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Crystal Quest (or Help Finding an Old Game)

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Alex Warofka - 28 Jan 2005 01:46 GMT
Hi, All,

I know this may seem like a somewhat strange question, but I was
wondering if anyone could help me track down an old Mac game.

I remember playing a game called "Crystal Quest" in elementary school
on the classroom Macintosh.  All of the students would rush to get
their books put away as soon as possible at the end of the day so they
could claim the computer to play this game for a few minutes before
they had to go wait for the bus.

The game involved piloting a little UFO-type object around with the
mouse and collecting all of the crystals on the screen without hitting
the walls or enemies and then navigating through a small hole in the
top (or was it the bottom?) of the screen before the timer ran out.

I remember really liking this game, but I didn't have a Mac of my own
at the time.  I managed to find a DOS clone of the game called "X
Quest," but it was never really the same.

Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
play it just to bring back some memories.

If anyone could find this for me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Alex Warofka
Doc O'Leary - 28 Jan 2005 02:27 GMT
> Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
> play it just to bring back some memories.

I don't know if it's playable on a modern Mac, but:

http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=game&id=33
Tom Harrington - 28 Jan 2005 05:35 GMT
> > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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> http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=game&id=33

Hm, but unfortunately the download link leads to a 404 error.

Would this be a legal download if it was working?  I've still got a
CD-ROM of Crystal Quest around somewhere.  If it could be legally
distributed, I wouldn't mind making a disk image or something.

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Gregory Weston - 28 Jan 2005 11:45 GMT
> > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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> CD-ROM of Crystal Quest around somewhere.  If it could be legally
> distributed, I wouldn't mind making a disk image or something.

a) I don't think it would be legal.
b) I haven't tried Crystal Quest, but Crystal Raider - the much later
follow-up is not playable within Classic. It's close, but no cigar.
c) I seem to recall a friend of mine reporting that Crystal Quest is
silent under recent pre-X Mac OS because the sound mechanism it's using
was desupported some time in the late 1990s.

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Gerry - 28 Jan 2005 15:03 GMT
> > > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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> silent under recent pre-X Mac OS because the sound mechanism it's using
> was desupported some time in the late 1990s.

The last release of Crystal Crazy, version 1.0.6, released in 1999,
fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on my
original beige G3 tower running OS 9.2.2.

Gerry
Cathy Stevenson - 28 Jan 2005 16:40 GMT
> > > > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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>
> Gerry

Crystal Crazy, only v. 1.0.3, plays in classic on my G4 running 10.3.7.
It has no sound, however.  I haven't tried playing it after booting in
9 - does yours have sound?

Cathy

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Gerry - 28 Jan 2005 17:05 GMT
> > The last release of Crystal Crazy, version 1.0.6, released in 1999,
> > fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on my
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>
> Cathy

Version 1.0.6 plays with sound under OS 9 on my G3 and under classic on
my G4 PowerBook running OS 10.3.7.

Gerry
Cathy Stevenson - 28 Jan 2005 22:22 GMT
> > > The last release of Crystal Crazy, version 1.0.6, released in 1999,
> > > fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on my
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>
> Gerry

After I read your post, I googled and tried lots of sites trying to
find the patches for my version.  The sound is fun - I love the
breaking glass - it contributes to the anger venting function of the
game.  I will keep looking for the patch.

Cathy

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Gerry - 28 Jan 2005 23:05 GMT
> > > > The last release of Crystal Crazy, version 1.0.6, released in 1999,
> > > > fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on my
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>
> Cathy

I don't know if a patch is available but the updated Crystal Crazy
version 1.0.6 can be found on the Casady & Greene's CD "Fun Bundle II",
which also contains Zone Warrior, Glider Pro CD, and Step On It!

I suspect this CD might show up on eBay, though it's not there now, I
checked.

Gerry
Cathy Stevenson - 28 Jan 2005 23:39 GMT
> > > > > The last release of Crystal Crazy, version 1.0.6, released in 1999,
> > > > > fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on
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> I suspect this CD might show up on eBay, though it's not there now, I
> checked.

Thanks. I remember those "Bundle" CDs from C&G.  I'll be on the lookout
for it.

Cathy

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Gregory Weston - 28 Jan 2005 22:24 GMT
> > > > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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> fixed the sound problem with PowerPC machines. It works just fine on my
> original beige G3 tower running OS 9.2.2.

Do you know where I could get that, or a patch from 1.03? I would dearly
love to have that game working again.

G

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Cathy Stevenson - 28 Jan 2005 23:37 GMT
> > > > > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > > > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able
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> Do you know where I could get that, or a patch from 1.03? I would dearly
> love to have that game working again.

I have done a lot of searching for the patch - no luck.

