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Mac Forum / Country Specific / Australian Mac Group / February 2005How do I allocate more memory?
My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't changed any settings anywhere. I get a message saying I need to allocate more memory to IE but I don't know how to.It flummoxes me, because I know zilch about how these thing swork.Anyone help? Cheers RP > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet > Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't > changed any settings anywhere. I get a message saying I need to allocate > more memory to IE but I don't know how to.It flummoxes me, because I > know zilch about how these thing swork.Anyone help? With that much RAM, why aren't you running OS X? re your question: get info on the internet explorer app and you will see boxes at the bottom of the info window for allocating more memory. But seriously, eat ze wagon wheel (go OS X) :)  Signature"Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie." -- Dennis Miller > > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet > > Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > With that much RAM, why aren't you running OS X? I actually have OS X as well, but am not sure whether all of my apps will work with it, or if they do, whether my files (some going back to SE20 days) will be readable. I have an awful lot of genealogy and accounting files etc that I can't place in jeopardy. I also run and regularly use lots of graphic apps like Pagemaker, Quark, Photoshop, Freehand etc. > re your question: get info on the internet explorer app and you will see > boxes at the bottom of the info window for allocating more memory. Done, many thanks > But seriously, eat ze wagon wheel (go OS X) :) On 23/2/05 12:27 PM, in article 1gsfwz5.kky22bwd5hp2N%applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz, "Reality Please" <applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > I actually have OS X as well, but am not sure whether all of my apps > will work with it, or if they do, whether my files (some going back to > SE20 days) will be readable. I have an awful lot of genealogy and > accounting files etc that I can't place in jeopardy. I also run and > regularly use lots of graphic apps like Pagemaker, Quark, Photoshop, > Freehand etc. Do you have backups of these? iMac hard drives generally fail after about 3 years. Give OS X a go though, it can only not work :) > On 23/2/05 12:27 PM, in article > 1gsfwz5.kky22bwd5hp2N%applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz, "Reality Please" [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Do you have backups of these? iMac hard drives generally fail after about 3 > years. Give OS X a go though, it can only not work :) Geez, that's something to look forward to -- a failed drive. Yes, I have original disks and/or backups of everything important, but not apps I can download if needed. BUT. Gotta refresh update. Some important family history graphics need attention! Cheers, RP > > On 23/2/05 12:27 PM, in article > > 1gsfwz5.kky22bwd5hp2N%applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz, "Reality Please" [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > can download if needed. BUT. Gotta refresh update. Some important family > history graphics need attention! All of those important files should be backed up on a regular basis. Signature"Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie." -- Dennis Miller Also make sure you have the latest firmware before running MacOS X, or you will lose video on your main screen. On 23/2/05 1:43 PM, in article 1gsg0ph.hps4ev8x8q7iN%applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz, "Reality Please" <applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz> wrote: >> On 23/2/05 12:27 PM, in article >> 1gsfwz5.kky22bwd5hp2N%applepaintedmyth@xtra.co.nz, "Reality Please" [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Cheers, RP > > > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet > > > Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > regularly use lots of graphic apps like Pagemaker, Quark, Photoshop, > Freehand etc. You should be able to run some very old apps under Classic on OS X. Signature"Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie." -- Dennis Miller > You should be able to run some very old apps under Classic on OS X. All of the ones he mentioned, in fact. The only Classic program that I can't live without right now is Pagemaker 6.5. What is the Sys X equivalent of that, and can it deal with older Pagemaker files? I know I should know, but I haven't had to find out. It is a bit tiresome booting up Sys 9 for just one program, so I better bite the bullet. Recommendations from this group as to an OSX alternative are very welcome. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net > What is the Sys X equivalent of that, and can it deal with older > Pagemaker files? PageMaker is pretty much dead. It's replaced by Adobe InDesign. latest version is 3.0, known as CS. It will open old PageMaker files - and Quark and many other apps. You can get an upgrade from PMaker to InDesign. Check www.adobeupgrades.com.au draino >> What is the Sys X equivalent of that, and can it deal with older >> Pagemaker files? > >PageMaker is pretty much dead. It's replaced by Adobe InDesign. latest >version is 3.0, known as CS. It will open old PageMaker files - and >Quark and many other apps. i don't know why adobe persisted with developing it (or even bought pagemaker in the first place) when they also had indesign at the same time. They bought it so they would have less competition Then they could develop it or kill it They decided to kill it andrew On 25/2/05 6:00 PM, in article none-2502051800310001@c210-49-174-105.