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Stephen Denney - 20 Aug 2005 19:33 GMT
I am considering buying a Mini Mac, mainly because I am tired of dealing
with all the spyware and worm viruses that come to my PC computer. But I
have a few questions:

- Can I use a keyboard from my old Mac SE computer (1988 model) with the
Mac Mini; also is there a way I could transfer the files I have on the
hard drive of the Mac SE and also the floppy disks into the Mac Mini?
Could I run software originally made for the Mac SE, such as Microsoft
Word, on the Mac Mini?

- Would the CD-RW drive of the Mac Mini recognize CD-RWs I used for
backing up my PC, and if so, could the Mac Mini convert those files,
including for Eudora from the PC?

- At the library whee I work, they have a room full of I-Mac and Dell
computers. For some reason the I-Mac cannot scan in multipage documents
properly as it treats each page as a PDF file, and as a single document.
Is this just a problem they have at the library because they haven't
formatted the computers properly, or is this a general problem with the
Mac computers? I might be scanning alot of old newsletters and am just
interested in the text going in as multipage documents, I don't care about
the pictures.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

 - Steve Denney
Steve B. - 20 Aug 2005 23:29 GMT
Stephen Denney said:

> I am considering buying a Mini Mac,

That's "Mac Mini"

> mainly because I am tired of dealing
> with all the spyware and worm viruses that come to my PC computer. But I
> have a few questions:
>
> - Can I use a keyboard from my old Mac SE computer (1988 model) with the
> Mac Mini;

No. Apple computers now use USB keyboards. Your Mac SE uses the Apple
Desktop Bus for its.

> also is there a way I could transfer the files I have on the
> hard drive of the Mac SE and also the floppy disks into the Mac Mini?

I don't suppose your SE has an Ethernet card in the expansion slot? The SE
has SCSI and you should be able to find a SCSI CD burner for little money on
eBay.

> Could I run software originally made for the Mac SE, such as Microsoft
> Word, on the Mac Mini?

The Mac Mini comes wit OS X installed. legacy, OS 9 applications can be run
in "Classic" mode - which emulates OS 9.2.2 inside OS X, but your SE
probably runs some version of OS 7 or 8 and I don't know if an old version
of Word would run even in classic mode. Once you get into OS X you won't
want to visit Classic-land so, if at all possible you'll want to invest in
OS X software. The Mini comes with a reasonable text editing programme.

> - Would the CD-RW drive of the Mac Mini recognize CD-RWs I used for
> backing up my PC,

It should.

> and if so, could the Mac Mini convert those files,
> including for Eudora from the PC?

It's up to Eudora whether it recognizes files from the PC version of the
programme (I didn't know there was one) but, for example, MS office uses the
same files on both platforms; no conversion necessary.

> - At the library whee I work, they have a room full of I-Mac and Dell
> computers. For some reason the I-Mac cannot scan in multipage documents
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> interested in the text going in as multipage documents, I don't care about
> the pictures.

Don't know about this but I'd be really surprised if there's no Mac software
to do what you want.

Steve  = : ^ )
Artoi - 20 Aug 2005 23:59 GMT
> Stephen Denney said:

> > also is there a way I could transfer the files I have on the
> > hard drive of the Mac SE and also the floppy disks into the Mac Mini?
>
> I don't suppose your SE has an Ethernet card in the expansion slot? The SE
> has SCSI and you should be able to find a SCSI CD burner for little money on
> eBay.

The other common solution is to email those files to yourself.

--
Robert Atkins - 22 Aug 2005 02:30 GMT
> Stephen Denney said:
>> I am considering buying a Mini Mac,
>
> That's "Mac Mini"

Actually it's a "Mac mini", but who's counting :-).

[Reading MS Word files]

> OS X software. The Mini comes with a reasonable text editing programme.

... called "TextEdit", which has a red hot go at reading MS Word files
and does pretty well most of the time. The formatting might be a bit
wonky but as long as the Word files aren't too fancy you'll probably be
ok.

Cheers, Robert.
Steve B. - 22 Aug 2005 14:09 GMT
Robert Atkins said:

>> Stephen Denney said:
>>> I am considering buying a Mini Mac,
>>
>> That's "Mac Mini"
>
> Actually it's a "Mac mini", but who's counting :-).

Hey, so it is. You'd think they would have used title case for the name, but
they didn't.

