.11
Andrew> intel/ppc installer) $400 * Sony SCSI external DDS3-9000 tape
Andrew> backup drive $100 * Canon D660U USB scanner $50 * Original
Andrew> Apple Airport Card $100 *Telstra Bigpond SB5100i Cable modem
Andrew> $100 *CELESTRON C90 Maksutov spotting scope, rubber grip,
Andrew> accessories mint cond. $300 * Apple iLife '05 edition DVD $30
Andrew> * NVIDIA 6600 PCIexpress video upgrade card 256mb suit G5
Andrew> dualcore $100 * MiroVideo DC30+ PCI video capture card G4/osx
Andrew> compat $50 * NETGEAR single port router (use with a
Andrew> hub/switch) $40 * NETGEAR 8 port router fvs318 $150 * SCSI
Andrew> internal CDR Yamaha 6x, new enclosure $50 * Roxio Toast 6
Andrew> software (in box, 6.1.1 update inc) $50 * imac tray load cdrom
Andrew> $30 * imac slot load modem $30 * Apple DOS card all
Andrew> cables/os8or9 $30 * Epson B-slot Ethernet card (for printers)
Andrew> $30 * Zip Drive 100 external drive SCSI $40 * Zip Drive 100
Andrew> external drive PARALLEL $40 * ATTO wide scsi PCI card $30

Andrew> * I have many software books if you are interested $15-20 * I
Andrew> have some mac power supplies, lots of mac parts, hard disks
Andrew> etc if you are interested

Andrew> all cash prices, cheers Andrew (02) 9144 7039 or 0407 235614

Andrew> macguru@ozemail.com.au http://macguru.com.au/
Chris Baird - 11 Dec 2007 12:15 GMT
Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> Use eBay?

Most people with any sense would. "Oh, he constantly posts ads to a
discussion newgroup, and doesn't stop when the rest of the group asks
him too. Yup, he's legit. Those high prices must be for a good reason,
too."

--
Chris
David - 11 Dec 2007 23:03 GMT
> Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --
> Chris

I just bought some gear from him - no sweat, quick delivery, he's OK

David
Steve Ball - 12 Dec 2007 00:14 GMT
David:

>> Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
>>> Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> David

Same here.
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Steve  = : ^ )

Orpheus - 12 Dec 2007 22:48 GMT
> Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> him too. Yup, he's legit. Those high prices must be for a good reason,
> too."

Perhaps he would stop if the rest of the group asked him to, but I think
it's just you.

Posting stuff for sale locally is fine by me.
Emma Grey - 13 Dec 2007 11:55 GMT
> > Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Posting stuff for sale locally is fine by me.

It's interesting that these people who presume to be speaking "for the
rest of the group" are insufficiently acquainted with this long-running
debate to realise how many of us have repeatedly defended the rights of
a genuine Mac-head to offer stuff for sale. This group is - fortunately
­ not a frequent target for spam, is pretty light on traffic, and hence
there can be no reason beyond personal pettyness to object to Andrew's
monthy list of gear. For myself, I find only the objections
objectionable.

But Usenet's a free forum, and if folks want to display the narrowness
of their minds, and expose their foolish expectations that Usenet will
feature only posts that interest them - well, Usenet's a free forum ...

Emma
Rifty - 13 Dec 2007 12:59 GMT
> > > Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > > > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Emma

Amen.... or should that be "A-woman"?! Well said.

Lighten up, fellas. If this group was plastered with stuff for sale, you
would have a point. It's not. One day you just might see for sale
something here at a fair price that you desperately need in a hurry.

Rifty

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Andy - 13 Dec 2007 20:17 GMT
> > > > Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > > > > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Rifty

Agreed.  It's not exactly hard to spot the posts in question and ignore
them (especially considering the lack of traffic here).

Andy.
Chris Baird - 14 Dec 2007 05:19 GMT
>> It's interesting that these people who presume to be speaking "for
>> the rest of the group" are insufficiently acquainted with this
>> long-running debate

I've watched Andrew get flamed for trying to sell overpriced junk to
the clueless for what must be 10 years. In all that time, you've been
the one and only person who has consistently defended his right to use
this small and dying forum for his benefit.

(..and note that I wasn't the person initially complaining this time..)

>> This group is - fortunately – not a frequent target for spam [..]

You're obviously on a filtered feed.

Checking the last ~700 messages on my newsserver for a.c.mac, about
25% are FS posts-- over 5-10 times that of the other (non-dead, filtered)
aus.computers.* newsgroups. It's also about the least frequently used
for discussion. I wonder why..

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Andy - 14 Dec 2007 09:02 GMT
> Checking the last ~700 messages on my newsserver for a.c.mac, about
> 25% are FS posts-- over 5-10 times that of the other (non-dead, filtered)
> aus.computers.* newsgroups. It's also about the least frequently used
> for discussion. I wonder why..

