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Mac Forum / Country Specific / Australian Mac Group / December 2006Copying DVDs in Toast.
Hi all, Just got a copy of Toast 6 with the plan to copy some of my DVD collection to take away on hols rather than risk loosing the originals. I have a Pioneer 111d in a 400mhz G4 running 10.3.9. The trouble seems to be that I can't copy the DVDs, it's a matter of space, anything over the 4.7 gig is out and Toast won't play ball. And all these are up t 9 gig on the DVD. I thought the DVD burner was a dual layer, burner, perhaps I was mistaken there. If it means stripping the extras and leaving just the movie on the copy, so be it. but how do I do this? Or is there another app out there that I can use. T.I.A. folks. Wayne > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Or is there another app out there that I can use. Mac the Ripper. It's freeware, and offers you a number of options: Full Disk Extraction, Main Title only ... http://www.mactheripper.org/ > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://www.mactheripper.org/ G'day JC, Mac The Ripper is the first part of your solution ... that will let you backup DVD's (only the ones that you own, of course ;) by ripping them to your hard drive sans copy protection. Now, even though your burner is dual layer - to burn DVDs greater than 4.4 GB, you'll need dual layer blank discs. They are more expensive than the single layer blanks that are commonly available. Most commercial DVDs contain between 6 to 8 GB of data. You need a program like DVD2oneX to compress this down to 4.3. Then you can burn them using Toast. Do a google, do dome research - it's not very complicated, but can be time and hard disc space consuming. Hope this helps, Mikey Mike. > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Wayne I assume you are using dual layer blanks disks? The 111d is a dual layer burner but you have to put in dual layer disks. The other problem may be you have not toggled the toast 6 disk indicator in the bottom right - its not very smart and has to be manually changed to cd, dvd or DVD DL. BTW toast will not burn copy-protected DVDs anyway. Nigel guide "How to remove protection from DVD" http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/guides/slysoft/remove-css-protection-and-region-sett ings-from-DVD.htm guide "How to copy DVD to DVD, DVD9 to one DVD5" http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/guides/slysoft/Copy-DVD-to-DVD-copy-DVD9-to-DVD5.htm Konandoil said: > guide "How to remove protection from DVD" > http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/guides/slysoft/remove-css-protection-and-region-se > ttings-from-DVD.htm This appears to be a PC-only programme which bypasses the copy protection on copyright DVD's. This is illegal. Steve = : ^ ) Do you know a better way? :))) It works for me perfectly! )) > Do you know a better way? :))) A better way of what? Stealing intellectual property? Steve = : ^ | > > Do you know a better way? :))) > > A better way of what? Stealing intellectual property? > > Steve = : ^ | There are legitimate reasons for needing to bypass either copy protection or zoning on DVDs in Australia. For example, newsagents sell StarTrek, The Next Generation DVDs with a magazine as a series. The publisher identified #53 as having having the wrong episode on it. They issued a replacement DVD with a later episode. Unfortunately, the replacement DVD is Zone 2, since it is the original UK replacement, not one specially done for Australia. Everyone involved seems to be attempting to do the right thing, but the legitimate purchaser is still stuck with a product that is unsuitable for its purpose, namely playing on a DVD player.  Signaturehttp://www.ericlindsay.com Eric Lindsay said: >>> Do you know a better way? :))) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > legitimate purchaser is still stuck with a product that is unsuitable > for its purpose, namely playing on a DVD player. Point taken but this is a _very_ unusual example, and not why the OP wanted to burn copies of DVDs. Steve = : ^ ) > There are legitimate reasons for needing to bypass either copy > protection or zoning on DVDs in Australia. Agreed - my one is the various DVDs that my 3yr old son scratches up, so I have to keep making him a fresh copy and keep the original in safe keeping. However, the problem here is that under the TPM (technical protection measures) provisions of copyright law, this is still technically illegal. Hey, but up until last week, so was using my iPod, and my VCR.. They've fixed a few of these things, but not the TPM stuff - you can, however, buy a zone-free DVD player legally now, so copying DVDs to remove Zone protection may be viewed more dimly in future. See the Attorney General's FAQ at: <http://www.ag.gov.au/agd/WWW/MinisterRuddockHome.nsf/Page/RWPC7B0742318 EF6A58CA25723B008145FC> DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer, just an interested observer. Ken Signature"So, what you are saying, is you don't know how to apply the plain text variation of "blink" and "flaming faggot puce" to your postings to add the clarity they otherwise totally lack?" - Lon Stowell empathises with the need for emphasis on AFU Thanks Ken that was interesting information. I guess when the new Blue Ray and HD-DVD formats come in with their tougher protection schemes we will be back to not being able to backup up our legally brought copies. Nigel On 14/12/06 2:28 PM, in article 1hqc7rm.slmxs82nizw4N%ken@onramp.com.au, >> There are legitimate reasons for needing to bypass either copy >> protection or zoning on DVDs in Australia. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Ken > > There are legitimate reasons for needing to bypass either copy > > protection or zoning on DVDs in Australia. