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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / May 2005Tiger Time: Any Experiences to Report?
I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no messages here from early adopters. Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) Phil Phil Wheeler: > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. > Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) I received my family pack this morning. It will eventually be installed on four Macs, but due to time constraints I have installed it only on an iMac thus far. I did an "archive and install" and it was as smooth as butter. I haven't had a chance to try all of my apps, but those that I have tried -- including some of my all-important astronomy apps -- have all worked flawlessly. The iMac was running 10.3.9; it feels a bit zippier -- especially the Finder -- with a Tiger in the tank. Davoud  Signatureusenet *at* davidillig dawt com > Phil Wheeler: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > an iMac thus far. I did an "archive and install" and it was as smooth > as butter. Thanks, Davoud. This is a new machine (two weeks) with 10.3.9. So I will just do the upgrade. Not much new on this (created by me) and all that is backed up to a server -- so not much to lose by not archiving. Phil Phil Wheeler: > >>I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > >>messages here from early adopters. > >>Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) Davoud: > > I received my family pack this morning. It will eventually be installed > > on four Macs, but due to time constraints I have installed it only on > > an iMac thus far. I did an "archive and install" and it was as smooth > > as butter. Phil Wheeler: > Thanks, Davoud. > This is a new machine (two weeks) with 10.3.9. So I will just do the > upgrade. Not much new on this (created by me) and all that is backed up > to a server -- so not much to lose by not archiving. ***** Please also see my later post in CSMS about my first Tiger crash :-( Nonetheless, I'm impressed. Safari is faster, scrolls more smoothly, and has better text selection. Davoud Signatureusenet *at* davidillig dawt com (1) Safari now works GREAT ! with LinkSys router web setup pages. Previously I had to use Mozilla or Firefox to work on the router. (Router worked fine with the system just router setup was a problem.) (2) Podcast Tuner doesn't work with Tiger. Developer is working on a new one. (3) Homemade Cocoa apps still work, developed on 10.3.x (4) Found that C++ command Tool apps needed to have libstdc++a removed as not found now. Removing it let the app build and I could debug it. Also XCode 1.5 is NOT happy trying to run on Tiger. I have installed it on a G4 1GHz PowerBook and a Dual 533 MHz G4. > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. That's because it's a system, not an application. SignatureThough I've tried, I've fallen... / I have sunk so low I have messed up / Better I should know > > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > > messages here from early adopters. > > That's because it's a system, not an application. Now, that's just silly. It's a system which includes many new and updated applications - some without only marginal changes (ie. adding RSS to Safari doesn't do much, I think, given the excellent RSS readers already out there), some substantial - ie. Spotlight replacing exising search abilities, Mail.app improvements. We've already seen a couple of folks indicate elsewhere that certain Mail.app plug-ins (PGP encryption, for example) cause the new Mail.app do blow up. SignaturePlain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting > > That's because it's a system, not an application. > > Now, that's just silly. If you want to read about the system upgrade, try the system group. SignatureThough I've tried, I've fallen... / I have sunk so low I have messed up / Better I should know > > > That's because it's a system, not an application. > > > > Now, that's just silly. > > If you want to read about the system upgrade, try the system group. I want to read about the *applications*. I trust that the system itself is fairly stable. How's the new Mail.app treating people, though? Note that these days, the dividing line between system and applications is fuzzier and fuzzier. Think about Safari, for example - Safari's clearly an App, but it renders the web pages using WebKit, which is clearly part of the System. SignaturePlain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting > > > > That's because it's a system, not an application. > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > for example - Safari's clearly an App, but it renders the > web pages using WebKit, which is clearly part of the System. I believe a "system" is the combination of a kernel, libraries, and a bunch of common applications that are bundled with it. You can't really get apps like Mail, Safari, iCal separately from OS X releases. SignatureBarry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. > > Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) fine here on titanium PBG4 -Spotlight searches are indeed baffling. The kind of thing you understand you'll not get back from... In the following hour I send a series of email to the developpers of most of my softwares (RSS aggregator, book library manager, CD library...) to ask *when* would SL supported. Interestingly many answered instantly "now"... Hervé SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus > > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > > messages here from early adopters. