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G5 dual - when does second chip come in?

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Robotman - 15 Nov 2004 06:34 GMT
Hi i am steering my work towards getting some new G5's but don't know
whether to try to get single or dual chips.

When does the second chip cut in - only in programs that can use it? or is
it running all the time when under load?

Would it be better to go the fastest single or a dual 1.8?

Thanks, Robotman.
David J Richardson - 15 Nov 2004 07:36 GMT
> When does the second chip cut in - only in programs that can use it?
> or is it running all the time when under load?

Operates all the time, the OS does a good job of splitting the load.
However, only specially written programs will split *themselves* to
work on both chips simultaneously.

> Would it be better to go the fastest single or a dual 1.8?

If you can afford it, the dual is a no-brainer decision here.

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s - 16 Nov 2004 09:16 GMT
>>When does the second chip cut in - only in programs that can use it?
>>or is it running all the time when under load?
>
> Operates all the time, the OS does a good job of splitting the load.
> However, only specially written programs will split *themselves* to
> work on both chips simultaneously.

That's something to be wary of, if you buy a dual CPU machine, but then
spend most of your time running a single-threaded app, one CPU could
concievably sit mostly idle. It would at least allow the machine to stay
response to other processes.

>>Would it be better to go the fastest single or a dual 1.8?
>
> If you can afford it, the dual is a no-brainer decision here.
Dale Stanbrough - 16 Nov 2004 10:47 GMT
> >>When does the second chip cut in - only in programs that can use it?
> >>or is it running all the time when under load?
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> concievably sit mostly idle. It would at least allow the machine to stay
> response to other processes.

If you have a one CPU machine, -that- CPU spends most of it's time
idle as well.

Even iTunes would keep a modern CPU busy only occasionally (a 400 Mhz G3
can play iTunes and a DVD at the same time without any problems).

Dale

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_ - 16 Nov 2004 19:56 GMT
> That's something to be wary of, if you buy a dual CPU machine, but then
> spend most of your time running a single-threaded app, one CPU could
> concievably sit mostly idle. It would at least allow the machine to stay
> response to other processes.

One of those other processes is the window server. It's long been
known that dual CPUs are a win with such s/w architectures (where
the display is handled by a separate process).  Even when a single
CPU is not loaded (as is mostly the case other than "extreme" compute
situations as when doing a MPEG encode or rendering [and even that's
getting offloaded to the graphics processor these days]) the extra
CPU is a win as it typically less expensive to talk to the process
on the other CPU than it is to switch between processes on a single
CPU (e.g. cache doesn't get flogged and MMU state can be kept). The
end result being the system feels a little more responsive.

Go for two!
 
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