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > measures) provisions of copyright law, this is still technically > illegal. Not sure how you see it as merely technically illegal. It seems to be illegal, full stop. If the ARIA (Australian variant of the RIAA) were using the same heavy handed tactics as RIAA, all manner of people could be hauled before the courts. So for that matter is copying SACD and DVD-A audio, or the copy protected music sold as CDs. However if a store sells one of these as a CD, you can return it to the store, and you can probably go them for false advertising since they are not RedBook CDs and can't carry a CD sticker. > Hey, but up until last week, so was using my iPod, and my VCR.. Well, technically you could have previously used your iPod with songs bought from the iTunes Store, or unprotected MP3 bought from other legitimate stores, just not with anything from your CD collection. > They've fixed a few of these things, but not the TPM stuff - you can, > however, buy a zone-free DVD player legally now, so copying DVDs to > remove Zone protection may be viewed more dimly in future. I think it is clearly illegal to remove zoning from a DVD. > See the Attorney General's FAQ at: > > <http://www.ag.gov.au/agd/WWW/MinisterRuddockHome.nsf/Page/RWPC7B0742318 > EF6A58CA25723B008145FC> > > DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer, just an interested observer. Me neither. Although I did put a complaining submission in to the enquiry on TPM. It is probably worthwhile to continue to complain about the problem to your local Federal member, just so they know they still haven't got it right. I appear to have a middle finger upraised to ARIA, TPM and the law. Signaturehttp://www.ericlindsay.com Did you know that VLC will play all region DVDs on your computer without resetting the hardware region code, as you would need to do with apple dvd player ? BTW now that we have a laptop (a pc actually) with video out connected to the TV, we watch all our dvds and downloaded tv episodes this way. Actually, the XVID resolution suits a CRT TV pretty well. I saw a BluRay dvd on a 1366x768 lcd the other day & that looked v nice. Most of the blu ray titles were pretty ordinary though ! Cheers andrew On 14/12/06 7:31 AM, in article NOwebmasterSPAM-ABA6A3.06315814122006@freenews.iinet.net.au, "Eric Lindsay" <NOwebmasterSPAM@ericlindsay.com> wrote: >>> Do you know a better way? :))) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > legitimate purchaser is still stuck with a product that is unsuitable > for its purpose, namely playing on a DVD player. > Did you know that VLC will play all region DVDs on your computer without > resetting the hardware region code, as you would need to do with apple dvd > player ? Yes, VLC is my default player for DVD. I have a "real" stand alone DVD player, but it fails to play about half of all commercial DVDs I put in it, or gets half way through and fails on the layer transition. If I bother to get a replacement DVD player, I must make sure it is zone free. > BTW now that we have a laptop (a pc actually) with video out connected to > the TV, we watch all our dvds and downloaded tv episodes this way. Actually, > the XVID resolution suits a CRT TV pretty well. I dumped my TV at the start of the year. Now I use my 24 inch (1920 x 1200) Dell monitor for all media. I feed it TV on composite from an old VCR (since that has a tuner), and the DVD player feeds it via component. I reserve VGA and DVI for my computers. > I saw a BluRay dvd on a 1366x768 lcd the other day & that looked v nice. > Most of the blu ray titles were pretty ordinary though ! The local RetraVision finally had a BlueRay sampler with HD running on 1366x768 and even on a couple of 1920x1080 LCD and plasma. It wasn't all that long ago that there were "HD Ready" signs on plasma that could only manage 480 lines. What a con job HD TV has been! Signaturehttp://www.ericlindsay.com Hi again folks Well this has been an education for me. I love helping to open healthy debate. : ) For the record. it's all about backing up copies for me to take away on hols. and for the daughter to take to boarding school. The little lass took a heap of my DVDs the last term expressly against my wishes, I believe it's to do with selective memory thse days. Nonetheless, I'm not going to fork out squillions to replace them or buy copies when I already own originals. And as for my iPod, my music collection is on mine and if there's a problem with that, what can I say? As it is written, "The law is an a.s!". BTW. I have no objection about piracy laws. I agree that is is illegal and the peopele seling pirated copies are just trying to turn a buck off someone else's hard work. If anything, my one-time experience has taught me that the quality is so bad it's not worth wasting the money. I once bought a heap of ones copied from a friend after their trip to Bali. I own legitimate copies of all of them now simply because I wanted the quality and the extras that come as part of them. Most of my DVDs come from video shop sales, the quality is good if you're careful to avoid scratched copies. And it's way cheaper getting later releases this way than paying full price. But I've been known to do that too. So, thanks for all the help guys. This has always been a great NG to turn to in time of need. And I'm even up to OSX now. What can I say? Cheers, Wayne. > Konandoil said: > >> guide "How to remove protection from DVD" http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/guides/slysoft/remove-css-protection-and-region-s>> e >> ttings-from-DVD.htm > > This appears to be a PC-only programme which bypasses the copy protection on > copyright DVD's. This is illegal. > > Steve = : ^ ) Fro information's sake I suspect if you googled "ripper mac and dvd" you might find a program that will do as you suggest. Not that I am endorsing or encouraging anything illegal. Nigel |
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