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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / February 2005Safari better with 10.3.8
The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel of death that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone.  SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com > The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel of death > that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. I'm still getting it in Safari with 10.3.8. SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X. Version 2.0: Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more. See http://www.atomicbird.com/ >> The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel >> of death that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. > I'm still getting it in Safari with 10.3.8. How much RAM do you have in the box? My life got much better - far fewer spinning colorwheels of despair - when I went from 256 MB to 768 MB of RAM. rick jones SignatureThe glass is neither half-empty nor half-full. The glass has a leak. The real question is "Can it be patched?" these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com but NOT BOTH... > >> The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel > >> of death that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > fewer spinning colorwheels of despair - when I went from 256 MB to 768 > MB of RAM. 1.25gb, but no change in hardware, just the 10.3.7 -> .8 update SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >> >> The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel >> >> of death that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> fewer spinning colorwheels of despair - when I went from 256 MB to 768 >> MB of RAM. > 1.25gb, but no change in hardware, just the 10.3.7 -> .8 update well.... so much for _that_ idea :) (unless you happen to have lots of stuff open I suppose) rick jones Signatureoxymoron n, commuter in a gas-guzzling luxury SUV with an American flag these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to raj in cup.hp.com but NOT BOTH... > >> The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel > >> of death that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > fewer spinning colorwheels of despair - when I went from 256 MB to 768 > MB of RAM. I've got 768MB. I do have a lot of stuff open most of the time, but if it were a question of swapping, I expect I'd (a) hear my disk drive (I always do), and (b) notice the problem in other applications. SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X. Version 2.0: Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more. See http://www.atomicbird.com/ >> The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel of >> death >> that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. > > I'm still getting it in Safari with 10.3.8. I get it on my 800mhz iBook (okay, not "death" but alot of spinning while working with Safari) but not on the mini or powerbook. All three systems had Panther loaded from scratch and updated to 10.3.8. All three systems have the exact same programs installed. The iBook has 640 ram, the mini 1gb ram, the pb 1.25gb ram. Testing the launch time & surf time of Safari on the ibook vs either of the other machines, with no other programs running, or with the exact same other programs running, still produces slow & spinning results on the ibook but not the others. I'm going out on a limb and guessing that launching Safari specifically, and working with Safari on various browsing uses less specifically, is very processor and/or memory dependent. The mini & pb both have faster processors and more ram than the ibook. SignatureTara > The update hasn't caused any problems, and the spinning pizza wheel of death > that frequently came to call when running Safari is gone. Well, I found that it'd just moved over to mozilla. ;-) It took a bit off experimenting to figure out why. The explanation turned out to be pages that included flash ads. Flash has always been a cpu eater, of course. But now it seems to automatically grab the entire cpu, and locks out all other apps, even the browser that it's running under. I've found and installed a flash blocker in firefox, which reduces its idle cpu usage to under 1%. I've heard a rumor that there's a flash blocker for mozilla, and when I find it, I'll install it, too. My idle mozilla currently uses between 10% and 15% of the cpu, and it'd be nice to get that down. Safari is only about 2%, but it's only showing news.google.com, which doesn't seem to send flash. I wonder if there are flash blockers for safari, camino, and all the other browsers that run on OSX? (I have 8 browsers installed right now. Useful if you're developing web stuff. ;-) The only thing I've noticed different with Safari recently is I've had 2 or 3 pop-up or pop-under ads. And I've had pop-up blocking turned on since Day 1. Have the spammers finally begun to outwit the pop-up blockers? _d > The only thing I've noticed different with Safari recently is I've had > 2 or 3 pop-up or pop-under ads. And I've had pop-up blocking turned on > since Day 1. Have the spammers finally begun to outwit the pop-up > blockers? Yes, I believe that is indeed the case. Several browsers under different operating system versions are now letting some pop up/under windows get through. SignatureAdrian > > The only thing I've noticed different with Safari recently is I've had > > 2 or 3 pop-up or pop-under ads. And I've had pop-up blocking turned on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > operating system versions are now letting some pop up/under windows get > through. There's an article and thread at MacFixit.com all about this issue. SignatureBarry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** > > The only thing I've noticed different with Safari recently is I've had > > 2 or 3 pop-up or pop-under ads. And I've had pop-up blocking turned on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > operating system versions are now letting some pop up/under windows get > through. Blockers stop pop-up windows only when a user event is not being directly processed. It's possibly to still open them during a user click. It may also be possible to fake user clicks in Safari. Once again, marketing morons think that annoying people is the best way to sell a product. I manually program OmniWeb to block ad sites that serve pop-up layers, sound, or flashing ads. Those familiar with UNIX can use ipfw the same way too. > > > The only thing I've noticed different with Safari recently is I've had > > > 2 or 3 pop-up or pop-under ads. And I've had pop-up blocking turned on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > serve pop-up layers, sound, or flashing ads. Those familiar with UNIX > can use ipfw the same way too. Is OmniWeb immune to the recent pop-up tricks? I've never used it except for quick trials, but if it managed this I might have to buy it. SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X. Version 2.0: Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more. See http://www.atomicbird.com/ |
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