> [Reading MS Word files]
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Cheers, Robert.
Peter McCallum - 21 Aug 2005 01:15 GMT
> - At the library whee I work, they have a room full of I-Mac and Dell
> computers. For some reason the I-Mac cannot scan in multipage documents
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> interested in the text going in as multipage documents, I don't care about
> the pictures.

What scanning software are you using on the Mac? Are you doing OCR or
just storing the pages as images? Omnipage Pro handles multipage OCR ok.

P

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Tristan - 21 Aug 2005 03:54 GMT
On 21/8/05 4:33 AM, in article
Pine.SOL.4.63.0508201123000.12631@conquest.OCF.Berkeley.EDU, "Stephen
Denney" <sdenney@OCF.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:

> I am considering buying a Mini Mac, mainly because I am tired of dealing
> with all the spyware and worm viruses that come to my PC computer. But I
> have a few questions:

That is fine,  which is fair enough.

> - Can I use a keyboard from my old Mac SE computer (1988 model) with the
> Mac Mini; also is there a way I could transfer the files I have on the
> hard drive of the Mac SE and also the floppy disks into the Mac Mini?
> Could I run software originally made for the Mac SE, such as Microsoft
> Word, on the Mac Mini?

Macintosh SE uses ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) keyboard, there is no way you can
use that keyboard in minimac, you'll need an USB Keyboard, you also can get
Microsoft wireless keyboard for it. You can buy external USB Floppy Disk
Drive for the mini mac - works well. Other option is to get a SCSI CD Burner
(I have one here if you would be interested to buy it)

> - Would the CD-RW drive of the Mac Mini recognize CD-RWs I used for
> backing up my PC, and if so, could the Mac Mini convert those files,
> including for Eudora from the PC?

Yup, it should be able to recognise all CDRWs Email documents - I doubt it
but if you export all single emails and import into new email application in
minimac.

> - At the library whee I work, they have a room full of I-Mac and Dell
> computers. For some reason the I-Mac cannot scan in multipage documents
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> interested in the text going in as multipage documents, I don't care about
> the pictures.

Maybe OSX should be able to recognise them, I am 95% sure it would be able
to do that.

> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   - Steve Denney

My Brother has MiniMac 1.42ghz with Combo unit, he loves it but its not an
ideal computer for "Heavy" use such as video, large graphic editing, movies
etc, large files also DVD copying its a VERY basic compact computer based on
minimal specifications, also I recommend you to have more than 512mb RAM,
256mb is too small otherwise it'll use the Hard Disk space converted to
memory which will WAY SLOW down the MiniMac since the internal hard drive
isn't fast enough. Good enough for basic minimal use, if you are planning to
use it for everyday I would recommend/go for G5 instead of minimac.

Cheers
Tristan
Matt McLeod - 22 Aug 2005 07:00 GMT
> Macintosh SE uses ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) keyboard, there is no way you can
> use that keyboard in minimac, you'll need an USB Keyboard,

Actually, there are (or were) ADB-to-USB doovers about.  I used to have
one on a G3 iMac so I could use a nice Logitech trackball that had been
discontinued.  But the one I had has no OS X drivers and wouldn't work
without driver support.

There *may* still be such units around, but they'll be far more
expensive than a cheap USB keyboard.

As to the Eudora-conversion thing, check the Eudora website and see
if the Mac version will read mailboxes from a PC.  Wouldn't be at all
surprised if it did.

Matt
MacMan - 28 Aug 2005 13:01 GMT
Eudora for the Mac can read Eudora for the PC mailboxes, after a
conversion process. I have done it a few times over the years: Mac
Eudora to PC Eudora to Mac Eudora to PC Eudora to Mac Eudora to Apple
Mail.

PC Eudora to Mac Eudora was easier, probably because I was famiiar with
the Mac tools.

Detailed here.

http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1644hq.html

>From memory, I think I just opened each mailbox in Tex-Edit Plus, and
did something to the line endings. Can't fully recall. But it was quite
easy and I didn't lose data.

Anyway, it's a doable task.

Mac mini is a cutie. My family has one. About as powerful as a current
Apple iBook. Much more worthwhile if you can BYODKM (display, keyboard,
mouse). If you have to buy those new, then the price goes up possibly
(not definitely) till the eMac and iMac look like better buys.

And yes, you can use PC monitors, USB keyboard and mice without
additional software. The scanner is a bit of a toss up, depending on
what model it is.  

Good luck.
 
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