Possibly because the comp.sys.mac.* groups are so much better for
getting a quick response?

Andy.
Emma Grey - 14 Dec 2007 13:08 GMT
> >> It's interesting that these people who presume to be speaking "for
> >> the rest of the group" are insufficiently acquainted with this
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> aus.computers.* newsgroups. It's also about the least frequently used
> for discussion. I wonder why..

If you look at just this one thread you'll find a number of people
speaking out against your intolerance. If you know about filtering,
then why aren't you filtering what you don't want to read? It's simple
enough, and after the 10 years you claim to have been around it's odd
you haven't managed to do it.

And if you feel this forum is dying, why don't you launch an
interesting (and positive) discussion point, and not revive this sad
bickering.

Emma
Mike Dee - 15 Dec 2007 11:13 GMT
> >> It's interesting that these people who presume to be speaking "for
> >> the rest of the group" are insufficiently acquainted with this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the one and only person who has consistently defended his right to use
> this small and dying forum for his benefit.

I resent that remark. I too, have *always* defended Andrews right to
flog his wares in this NG.

Learn to use KFs FFS.

> (..and note that I wasn't the person initially complaining this time..)
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> aus.computers.* newsgroups. It's also about the least frequently used
> for discussion. I wonder why..

And checking the past 20 odd *years* worth of posts made to ACM, only 18
posts are yours, a good proportion of which are complaining about
Andrew. So what stupid point are you trying to make here?

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Chris Baird - 16 Dec 2007 08:59 GMT
> Learn to use KFs FFS.

Of course I do-- it's generally only the follow-ups from people asking
what rational reason he has for not using eBay I get to see.

> And checking the past 20 odd *years* worth of posts made to ACM,
> only 18 posts are yours, a good proportion of which are complaining
> about Andrew.

An incredible bit of detective work and fact-finding there. You used
Google Groups, which honours the X-No-Archive flag.

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C,,

Orpheus - 16 Dec 2007 13:18 GMT
>  > Learn to use KFs FFS.
>
> Of course I do-- it's generally only the follow-ups from people asking
> what rational reason he has for not using eBay I get to see.

Good point, Chris.

Life's pretty tough sometimes, eh...?
Emma Grey - 14 Dec 2007 13:11 GMT
> > > > Matt <matth@brz.org.au>:
> > > > > Use eBay?
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Rifty

Thanks for joining in, Rifty. If there's one thing I can't tolerate,
it's intolerance :-)

All the best to you and yours for the holidoze.

Emma
Rifty - 14 Dec 2007 21:17 GMT
> Thanks for joining in, Rifty. If there's one thing I can't tolerate,
> it's intolerance :-)

Me too!  Just can't stand it!  :) But I also do understand the annoyance
of people with what they feel is spam.

I've been in newsgroups online for nearly 20 years now (starting when I
had a 300 baud modem and each character came onscreen about as fast as
you could type.)  Invariably, Mac users as a group are incredibly
helpful people and it is rare that I haven't got useful assistance from
someone over almost that long with aus.computers.mac.
 
> All the best to you and yours for the holidoze.
>
> Emma

Compliments of the season to all in this group. Now we can have a long
irrelevant discussion as to whether religion should be brought into a
Mac group. But then owning a Mac is a bit like a religion, isn't it? And
as for Christmas hey, let's keep religion out of Christmas I say!  :)

Cheers to all,

Rifty.

Serious question.....  I have a MacPro in a big fat box which I have
never looked at closely except to plug things into various ports. It has
space for 3 more internal SATA drives. If I bought one of these (and I
gather there are cheaper alternatives to Apple ones) how hard is it to
get into the box and install it? I am a real chicken at attepting to
open computers still under warranty but these are surely designed to be
opened and things dropped into spaces. Does anyone do this sort of thing
routinely?
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David - 15 Dec 2007 00:02 GMT
> Serious question.....  I have a MacPro in a big fat box which I have
> never looked at closely except to plug things into various ports. It has
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> opened and things dropped into spaces. Does anyone do this sort of thing
> routinely?

Hi Rifty

Apple often supplies instructions on how to upgrade memory for their
gear - might be worthwhile checking the Apple site or googling for
upgrade memory for MacPro

If found it will tell you how to open the box, and more relevently if it
is on the Apple site then there should be no problems with your
guarantee for opening the box

Installing HDs is a cinch 4 screws and thats it, apart from the cables.  
When you look where the other HD cables cme from you should be able to
see if an adaptor is needed, or if there is a spare socket to plug your
new HD into

I haven't installed any SATA drives, but have done lots of IDE drives in
both Macs and Window boxes

cheers - and all the best for a Merry and Safe Christmas to all

David
Andrew Beavis - 15 Dec 2007 03:34 GMT
I have a Mac Pro and adding drives is dead easy. I use Seagate 7200.10 or
7200.11 drives at the moment. I have 3 of the 4 bays filled with about 1.2
TB total and the fans just tick over. I found when I filled the 4th bay the
fan noise increased a little. The 2 non-boot drives sleep a lot - one is for
disk images & the other for tv shows .  Some hard drives can be a little
noisy, or set up a hum in the case. If I don't like one I use it as an
external mirror in a firewire case instead, so all internals are backed up
at least once ......

