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Mac Forum / Country Specific / Australian Mac Group / August 2005G4 woes with Tiger
With a 867 G4, I installed Tiger and a new Seagate 120GB drive at same time. Before then I had an old Maxtor HD which never had troubles. Have had troubles ever since installing the Seagate (and Tiger). System not found. System loads part way thro then freezes. Several shutdowns and restarts seem to fix whatever it is. Have repaired disk, rebuilt directory and permissions. All to no avail. Have even zapped PRAM. Once system starts, everything works fine. Have re-installed all software to be OS 10.4 compatible. Have downloaded all updates from Apple. Frustration reigns. Any ideas most welcome. (Other than never turn it off, and re-install the old Maxtor) Have tried those. But have to turn it off sometime. > With a 867 G4, I installed Tiger and a new Seagate 120GB drive at same > time. Before then I had an old Maxtor HD which never had troubles. Have [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > off, and re-install the old Maxtor) Have tried those. But have to turn > it off sometime. Some thoughts that might help. So from your last comment I take it you have put Tiger on the old Maxtor drive and it is OK? It sounds more like a hard drive installation issue or maybe some RAM went bad in the process (knocked or whatever). If you have diskwarrior start from that and see what it says re your disk. Also use disk repair on the Tiger CD (starting from that CD). That will take care of any disk directory structure or bad blocks etc but it wont fix any bigger disk hardware issues. Can you not have both the disks installed at once perhaps? Nigel Brisbane > > With a 867 G4, I installed Tiger and a new Seagate 120GB drive at same > > time. Before then I had an old Maxtor HD which never had troubles. Have [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Nigel > Brisbane I did just add a new stick of RAM recently. Will check. I did not put Tiger on the maxtor. The Tiger install disk refused to do it saying that failure was expected for that drive. is this a sales gimmick ? > I did just add a new stick of RAM recently. Will check. I did not put > Tiger on the maxtor. The Tiger install disk refused to do it saying that > failure was expected for that drive. is this a sales gimmick ? Ah yes, important details you left out of your original post. The RAM could be a problem. And no, it's not a sales gimmick, if the tiger installer is getting errors when it checks the target hdd, then it's normal to reject it. My suggestion would be to find someone you know with experience in installing hdds and memory, and get them to do it properly.  Signature"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who Think Different" - with apologies to Nietzsche Is the new Seagate the only hard disk in the system? Did you set the HD's jumper to CableSelect or to Master? My 800 G4 (Quicksilver) wants the disk set to master but my other G4 (Mirror Drive Door) wants it set to Cable Select - check the G4's user manual. Paul > With a 867 G4, I installed Tiger and a new Seagate 120GB drive at same > time. Before then I had an old Maxtor HD which never had troubles. Have [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > off, and re-install the old Maxtor) Have tried those. But have to turn > it off sometime. RAM and Tiger were originaly installed by an authorised Apple serviceman. Seagate is the only disk. Seagate US advised to set jumper in master position. In article <43140248$0$22641$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.c om.au>, > Is the new Seagate the only hard disk in the system? Did you set the HD's > jumper to CableSelect or to Master? My 800 G4 (Quicksilver) wants the disk [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > off, and re-install the old Maxtor) Have tried those. But have to turn > > it off sometime. > RAM and Tiger were originaly installed by an authorised Apple > serviceman. Seagate is the only disk. Seagate US advised to set jumper > in master position. You said that you installed Tiger onto the new seagate hdd? Time to take the G4 back to someone who does this for a living. Signature"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who Think Different" - with apologies to Nietzsche When the Seagate was first installed the Apple tech set it up. It ran three days and then failed. I had big job to do so he told me to put the Maxtor back in. The G4 then went OK for a week. I then put the Seagate back in under his instruction, and it failed again. That was what I meant by "I installed..". The tech does not believe there is anything wrong with the drive. Just something in my software. Next move is to ignore what Seagate said about the master jumper position and try the cable select position. No clues from G4 manual yet. I thought I had it made after downloading the latest Safari 2.0.1 which optimised the system and required a restart. Unusual. But no go. And thanks to all for help. I will not be beaten by a mere machine. > > RAM and Tiger were originaly installed by an authorised Apple > > serviceman. Seagate is the only disk. Seagate US advised to set jumper [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Time to take the G4 back to someone who does this for a living. > When the Seagate was first installed the Apple tech set it up. It ran > three days and then failed. I had big job to do so he told me to put the > Maxtor back in. The G4 then went OK for a week. I then put the Seagate > back in under his instruction, and it failed again. That was what I > meant by "I installed..". The tech does not believe there is anything > wrong with the drive. Just something in my software. Right, so is this tech from a regular apple store? That really is an attrocious attitude to take towards your problem. 3 days into use and it fails, he should have fixed it on his dime... > Next move is to ignore what Seagate said about the master jumper > position and try the cable select position. No clues from G4 manual yet. > I thought I had it made after downloading the latest Safari 2.0.1 which > optimised the system and required a restart. Unusual. But no go. This is why I buy my hdds from well-regarded PC dealers that do a decent volume in hdds, so I'm not getting something that's been sitting on a shelf in the back room for 3 months until the apple dealer can flog it off onto someone... If a hard drive is stuffing up 3 days into use, it should have been replaced with a new one on the spot. Signature"Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie." -- Dennis Miller |
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