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au, "woodsie" <none@none.com> wrote: >>> What is the Sys X equivalent of that, and can it deal with older >>> Pagemaker files? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pagemaker in the first place) when they also had indesign at the same > time. >They bought it so they would have less competition >Then they could develop it or kill it >They decided to kill it if they wanted to kill the competition they should have bought out quark. pagemaker was always a poor 2nd before indesign was born. yet adobe bought it and started marketing both with reasoning i never understood. > if they wanted to kill the competition they should have bought out quark. > pagemaker was always a poor 2nd before indesign was born. yet adobe bought > it and started marketing both with reasoning i never understood. I know it's all relative, but Pagemaker has a big following still with Mac and also with the PC mob, and I am not sure what replaces it on that side. It was probably a good move on Adobe's part to buy it and control its future. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net > I know it's all relative, but Pagemaker has a big following still with > Mac and also with the PC mob, and I am not sure what replaces it on that > side. It was probably a good move on Adobe's part to buy it and control > its future. > > Rifty PageMaker is dead. Get used to it, it's not coming back. It does not have a big following, most PM users half serious about page layout moved to InDesign over the past 2 years. That includes both Mac and Win users. It's also taken market share from Quark, mainly due to their over the top pricing policies. As an aside Adobe bought PageMaker from Aldus about 13 years ago, so they gave it a good run. draino >> I know it's all relative, but Pagemaker has a big following still with >> Mac and also with the PC mob, and I am not sure what replaces it on that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >As an aside Adobe bought PageMaker from Aldus about 13 years ago, so >they gave it a good run. since you're pronouncing death, add quark to that list also. > since you're pronouncing death, add quark to that list also. you definitely got that right - used to be a very good product, but always hopelessly overpriced. > PageMaker is dead. Get used to it, it's not coming back. I'm quite happy for what was a good program to have been replaced by something better! I was just curious to know if anyone using replacement/upgrade programs like InDesign had any comments on them. Thanks. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net Being a long time user of quark, I find Indesign slow and cumbersome. Frankly the best layout program out there is Quark 4.1, many Ad agencies dont want to upgrade from that. Quark 6 is a disaster, painfuly slow, much slower than Quark 4 in classic mode on OS X, furthurmore Q6 can't even pdf properly, which renders the whole package unusable IMHO. i think Quark is killing themselves with that little effort.. Too bad about indesign, I was hoping it was better. Then there is the issue of keystroke shortcuts, which makes quark 4 a high speed delight to work with, and are totally arse about on Indesign. Explains why a lot of designers/typesetters dont want to switch. dog > > PageMaker is dead. Get used to it, it's not coming back. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rifty Pagemaker may be dead, but I still found it one of the easiets (read for idiots, who were not typographers) page layout programs, and I could jump into it and make up something easily, and quickley... I dont know why indesign could not have carroied over the same simplicity. it is too powerful an complicated, and now there is little inbetween for use simple users who want something more than appleworks, but less than indesign... and I have indesign cs, and it will only open up pagemaker documents of under two dozen pages.. my book of three hundres pagees can not be opened or converted by indesign... (remember pagemaker supplied their own Pagemaker 3 to higher converter), and pagemaker 5, which I still use under OS 10.3.8 had an automatic batch converter filter that would scan a whole hard didk and conver all earlier pagemaker documents... where is that for indesign... The reason fo the mac was it compatibility among programs, data exchane and conversions, etc... adobe seems to have forgotten about earlier data from their own programs.. (alread Photoshop CS has shown compatibility with some earlier data from photoshop 5 and earlier files... and has a few bugs of its own that keep corrupting files..) I agree thecnology should mover forward, but a bit more backward compatability among their own programs would help... regards Sandy barrie > Being a long time user of quark, I find Indesign slow and cumbersome. > Frankly the best layout program out there is Quark 4.1, many Ad agencies [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >>Rifty > Being a long time user of quark, I find Indesign slow and cumbersome. > Frankly the best layout program out there is Quark 4.1, many Ad agencies > dont want to upgrade from that. Thanks for that info. Appreciated. Pagemaker remains a very flexible program for handling low to medium level graphics/text integration. The fact that is has been bought and then canned doesn't change that. Sorta like Word 5a for the Mac - a brilliant program that could do things no later incarnation of Word can do so quickly and effectively. Incidentally, I rarely used Quark so I have no comment on it either way. I have had a copy for years but never had a sufficiently good reason for the things I do to learn it thoroughly. