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Is this a memory problem?

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Newbie - 26 Jan 2005 21:53 GMT
I have a Ti G4 PB with 768 MB and OSX 10.3.7 . I have noticed in
activity monitor that "Inactive" memory often tops 300MB.

In fact, right now it is 339MB (others are Wired=75, Active=225,
Free=128).

Is this normal or does it indicate a problem? If the latter, is the
problem with hardware, OS, or the apps I am running?
matt neuburg - 26 Jan 2005 22:41 GMT
> I have a Ti G4 PB with 768 MB and OSX 10.3.7 . I have noticed in
> activity monitor that "Inactive" memory often tops 300MB.
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> Is this normal or does it indicate a problem?

I don't see any problem with it. The question is not the distribution of
your memory usage but the number / frequency of pageouts and how many
extra swapfiles you are generating; my MemoryStick app will tell you
that. m.

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Newbie - 27 Jan 2005 00:12 GMT
> > I have a Ti G4 PB with 768 MB and OSX 10.3.7 . I have noticed in
> > activity monitor that "Inactive" memory often tops 300MB.
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> how many extra swapfiles you are generating; my MemoryStick app
> will tell you that. m.

According to AM Page ins/outs = 428605/285292. Is that good
or bad?

Istarted to look into memory usage  because safari was acting too
slow, but I don't really know what I am looking for. :-)
Beelsebob - 26 Jan 2005 22:42 GMT
It simply means that the applications you are currently running don't
need all your memory - in fact, they are only using 225MB, (although an
additional 75 is earmarked as being likely to be used soon).

Bob
Newbie - 27 Jan 2005 00:17 GMT
> It simply means that the applications you are currently running don't
> need all your memory - in fact, they are only using 225MB, (although an
> additional 75 is earmarked as being likely to be used soon).

I wouldn't have worried if the unused memory was shown as "Free".
Instead the max chunk is Inactive. Sounds as if it is occupied but
doing nothing productive.

Right now I have:

WIRED=75, ACTIVE = 231, INACTIVE= 424, FREE= 37.

VM Size = 4.86 (GB), Pages in/out = 428609/285292.
Beelsebob - 27 Jan 2005 00:42 GMT
That's exactly right - memory marked as inactive is available for
paging out to disk... 37MB free is not really enough, and your page out
count is too high - You would probably do well with a little more RAM.

My system is good and responsive and I've got these stats:
PhysMem:   102M wired,  250M active,  469M inactive,  821M used,  202M
free
VM: 6.92G +    0B   47917(0) pageins, 150(0) pageouts

Note that page-ins are not in themselves bad, the system has to page
into RAM as it loads applications, the page-outs are when you run out
of memory and the system has to start using VM.

Bob
Newbie - 27 Jan 2005 03:08 GMT
> That's exactly right - memory marked as inactive is available for
> paging out to disk... 37MB free is not really enough, and your page out
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> into RAM as it loads applications, the page-outs are when you run out
> of memory and the system has to start using VM.

Thanks. I can see what was/is happenign. I had both Safari and Firefox
open for the purposes of comparison and they happen to be the biggest
memory hogs, 129 MB and 95 MB respectively.  Closing either one will
make the system breathe a lot easier.

There are other surprises. Meteorologist has balloned to 32 MB, I don't
know why, it's 5 MB when it starts.

Maybe one good solution is to restart some of these apps every once in
a while. They have been running for a few days.
richard schumacher - 29 Jan 2005 19:10 GMT
> That's exactly right - memory marked as inactive is available for
> paging out to disk... 37MB free is not really enough, and your page out
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> into RAM as it loads applications, the page-outs are when you run out
> of memory and the system has to start using VM.

And that exercises the hard drive more, which both wears it out faster
and increases the likelihood that the head will be in use during a power
glitch, which can cause a destructive crash.

When the number of pageouts over time is anywhere near the number of
pageins (as in the original poster's case), installing more RAM would be
helpful.
 
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