I am going to try downloading the demo and moving the sound files over
- that should at least give me sound in the first 9 waves, and it may
restore sound completely.

1.0.3 will play, but without sound.  I can play it in OS 10, but it
keeps messing up my Dock, and launching apps I haven't launched.
Hiding the Dock doesn't fix this (although it helps).  The game is so
much fun, I boot in 9 to play it.  I think it is the only thing I need
OS 9 for.  I used to boot in 9 to play the original LodeRunner (the Mad
Monks), but, since, I've played that start-to-finish at least 5 times,
it'll probably be another year before I want to play it again.

Cathy

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Gregory Weston - 28 Jan 2005 11:46 GMT
> > > Now that I do own a Mac, I was wondering if anyone could point me
> > > towards a downloadable copy of this old game.  I'd like to be able to
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> CD-ROM of Crystal Quest around somewhere.  If it could be legally
> distributed, I wouldn't mind making a disk image or something.

a) I don't think it would be legal.
b) I haven't tried Crystal Quest, but Crystal Crazy - the much later
follow-up is not playable within Classic. It's close, but no cigar.
c) I seem to recall a friend of mine reporting that Crystal Quest is
silent under recent pre-X Mac OS because the sound mechanism it's using
was desupported some time in the late 1990s.

(Superseded to correct the name of the sequel. I had actually referenced
an older product.)

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o-chan - 28 Jan 2005 16:37 GMT
>>Would this be a legal download if it was working?  I've still got a
>>CD-ROM of Crystal Quest around somewhere.  If it could be legally
>>distributed, I wouldn't mind making a disk image or something.
>
> a) I don't think it would be legal.

The legality is fuzzy.  In some cases the publishing company no longer
exists.  If no one "inherets" a software title, whose copyright rights
are you infringing upon?  In other cases the company no longer cares
about it and doesn't have anything to gain (like making money) by
stopping people from trading it.

In either case, if you contact mac.the-underdogs.com and upload the
file, _they_ will host it.  And there are several places on their site
that say "if someone with rights to this software wants it removed, we
will take it down".
Gerry - 28 Jan 2005 17:02 GMT
> >>Would this be a legal download if it was working?  I've still got a
> >>CD-ROM of Crystal Quest around somewhere.  If it could be legally
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> that say "if someone with rights to this software wants it removed, we
> will take it down".

The publisher Casady & Greene may be out of business but the game's
authors Patrick Buckland (Game Design) is the CEO & Co-Founder of the
British game company Stainless Games, Ltd. and Alasdair Klyne
(Programming & Internal Design) is Managing Director of Klynet IT
Solutions, Ltd. they may still have rights to the Crystal games.

Gerry
Gerry - 28 Jan 2005 02:41 GMT
> Hi, All,
>
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>
> Alex Warofka

Crystal Quest was very nicely updated by Crystal Crazy (The Quest
continues...) both were sold by Casady & Greene, which sadly has gone
out of business. I miss them very much as every year at MacWorld they
were always there with something new.

Do a search on "Crystal Crazy" and you will find many interesting sites.

Gerry
o-chan - 28 Jan 2005 02:46 GMT
> If anyone could find this for me I would greatly appreciate it.

Search this site:

http://mac.the-underdogs.org/

Unfortunately, the site is having problems and right now you can't
download anything, but keep checking back.

I also found this site:

http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html

If you do a search for "mac abandonware" or "system 6 games" you'll get
a lot of hits.  Just for kicks I downloaded the version of Tetris I
played on an SE30 15 years ago and it booted in classic and ran flawlessly!

Good luck.
Alex Warofka - 29 Jan 2005 03:35 GMT
>> If anyone could find this for me I would greatly appreciate it.
>
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>
> Good luck.

Wow, I never anticipated getting this many repsonses about this old
game!  Apparently a lot of other people have fond memories of it as
well.

Not having sound when running in Classic under OS X isn't an issue; I
have a number of old System 6 and 7 Macs lying about as I have become
something of a collector recently.

I will watch the Underdogs link and hope that it comes back online
soon.  I really appreciate everyone's responses.

Alex Warofka
Dave Balderstone - 29 Jan 2005 04:14 GMT
> I will watch the Underdogs link and hope that it comes back online
> soon.  I really appreciate everyone's responses.

I've got a demo version of CQ 2.2.5 (according to my catalog) archived
on CD. If you're interested let me know and I'll dig it out. Circa
1992.

djb

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Cathy Stevenson - 29 Jan 2005 18:54 GMT
> >> If anyone could find this for me I would greatly appreciate it.
> >
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>
> Alex Warofka

I have had no problem getting to the underdog site in the last two
days. It is working fine for me now.

Cathy

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