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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / May 2005Why does Classic startup hang in Tiger for me?
I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I installed Tiger (thanx to Senor CaJones) over Panther 10.3.8 without incident. But Classic now gets stuck early in start up of 9.2.2. I have repaired volumes, repaired permissions, booted up fine in 9.2.2 by choosing it as the startup disk. I cannot, however, boot into 9.2.2 on startup by holding down the option key. . . it isn't recognized as a legitimite option, doesn't appear. Can someone suggest a fix? ---Ken > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I > installed Tiger (thanx to Senor CaJones) over Panther 10.3.8 without > incident. But Classic now gets stuck early in start up of 9.2.2. Try starting up Classic (within Tiger) with extensions off. You can do this from the Classic preference pane. If that doesn't work you may have to reinstall Classic. > I have > repaired volumes, repaired permissions, booted up fine in 9.2.2 by > choosing it as the startup disk. I cannot, however, boot into 9.2.2 on > startup by holding down the option key. . . it isn't recognized as a > legitimite option, doesn't appear. Can someone suggest a fix? ---Ken I don't think this is a new problem, or even a problem. Using Open Firmware to see a Classic folder has always been hit-or-miss. Since you can start up in 9.2.2 by using the startup disk preferences, you can start up in 9.2.2. So don't worry about it. m.  Signaturematt neuburg, phd = matt@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ Tiger - http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/tiger-customizing.html AppleScript - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005571 Read TidBITS! It's free and smart. http://www.tidbits.com > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I > installed Tiger (thanx to Senor CaJones) over Panther 10.3.8 without > incident. But Classic now gets stuck early in start up of 9.2.2. I have > repaired volumes, repaired permissions, booted up fine in 9.2.2 by > choosing it as the startup disk. All I can say is, I have the same behavior here... hervé SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus > > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > hervé As others have recommended, I restored OS 9.2.2 from original disks, but this made no difference. Then I installed a second copy of Tiger onto another disk partition and was immediately able to start up Classic. The first time I installed Tiger I apparently did a custom install because I notice the "extra" languages present in my second Tiger install are not present in my first Tiger install. If you have an extra partition, maybe try installing Tiger using the basic easy install. It will take forever and install drivers for 1000 printers you will never have. But perhaps you will be able to use Classic then. I'll be interested to see your results if you try it. ---Ken In the end I bluntly copied the OS9 system folder from my wife's mac (I bought a falimy install for Tiger, her Classic was working well), and everythig went OK (the new OS9 rebuilt its own desktop database, which I think is normal since I displaced it on another disk). This is not very intelligent, but it worked... Hervé SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus > > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > hervé In another newsgroup MacBradPro said OS X works best when loaded onto the first partition of a hard drive. That may be an important factor because Classic failed to work for me when Tiger was loaded on the second partition but loaded Classic just fine when Tiger was on the first partition. I don't think it matters which partition OS 9.2 is on. ---Ken > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I > installed Tiger (thanx to Senor CaJones) over Panther 10.3.8 without > incident. But Classic now gets stuck early in start up of 9.2.2. I have > repaired volumes, repaired permissions, booted up fine in 9.2.2 by > choosing it as the startup disk. Have you tried (re)starting Classic with all extensions turned off? You can find this option in System Preferences - Classic - Advanced. If that works, use Extensions Manager to enable a few extensions at a time, until you find the one that's causing problems. > Have you tried (re)starting Classic with all extensions turned off? You > can find this option in System Preferences - Classic - Advanced. If that > works, use Extensions Manager to enable a few extensions at a time, until > you find the one that's causing problems. matt and wayne (and anyone else obviously), Thanks but the hang occurs with "Extensions Off" in the Tiger Sys Pref panel where I try to start Classic. I can boot up into OS 9 fine and have used the extensions manager control panel to select all the 9.2.2 extensions/control panels and disable everything that wasn't installed with 9.2.1 install disk + 9.2.2 later update. I tried to to a clean reinstall of OS9. The OS9.2.1 install disk booted me up fine but wouldn't let me install; said to refer to docs. I used to be able to install OS9 on this Powermac G4 867 MHz mirror-drive door, but now I am not allowed to. So I cannot run Classic and can nevermore install OS9 on any of my internal volumes I guess. Something is really wrong with this picture. I don't see in the docs any reference to my problem. Hope someone figures this out soon.---Ken > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > startup by holding down the option key. . . it isn't recognized as a > legitimite option, doesn't appear. Can someone suggest a fix? ---Ken Just for yuks, i went to the Classic control panel and started it, no problem at all. TIger on a 1.67ghz PowerBook with 1.5gb of ram. SignatureAddress in header is dead, please use: netuse2 <at> jkonton <dot> best <dot> vwh <dot> net Please excuse the munging, but after receiving thousands of emails with the swen virus due to usenet email harvesting... > I had Panther on one partition and OS 9.2.2 on another. I could start > up in 9.2.2 but rarely did because Panther Classic ran it fine. I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > startup by holding down the option key. . . it isn't recognized as a > legitimite option, doesn't appear. Can someone suggest a fix? ---Ken Did you repair "classic permissions"? Its old fashion desktop rebuild. Also, try the classic control panes "all extensions off" and see if it works BTW I noticed something cool that Classic startup uses idle priority not to slow down the OS X apps so if you use seti@home, folding@home it will start 50% slower. At least here I say. Ilgaz Ocal |
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