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Paul Richardson - 23 Jun 2005 05:02 GMT I am trying to help a developer who is doing some work for my client. I am wondering if there are any applications like Apple Remote Desktop, but with a twist.
They run on PC's and allow you to be on a Macs desktop for running apps and the like
thanks in advance
pheonix1t - 23 Jun 2005 06:09 GMT > I am trying to help a developer who is doing some work for my client. I > am wondering if there are any applications like Apple Remote Desktop, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thanks in advance vnc www.tightvnc.com also others similar to this - realvnc, etc.
Zaphod B - 23 Jun 2005 06:45 GMT > > I am trying to help a developer who is doing some work for my client. I > > am wondering if there are any applications like Apple Remote Desktop, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > www.tightvnc.com > also others similar to this - realvnc, etc. NO, this is NOT Mark Conrad,;-) - but - Timbuktu (aka "TB2") does this very well too, although it's commercial and does a lot of other stufff as well. Worth checking out.
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Mark Conrad - 23 Jun 2005 17:57 GMT > NO, this is NOT Mark Conrad,;-) > - but - Timbuktu (aka "TB2") does this very well too, although it's > commercial and does a lot of other stufff as well. Worth checking out. Gosh, I did not utter a peep. ;-)
TB2 does have its drawbacks, you know.
1) High price 2) No written user manual 3) No tech' support, only email 4) Can't play sounds from remote computer's speakers 5) VNC supports more platforms than TB2 does
All that said, it has more features than any other remote control application out there.
Try these with s-l-o-w VNC for comparison, you will be disappointed
1) Newbie install _and_ configure VNC in 10 minutes 2) Install VNC in a _remote_ Mac, grab control of remote Mac 3) Create QuickTime movie of entire VNC session 4) Full support of _all_ OSX's file permissions 5) Easy and _quick_ file transfers to/from remote computer 6) Full duplex voice over same line as remote control session (only on broadband, of course) 7) Can miniturize many remote "live" windows as small as one-inch square, and still have items in those windows clickable, dragable, etc.
Lotsa luck trying to get above features working with VNC, not to mention the lousy security of VNC itself:
1) Cleartext protocol, entire graphical display subject to eaves-dropping, in other words everything on the screens of both computers can be seen by a cracker. It is HIGHLY recommended that all VNC sessions be sent using SSH for this reason.
2) Weak Authentication Process (VU# 303080, BugTraq ID 2275)
3) WinVNC Server Buffer Overflow (CAN-2001-0168, VU# 598581, BUGTRAQ ID 2306
4) WinVNC Weak Registry Permissions (CVE-2000-1164, VU# 197477, BugTraq ID 1961)
Further details on page 446 of "Mac OS X Maximum Security"
Needless to say, the present version 8.0.1 of Timbuktu has none of those security flaws.
I will stick with the high priced TB2, thank you.
If I had a hundred remote Macs, I could easily _legally_ get by with $200 total for two copies of TB2, $100 apiece, as long as I am only remotely controlling one Mac at a time.
If I wanted all of the hundred Macs and PCs actively engaged in the same network, where any Mac or any PC could control all other Macs and PCs, then I would have to buy the much higher priced unlimited versions of Timbuktu.
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Mark Conrad - 28 Nov 2007 19:54 GMT > NO, this is NOT Mark Conrad,;-) > - but - Timbuktu (aka "TB2") does this very well too, although it's > commercial and does a lot of other stufff as well. Worth checking out. Windows version of TB2 is kinda crippled, y'know.
Micromat thinks so little of their own Windows version that they don't even require users to enter a serial number on the Windows end.
Just my little contribution to Timbuktu advocacy. :)
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nospam - 29 Nov 2007 05:03 GMT In article <noneof-C591F2.11543428112007@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Mark Conrad <noneof@urbusiness.invalid> wrote:
> > NO, this is NOT Mark Conrad,;-) > > - but - Timbuktu (aka "TB2") does this very well too, although it's > > commercial and does a lot of other stufff as well. Worth checking out. > > Windows version of TB2 is kinda crippled, y'know. crippled how? i don't recall it being any different than the mac version.
> Micromat thinks so little of their own Windows version > that they don't even require users to enter a serial number > on the Windows end. micromat does not make timbuktu, and the last time i tried windows timbuktu, i was emailed a serial number. i just needed it for a one time connection and the trial version worked fine.
> Just my little contribution to Timbuktu advocacy. :) if you say so.
Mark Conrad - 29 Nov 2007 10:50 GMT > micromat does not make timbuktu Sorry about that, Netopia makes TB2 of course.
Blame senility at this end, old age sucks.
> > Netopia thinks so little of their own Windows version > > that they don't even require users to enter a S/N [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > serial number. i just needed it for a one-time > connection and the trial version worked fine. That is strange, here I did not need to enter anything here in order to get TB2 to work on Vista Ultimate.
Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that I had a physical CD from Netopia, instead of a download version.
> > Windows version of TB2 is kinda crippled, y'know. > > crippled how? i don't recall it being any different > than the mac version. For one thing, the most recent version of TB2 for Windows does not allow a Windows user to do a "Push Install".
A 'Push Install' is a way to install Timbuktu into a distant computer that does not already have Timbuktu installed.
A Mac user can "push" Timbuktu into any distant Mac that does not already have Timbuktu installed.
One condition is that the remote Mac has to have its "Remote Login" _temporarily_ turned on in the Sharing preference panel.
This 'Push Install' is very handy if you have a distant family member who is having problems with their Mac.
Push Install only works Mac to Mac, and only then provided you have the most _recent_ version 8.7 installed on the Mac that is doing the 'pushing'.
After you install TB2 into the remote Mac, you immediately have full control of that Mac.
...provided you did the Push Install properly.
(fairly easy to do, TB2 Help has all the info' needed to do the push install)
The remote Mac can even be unattended, no one anywhere near it.
For example, just to try the Push Install feature, I installed Timbuktu into a 7 year old Pismo PowerBook.
I was 'pushing' the install from my newest MacBook Pro.
Remote install worked flawlessly, I could immediately grab control of the Pismo from the MacBook Pro, after the install had completed.
Keep in mind, you _have_ to have two separate licensed versions of Timbuktu for this to work, because as you know TB2 will not work if both Macs have the same activation number.
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nospam - 29 Nov 2007 12:30 GMT In article <noneof-065435.02500429112007@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Mark Conrad <noneof@urbusiness.invalid> wrote:
> Push Install only works Mac to Mac, and only then > provided you have the most _recent_ version 8.7 > installed on the Mac that is doing the 'pushing'. push install has been there since 8.0. see the bottom of:
<http://www.netopia.com/software/products/tb2/mac/latestnews.html>
Mark Conrad - 29 Nov 2007 19:42 GMT > Conrad <noneof@urbusiness.invalid> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > <http://www.netopia.com/software/products/tb2/mac/latestnews.html> Thanks for that correction.
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Frédérique & Her vé Sainct - 23 Jun 2005 07:03 GMT > I am trying to help a developer who is doing some work for my client. I > am wondering if there are any applications like Apple Remote Desktop, > but with a twist. > > They run on PC's and allow you to be on a Macs desktop for running apps > and the like Aside all the free vnc and likes, the shareware couple Astroshare/astroview seems geared to mixity (control any of PC, mac, palm... from any other in the same lot). Like the others they also add the capability of audio chat, file exchange etc.
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