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picked up my new ibook today .. few newbie questions

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s - 27 Oct 2004 12:40 GMT
Got my first mac today, and have been tinkering for a while. First question
is how to install apps. Apps i've downloaded seem to be distributed as disk
images. So far i've grabbed mozilla, firefox, gimp and X11, but i'm not
sure about the right place to put the images. The first one i downloaded
seems to have ended up on my desktop and gave me the opportunity to put an
icon in the dock. Having the application's files on my desktop doesn't seem
right. What's the right process to go thru to install an app that would be
available to all users ? Where's the standard app install directory ? e.g.
c:\program files\ on a PC or /usr/local/ on a linux box.

PS: i got the 14" 1.33GHz iBook with dvd-burner, 786MB RAM, keyboard and
carry bag. Took 1 week to arrive.
Scott - 27 Oct 2004 13:28 GMT
Simplest place to put apps is /Applications.

Apps are often distributed in disk images but you don't need to keep the
image once the app is installed.

Disk images should be mounted (double-click it) to find out what they
contain.

If it contains an installer run it and it will probably put the app in
the Applications folder for you.

Some images will contain the app as a file package. In this case just
drag it (copy) from the image into the Applications folder.

Put icons in the dock if you want. (I've put my Applications folder into
the dock to give me quick access to things I don't want in the dock.)

Once you're done, there's no reason (apart from backup) to keep the
image file, so eject the disk and trash the image file.

scott

> Got my first mac today, and have been tinkering for a while. First question
> is how to install apps. Apps i've downloaded seem to be distributed as disk
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> PS: i got the 14" 1.33GHz iBook with dvd-burner, 786MB RAM, keyboard and
> carry bag. Took 1 week to arrive.
Matt McLeod - 27 Oct 2004 13:31 GMT
>Got my first mac today, and have been tinkering for a while. First question
>is how to install apps. Apps i've downloaded seem to be distributed as disk
>images. So far i've grabbed mozilla, firefox, gimp and X11, but i'm not
>sure about the right place to put the images.

Typically you mount the image (double-click on it) and then copy the
application file to your /Applications folder.  In most cases all the
related files are part of the application bundle which Finder presents
as being a single icon.

But really you can put them anywhere you like.  You're pretty much stuck
leaving all the Apple stuff in /Applications -- the software update tool
doesn't deal well with those being moved -- but everything else can go
anywhere.  Some people partition their disks so that they have a boot
volume large enough for the OS, swap, and the bundled applications, and
then put everything else on a different volume.  Simplifies matters if
you have to nuke the OS for some reason.

Matt
s - 28 Oct 2004 10:52 GMT
>>Got my first mac today, and have been tinkering for a while. First
>>question is how to install apps. Apps i've downloaded seem to be
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> then put everything else on a different volume.  Simplifies matters if
> you have to nuke the OS for some reason.

I'm not sure if i've done the right thing, but it seems to be working.

X11 was pretty obvious. I put the dmg file into /Applications/X11 and opened
it, and was presented with an installer. Afterwards i removed the dmg file
an X11 is still working. Some went for mozilla.

I'm still puzzled though, when i run mozilla, an icon appears on the desktop
that looks like a generic 'volume' icon. When i close moz, it goes away.
However, while it is there, double clicking on it gives me the chance to
put a shortcut to mozilla whereever i like.

Have to keep tinkering ..

Next question : fonts .. how do i control the default GUI font ? I was
hoping to switch it to a non-AA font to improve crispness.

Other than that, having never used a mac before in my life, i've found it
exceedingly intuitive.

> Matt
Dorian Gray - 28 Oct 2004 16:42 GMT
> I'm still puzzled though, when i run mozilla, an icon appears on the desktop
> that looks like a generic 'volume' icon. When i close moz, it goes away.
> However, while it is there, double clicking on it gives me the chance to
> put a shortcut to mozilla whereever i like.

Actually what you are doing might work but it is not how it should be.  
What you must have done at some stage is drag the Mozilla icon onto the
Dock, from inside the mounted dmg Volume.  This creates on the Dock an
alias (shortcut) to this Mozilla application file.  But this Mozilla
application resides inside the dmg Volume.  So when you click on the
icon on the Dock, it has to mount the dmg Volume, which then appears on
your Desktop, *then* it can launch Mozilla.

What you should do is the following:  Double click on the dmg Volume (or
mount it by clicking on the Dock icon!).  Drag off the Dock the existing
Mozilla icon.  When you let go of the button, it disappears in a puff of
smoke, with the corresponding sound effect (cute).  Drag the Mozilla
application from the mounted dmg Volume, into your Application folder.  
Drag *this* Mozilla icon from the Application folder to the Dock, which
will create a Dock alias pointing to the application in the Dock (that's
better!).

Then you can drag the mounted dmg Volume to the trash (eject).  Then
find the dmg file itself, and trash that also.

Cheers.
s - 29 Oct 2004 09:33 GMT
>> I'm still puzzled though, when i run mozilla, an icon appears on the
>> desktop that looks like a generic 'volume' icon. When i close moz, it
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> icon on the Dock, it has to mount the dmg Volume, which then appears on
> your Desktop, *then* it can launch Mozilla.

I think i've got it sorted now. opened the DMG, dragged things out, deleted
DMS and then put icons on the dock.

I've gone back to the apps i've installed and sorted them out. (gimp, moz,
x11, openoffice)

> What you should do is the following:  Double click on the dmg Volume (or
> mount it by clicking on the Dock icon!).  Drag off the Dock the existing
> Mozilla icon.  When you let go of the button, it disappears in a puff of
> smoke, with the corresponding sound effect (cute).  Drag the Mozilla

hehe .. very cute.

Actually, is there some way to reduce the eye-candy ?

> application from the mounted dmg Volume, into your Application folder.
> Drag *this* Mozilla icon from the Application folder to the Dock, which
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>
> Cheers.
 
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