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Problem with right click in Tiger

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step_andy - 15 Sep 2005 11:00 GMT
Hi,
I installed Tiger 10.4.2 on iMac 400. All is reasonably fine with exception
to mouse behaviour.
I have to accounts, mine with Admin and 2nd with restricted usage and
access, set up for my kid.
I have USB MS 2 button mouse hooked up to the iMac. The mouse behaves as
expected in admin account with right click doing what is supposed to do,
however, in 2nd user account, right click invokes dashboard.
I looked under mouse settings in system preferences without any luck.

Where and how do change the action for 2nd button?

andy
Peter McCallum - 15 Sep 2005 14:50 GMT
> Hi,
> I installed Tiger 10.4.2 on iMac 400. All is reasonably fine with exception
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> andy

did  you try dashboard prefs?

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step_andy - 16 Sep 2005 22:37 GMT
>> Hi,
>> I installed Tiger 10.4.2 on iMac 400. All is reasonably fine with exception
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> did  you try dashboard prefs?
Thanks, this fixed the issue.
andy
Warmingup - 15 Sep 2005 21:08 GMT
Proof positive that Macs really only can cope with the standard ham fisted
one button mouse that the Apple company steadfastly says is best....Throw
that multi-button scrolled wheel equipped heretic hardware away...If God had
have wanted us to use such a device he would have given us a numerous
tactile fingers and a prehensile thumb rather than the hooves that the Mac
mouse was designed for!

Warmingup

> Hi,
> I installed Tiger 10.4.2 on iMac 400. All is reasonably fine with
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> andy
Peter McCallum - 15 Sep 2005 23:26 GMT
> Proof positive that Macs really only can cope with the standard ham fisted
> one button mouse that the Apple company steadfastly says is best....Throw
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Warmingup

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/

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Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

BandMassa - 21 Sep 2005 03:15 GMT
Warmingup is a dick (yeh, I know, I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I
can't resist calling things like they are) and like Peter McCallum
spoke of, I reckon it'd be a Dashboard preference setting.

My eMac running Tiger merrily works as it should with a $12 generic 2
button USB mouse, no beats skipped whatsoever. Left-click, right-click,
scrolling, all work as one would expect with no added drivers required
to achieve this.
Bill Robbins - 22 Sep 2005 00:43 GMT
> My eMac running Tiger merrily works as it should with a $12 generic 2
> button USB mouse, no beats skipped whatsoever. Left-click, right-click,
> scrolling, all work as one would expect with no added drivers required
> to achieve this.

Drivers can add the ability to program those buttons for functions one
would not expect.  Generally, though, OS X has heaps built in to it.  A
few weeks ago I installed a UPS carefully chosen for compatibility with
Macs so that I can have it do a civilised shut down if I'm not around
when the power goes off, meaning it included the compatible software.  I
also paid a premium price for this one.  When I plugged it in, I
discovered I had wasted my money because the unit appear BY NAME in the
Energy Saver preference panel BEFORE installing the third party
software.  If fact turns out OS X's facility offers better control than
the other.  Go figure.  I could have done with a cheaper Windows only
unit and thrown away the software.
step_andy - 22 Sep 2005 02:41 GMT
> Drivers can add the ability to program those buttons for functions one
> would not expect.  Generally, though, OS X has heaps built in to it.  A
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the other.  Go figure.  I could have done with a cheaper Windows only
> unit and thrown away the software.

Speaking about UPS, any good ones and which ones to avoid?
Cheers
Andy
Bill Robbins - 25 Sep 2005 22:21 GMT
> > Drivers can add the ability to program those buttons for functions one
> > would not expect.  Generally, though, OS X has heaps built in to it.  A
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Cheers
> Andy

My MGE has not yet thrown up any problems.  It has sailed through a
couple of very brief power outages, but none long enough to test the
shutdown feature.  It has three power back up power points, one power
spike only power point and a phone line spike plug.  I believe the APC
units are also highly regarded.  For the cheaper PC units, I'd talk to a
reputable small business computer repair technician.  The see all kinds
of dramas, and would have some idea of what's good and what's not.  If
they supply UPSes to their customers, they can't afford to flog
unreliable units as it would come back on their own reputations.
Jason - 22 Sep 2005 07:31 GMT
> > My eMac running Tiger merrily works as it should with a $12 generic 2
> > button USB mouse, no beats skipped whatsoever. Left-click, right-click,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> the other.  Go figure.  I could have done with a cheaper Windows only
> unit and thrown away the software.

Which UPS did you buy?

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Bill Robbins - 25 Sep 2005 22:14 GMT
> Which UPS did you buy?

MGE Pulsar ellipse 500.  The other brand (I know of) which offers Mac
support is the better known APC.  It just seemed that the MGE was a bit
better value.  What I hadn't banked on is that the plugs on the back of
the unit sold here are all the "international" configuration (like those
on the back of the PC).  The unit SHOULD come with a power cable capable
of connecting to a standard Aussie power point, and two cables with
international plugs on BOTH ends.  Unless you have a PC you can't
connect to anything.  The cables with usable plugs cost over $15 each.  
I purchased my MGE from Streetwise Software (who also sell the APC) in
Hawthorn, Vic on the basis of information on their web site which does
not mention this little problem.  I complained, they appologized and
provided me two cables at no extra cost, and I am told have corrected
their web site.  I purchased two female Aussie plugs (less than $4 at
Dick Smith), cut off the international plugs on the two cables I already
had and put the Aussie plugs on, and so I now have access to all the UPS
plugs, but with some extra cable/wire spagetti.  I believe the APC unit
does come with Aussie power points directly on the unit.  This story had
a happy ending, but be warned.  I highly recommend Streetwise for their
service, and their website is a good place to start for comparison of
the two units.  However as mentioned I would investigate a cheaper unit
not overtly offering Mac support.  As long as it can be connected via a
USB port on the computer, you should get the civilised shutdown feature
anyway.  Their web address:
http://www.streetwise.com.au/index.php?cPath=121_170
Jeßus - 23 Sep 2005 11:42 GMT
> Proof positive that Macs really only can cope with the standard ham fisted
> one button mouse that the Apple company steadfastly says is best....Throw
> that multi-button scrolled wheel equipped heretic hardware away...If God had
> have wanted us to use such a device he would have given us a numerous
> tactile fingers and a prehensile thumb rather than the hooves that the Mac
> mouse was designed for!

Not being able to right-click is like having an arm amputated.
No thanks!

>> Hi,
>> I installed Tiger 10.4.2 on iMac 400. All is reasonably fine with
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> andy
>>
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