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net snip.... The fact that is has been bought and then canned doesn't change that. snip... It was bought by Adobe 13 years ago for chrissakes. Read the previous messages before making stupid comments like that. draino > It was bought by Adobe 13 years ago for chrissakes. Read the previous > messages before making stupid comments like that. > draino Why is it a stupid comment? I read all the previous messages and what I said stands. It *is* a good program, though now way past its prime, it's now canned, and it *was* bought by Adobe. If it was 13 years ago, so what? Adobe developed it for quite a while before canning it. Hell, you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Get over it! Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net <snip> > I know it's all relative, but Pagemaker has a big following still with > Mac and also with the PC mob, and I am not sure what replaces it on > that side. I use "Indesign" on the PC, having switched from Pagemaker. SignatureTrevor S "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." -Albert Einstein > > You should be able to run some very old apps under Classic on OS X. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What is the Sys X equivalent of that, and can it deal with older > Pagemaker files? Adobe In Design, and I don't know. Signature"Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie." -- Dennis Miller > I actually have OS X as well, but am not sure whether all of my apps > will work with it, or if they do, whether my files (some going back to > SE20 days) will be readable. I have an awful lot of genealogy and Now is the time to find out. Your situation will only get worse. While you have the capacity to run both OS9 and OSX you should be endeavouring to transform your data into future-proof formats (ASCII text, CSV or XML or such). > accounting files etc that I can't place in jeopardy. I also run and > regularly use lots of graphic apps like Pagemaker, Quark, Photoshop, > Freehand etc. Find replacements for them and upgrade while it's a choice and not a necessity. One day your current Mac will die, or become unserviceable -- all technology does -- and you'll be left in the lurch. OSX is much nicer too. Yes, you'll need to upgrade your software. But you'll be happier for it. Cheers, Robert. > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet > Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > RP Select the IE application in the Finder and "get info" (Command-I). In the Get Info window increase the memory allocation. IE works best with around 20MB or more. Peter SignaturePeter McCallum Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA > > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with Internet > > Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband and I haven't [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Peter Many thanks RP > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with > Internet Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband > and I haven't changed any settings anywhere. I get a message > saying I need to allocate more memory to IE but I don't know how > to.It flummoxes me, because I know zilch about how these thing > swork.Anyone help? 1. find and select the "Internet Explorer" application's icon (the Original, not the alias/shortcut icon) 2. Choose "Get Info" > "Memory" from the "File" menu 3. See a box that says Suggested Size XXXX, Minimum Size XXXX and Preferred Size XXXX? Increase Preferred Size to larger than Suggested Size, double if you want to, you have more than enough RAM onboard. For (an old but still usable) reference, read: <http://www.upenn.edu/computing/printout/archive/v12/6/memory.html> Signaturedee > 1. find and select the "Internet Explorer" application's icon (the > Original, not the alias/shortcut icon) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Increase Preferred Size to larger than Suggested Size, double if you > want to, you have more than enough RAM onboard. Also important. You cannot increase any application's allocated memory if that program is running at the time. Make sure IE is not running when you try to increase it's memory. Click on (Finder) icon top right of screen, if you can see IE's name there, it is running. Quit IE and then increase it's memory. Signaturedee > > My iMac (sys 9.2.2 and 576 MB memory) is having a problem with > > Internet Explorer, slowing awfully even though I have broadband [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > For (an old but still usable) reference, read: > <http://www.upenn.edu/computing/printout/archive/v12/6/memory.html> Many thanks RP |
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