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Don't rush the store for Tiger....

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Draino - 28 Apr 2005 07:01 GMT
... if you use any of the following heavily.
(stolen from a pretty knowledgable Dartmouth group)

From the web (mainly MaCnn), these (among many others) are broken by Tiger:

1. HP all-in-one Director application for scanning from desktop using HP
all-in-one unit. Plain printing works using GIMP drivers/Bonjour
2. Popcorn 1.0
3. Stuffit 9.0 (Tiger said to remove it from disk, some people reporting
a Stuffit reinstall works)
4. Quicksilver beta 35 (Mutt) - beta 40 due to be released any day
(since Monday this week)
5. Desktop Manager‹but latest developer release said to be OK
6. Codetek Virtual Lesktop Lite
7. Fetch 4.03
8. Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI adapter card‹likely needs firmware flash
(Sonnet waiting to get GM(!)‹these people can't afford to spend $500 for
Select ADC membership-sheesh)
9. Evocam 3.5‹kernel panics occasionally
10. Carbon Copy Cloner‹authentication error but can run from terminal
11. Haxies
12. And all of the Mail.app plugins, like MailPictures, GPGMail, and
MailEnhancer.  (Which admittedly is fair enough, since they were all
using a private plugin API which could be expected to change.)  GPGMail
has promised a new plugin on Friday.

Most people are reporting main apps like MS Office are OK although MS is
saying an upgrade (yet to be released) is necessary
Jason - 28 Apr 2005 08:28 GMT
> ... if you use any of the following heavily.
> (stolen from a pretty knowledgable Dartmouth group)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 3. Stuffit 9.0 (Tiger said to remove it from disk, some people reporting
> a Stuffit reinstall works)

Yeah, it works, but I wish stuffit format was gone :)

> 4. Quicksilver beta 35 (Mutt) - beta 40 due to be released any day
> (since Monday this week)

Seems to work OK for some :)

> 10. Carbon Copy Cloner‹authentication error but can run from terminal

Interesting, I trashed it because of that... it hasn't been updated in 2 years.

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atreus - 28 Apr 2005 12:49 GMT
Could it be any worse than 10.3.9? Since installing that I have
experience more program crashes than ever before.  And I'm not just
talking Safari.

> ... if you use any of the following heavily.
> (stolen from a pretty knowledgable Dartmouth group)
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Most people are reporting main apps like MS Office are OK although MS is
> saying an upgrade (yet to be released) is necessary
Persifor - 28 Apr 2005 15:39 GMT
> Could it be any worse than 10.3.9? Since installing that I have
> experience more program crashes than ever before.  And I'm not just
> talking Safari.

I'm having the same problem. Is it possible to install 10.3.8 back over
10.3.9? Or do I have to do something horrible , like erase the disk??
Jason - 29 Apr 2005 00:27 GMT
> > Could it be any worse than 10.3.9? Since installing that I have
> > experience more program crashes than ever before.  And I'm not just
> > talking Safari.
>
> I'm having the same problem. Is it possible to install 10.3.8 back over
> 10.3.9? Or do I have to do something horrible , like erase the disk??

Download the combo update for 10.3.9 and re-install. I've seen this happen before
with 10.3.5, and the combo update fixed things.

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Rifty - 29 Apr 2005 01:06 GMT
> Download the combo update for 10.3.9 and re-install.

Just to clarify for me (and possibly others!) to save me going to Apple:
are you saying that there is a combo update to the original 10.3.9 combo
update, or to reinstall the combo update that is the original?

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Jason - 29 Apr 2005 03:52 GMT
> > Download the combo update for 10.3.9 and re-install.
>
> Just to clarify for me (and possibly others!) to save me going to Apple:
> are you saying that there is a combo update to the original 10.3.9 combo
> update, or to reinstall the combo update that is the original?

A combo update is one that upgrades from the base point release (e.g. 10.3)
to the latest version (10.3.9). The updates via software update are incremental updates.

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atreus - 29 Apr 2005 06:32 GMT
>>> Download the combo update for 10.3.9 and re-install.
>>
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> to the latest version (10.3.9). The updates via software update are
> incremental updates.

so by downloading the 'Combo Update 10.3.9' on Mac's website should do
the trick then (in theory)?  Does anything else need to be done or will
downloading it and running it do the trick?
Jason - 29 Apr 2005 18:18 GMT
> >>> Download the combo update for 10.3.9 and re-install.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> the trick then (in theory)?  Does anything else need to be done or will
> downloading it and running it do the trick?

Always, as a safety measure, run disk utility and repair permissions on the boot volume,
before any OS update.

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Ribfeast - 29 Apr 2005 04:18 GMT
I ran Superduper and cloned my 10.3.9 system to a firewire external first,
then formatted my main drive and put 10.4 on.  Then reinstalled everything
from scratch.  Stuffit works fine for me.  Toast is fine.  Fire doesn't work
but I got a hacked version which fixes the incompatibility.

Macfixit.com might have more.

I just need a replacement for Carrafix now so I can cap my upload speed on
certain ports so my web server doesn't slaughter my download speeds.  
 
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