Andrew

On 15/12/07 11:02 AM, in article
postings-C58F0F.11020615122007@news.ceinternet.com.au, "David"
<postings@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com> wrote:

>> Serious question.....  I have a MacPro in a big fat box which I have
>> never looked at closely except to plug things into various ports. It has
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> David
Emma Grey - 15 Dec 2007 13:00 GMT
> > Thanks for joining in, Rifty. If there's one thing I can't tolerate,
> > it's intolerance :-)
>
> Me too!  Just can't stand it!  :) But I also do understand the annoyance
> of people with what they feel is spam.

Yes, but spam is unrelated garbage. Andrew's posts are not unrelated,
and due to his unfailing regularity, we all know where we can buy [!] a
version of Filemaker Pro 4! Like with Radio National's summer programs,
we know the words off by heart! It's harmless, obvious and avoidable,
and if these complaining dudes are as established as they claim, they
ought to know how to kill-filter posts. And the posts are clearly
labelled; they don't have to read them!

> I've been in newsgroups online for nearly 20 years now (starting when I
> had a 300 baud modem and each character came onscreen about as fast as
> you could type.)  Invariably, Mac users as a group are incredibly
> helpful people and it is rare that I haven't got useful assistance from
> someone over almost that long with aus.computers.mac.

Can't quite match you there! But yes, our mac group is generally
friendly, and I - for one - would like to keep it that way.

>  
> > All the best to you and yours for the holidoze.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Rifty.

No problem! It's a Nordic winter festival anyway, hijacked by the
Christians and rebadged - assimilated? I don't think I dare go to
Woolies for while though; if I hear any more Chrimboid muzak I shall
... be indelicate!

> Serious question.....  I have a MacPro in a big fat box which I have
> never looked at closely except to plug things into various ports. It has
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> opened and things dropped into spaces. Does anyone do this sort of thing
> routinely?

Yes. It's unbelievably easy. Nothing like cracking the case on an SE/30
which was my Rubicon. As far as my knowledge goes, it's even easier on
your flagship than my G4 tower. Drives have two connectors - power and
data - and the plugs are moulded in such a way you CANNOT go wrong. If
you want to be cautious, make sure you discharge any static from your
body by first touching the power supply casing, don't touch anything
you don't need to, and restrain the urge to remove dust. Tiptoe in and
tiptoe out, and you'll be fine.

Cheers Rifty.
David - 14 Dec 2007 06:47 GMT
> Perhaps he would stop if the rest of the group asked him to, but I think
> it's just you.
>
> Posting stuff for sale locally is fine by me.

One has to wonder about guys that whinge about what others posters do or
do not do.  We are all free to choose whether or not we read any
particular post, and it is very easy to simply ignore any particular
post(s).

In the case of Andrew I have seen his ads placed in this group every so
often for the past few years or so.  And up until recently I didn't
bother reading them as there wasn't anything I needed.

However when the need for an item arose it was damn handy to have a
local contact, and even better, he had just what I needed, at a fair
price.  Item was as described, price for the item and postage was as
agreed, and it was delivered as quickly as reasonably possible.  

So, now I have what I need I will go back to simply bypassing his adds -
no biggy, no problem for me, but perhaps there is someone out there who
just happens to need an item he has for sale, and now knows that he is
not a rip off merchant or dodgy seller.

So, I say leave him alone and expend your efforts on worrying about
something important like global warming or whales or whatever.

David - who believes in live and let live
Chris Baird - 14 Dec 2007 08:45 GMT
> David - who believes in live and let live

Do you know how much spam email you'd get each day if it wasn't for
the filters that people like myself have to maintain? :/
Mike Dee - 15 Dec 2007 11:16 GMT
>  > David - who believes in live and let live
>
> Do you know how much spam email you'd get each day if it wasn't for
> the filters that people like myself have to maintain? :/

If it bothers you so much, learn to use KFs when reading this group.

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Andrew Beavis - 10 Dec 2007 03:27 GMT
This is the best forum to help local users, and saves a lot of time, but if
it works for you that's great.

On 10/12/07 9:09 AM, in article C382B2D5.4600%macguru@ozemail.com.au,

> Here are the revised prices
>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> macguru@ozemail.com.au
> http://macguru.com.au/
 
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