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > *when* would SL supported. Interestingly many answered instantly > "now"... Which software was this? - geoff > Which software was this? Powermail, now (current beta version) book library: Booxter, presently partly installed, entierely "within the *coming* week" DVD library: DVDPedia, next release probably within weeks RSS: next thing to come in NetNewsWire (but now there are so many newcomers it'd be worth rescanning them, maybe one already does it CDROM database: no reply from mine (tri-catalog) but after all it's week-end! I am wondering wether there is somewhere an html page or wiki that would list the Spotlight-compatible softwares. The one at apple seems quite minimalist (only plugins appear): <http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/spotlight/> SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus > I am wondering wether there is somewhere an html page or wiki that would > list the Spotlight-compatible softwares. The one at apple seems quite > minimalist (only plugins appear): > <http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/spotlight/> I agree that'd be nice. I just released a Spotlight importer for the Acta outliner (on our web site). Acta still runs under Classic, but that doesn't keep it from being searchable. SignatureDavid Dunham A Sharp, LLC http://www.a-sharp.com/ "I say we should listen to the customers and give them what they want." "What they want is better products for free." --Scott Adams Frédérique & Hervé Sainct <h.sainct@laposte.net> wrote: > In the following hour I send a series of email to the developpers of most > of my softwares (RSS aggregator, book library manager, CD library...) to > ask *when* would SL supported. Interestingly many answered instantly > "now"... Since you forgot to ask Stefan Haller about SpotLight searching within MacSOUP database, I'll drop him an e-mail and let you know. :) SignatureSerge Pajak > Since you forgot to ask Stefan Haller about SpotLight searching within > MacSOUP database, I'll drop him an e-mail and let you know. :) I didn't :-)) but no reply as of now -the more we are... H. SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus > Since you forgot to ask Stefan Haller about SpotLight searching within > MacSOUP database, I'll drop him an e-mail and let you know. :) Here's the answer: Stefan is not sure about supporting Spotlight, he had not look closely at Tiger yet. He is concerned that Spotlight was not designed to search inside a database and somewhat prefers a lot of separate files, which is clearly not the way MacSOUP is organized. SignatureSerge Pajak > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. > > Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) My personal copy of Tiger hasn't arrived yet. I am running a beta Tiger (very recent version) and it appears not as smooth and polished as the demo I saw last night at a Tiger coming out party. > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. > > Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) It runs fine. I've only encountered one issue, and that was with a third-party application, Desktop Manager. The author is already at work on an update and has made a Tiger-compatible pre-release available. It's being called an alpha, but seems stable and robust to me, so far anyway. Other than that, and the expected need to rebuild carbon emacs, zero troubles. As usual, upgrade fear is unfounded. > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. I had a problem with Mail choking on one of my inboxes, but seem to have that sorted out now. It appeared to be a particular message with binary attachments that caused the problem. I don't care for the new Mail interface. At. All. Aside from that, no problems so far but I haven't done that much pounding yet. SignatureOne site: <http://www.balderstone.ca> The other site, with ww links<http://www.woodenwabbits.com> ------------------------------------------------------ ~ Stay Calm... Be Brave... Wait for the Signs ~ Has anything changed in Classic? SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >Has anything changed in Classic? The usual request to update the Classic files on first boot of Classic, then it's as before. > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. A few on my blog: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/calum/20050429#tiger_so_far >> I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no >> messages here from early adopters. > > A few on my blog: > http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/calum/20050429#tiger_so_far Any luck yet with Photoshop CS? I assume it worked with Panther. That's an app I've been pondering in my PC->Mac migration, but I will ponder it a while longer if it does not work with Tiger (which I installed last evening with no problems). Phil > Any luck yet with Photoshop CS? I assume it worked with Panther. Yes, I had another go at a clean install of Photoshop and it worked this time. I must just have missed deleting something the first time around that Tiger didn't like. Cheeri, Calum. > Any luck yet with Photoshop CS? I assume it worked with Panther. Yes, I had another go at a clean install of Photoshop and it worked this time. I must just have missed deleting something the first time around that Tiger didn't like. Cheeri, Calum. >> Any luck yet with Photoshop CS? I assume it worked with Panther. > > Yes, I had another go at a clean install of Photoshop and it worked this > time. I must just have missed deleting something the first time around > that Tiger didn't like. Thanks! > Any luck yet with Photoshop CS? I assume it worked with Panther. photoshop cs works fine in tiger. this person has other issues. > That's an app I've been pondering in my PC->Mac migration, but I will > ponder it a while longer if it does not work with Tiger (which I > installed last evening with no problems). the only issue is the update&install misses a file and adobe has a technote on that. same thing happened with jag->panth. > I'm about to go there (1910 PDT here). But I'm surprised to see no > messages here from early adopters. > > Hopefully, not because all Tiger hosting Macs have crashed :-) > > Phil Mail crashes incesssantly. I'm using Spam Sieve so I'll probably have to disable it in order to rule out an incompatability. Signature"All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." - Louis Armstrong > Mail crashes incesssantly. I'm using Spam Sieve so I'll probably have > to disable it in order to rule out an incompatability. I had crashes until I removed the mail bundles that I'd previously installed. > Mail crashes incesssantly. I'm using Spam Sieve so I'll probably have > to disable it in order to rule out an incompatability. there have been a recent update to SpamSieve for Tiger SignatureFrédérique & Hervé Sainct, h.sainct@laposte.net [fr,es,en,it] Frédérique's initial is missing in front of the above address l'initiale de Frédérique manque devant l'adresse email ci-dessus It is working fine for me here. Scott |
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