Hi All,
I'm doing some research for my girlfriend, and she's looking at Garage
Band for recording some of her songs. It's mainly acoustical guitar,
solo vocal, and maybe a bass or keyboard for some songs.
Okay, my questions...
I know Garage Band will do the instruments, but what about vocals?
How do the instruments plug into the Mac? Will we need a sound board,
mixer, or something for all the components to plug into, or is there
something that's 'garage band aware' that we can plug into so it'll
pick-up each instrument as a different track?
Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions. We're mainly looking
for something basic to record music with just to get some demo CD's
created. We have a PowerMac G4 (dual-867/768 Megs Ram) and we're
looking at possibly going with the new Mac Mini for this since the
PowerMac is actually mine and in my office. She'd use the Mini in her
music room.
Thanks again and take care,
Ringo
Danielle Leo - 12 Jan 2005 16:43 GMT
I got the iMac and accompanying GarageBand/iLife suite last October.
GarageBand is a great program, but it requires more than just investing
in the program itself. I, too, wanted to use it for vocals and guitar.
First, I recommned picking up a USB interface, because the guitar (any
guitar, trust me) has poor pickup using just the line-in port on the
computer. I recmomend Griffin iMic, because it's the cheapest solution
(at 40 clams, mind you).
Furthermore, if she's going to want to edit her own drums and bass into
the tracks, she'll probably wind up getting a cheap MIDI keyboard to
plug into the computer. I recommned the M-audio keystation, which set
the musician back another hundred clams. Expensive and mildly
inconvenient to have to shop for the extras, but with the two
aforementioned accessories in her possession, GarageBand is the bomb.
Once she starts tinkering with and editing music, it'll become quite
addictive, and probably sell her on shelling out extra $ for the jam
packs and such.
> Hi All,
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> Ringo
Lou Pecora - 12 Jan 2005 19:51 GMT
> Furthermore, if she's going to want to edit her own drums and bass into
> the tracks, she'll probably wind up getting a cheap MIDI keyboard to
> plug into the computer.
Pardon the question. I'm not up on all this. Why would you want to get
a MIDI keyboard to edit/record drums and bass? Maybe I'm missing
something. I've just used a pair of mics to record instruments through
a preamp (M-audio) and put them on other tracks.
I understand that MIDI will make the tracks digital and thereby enable
more tweaking, but how does the keyboard help record drums and bass?
Thanks for any insight.
-- Lou Pecora (my views are my own)
Gerry - 13 Jan 2005 15:50 GMT
> In article <2005011211433716807%madpercolator@gmailcom>,
Danielle Leo <madpercolator@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Furthermore, if she's going to want to edit her own drums and bass
> > into the tracks, she'll probably wind up getting a cheap MIDI
> > keyboard to plug into the computer.
>
> Pardon the question. I'm not up on all this. Why would you want to
> get a MIDI keyboard to edit/record drums and bass?
It's convenient. One key is the bass drum, another is the cymbal,
another the snare.
> Maybe I'm missing something. I've just used a pair of mics to
> record instruments through a preamp (M-audio) and put them on other
> tracks.
Well you can use live instruments or you can use audio samples of ones
triggered by a keyboard.
> I understand that MIDI will make the tracks digital and thereby
> enable more tweaking, but how does the keyboard help record drums and
> bass?
They're not *real* drums and bass, but synth/sample varieties that live
on the disk and in the software.

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Lou Pecora - 16 Jan 2005 13:33 GMT
> > I understand that MIDI will make the tracks digital and thereby
> > enable more tweaking, but how does the keyboard help record drums and
> > bass?
>
> They're not *real* drums and bass, but synth/sample varieties that live
> on the disk and in the software.
Got it. Thanks.
-- Lou Pecora (my views are my own)
learner - 28 May 2005 02:30 GMT
Does GarageBand 2 do MIDI - can you import an existing MIDI file, edit
it and play it back?
Reginald Dwight - 28 May 2005 02:35 GMT
> Does GarageBand 2 do MIDI
MIDI in only. No MIDI out. Maybe v.3.0
>can you import an existing MIDI file, edit
> it and play it back?
Yep.
matt neuburg - 12 Jan 2005 18:08 GMT
> I know Garage Band will do the instruments, but what about vocals?
> How do the instruments plug into the Mac?
Sounds like you should read this:
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/garageband-recording.html>
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Scudder - 12 Jan 2005 18:33 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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>
> Ringo
GarageBand is a remarkably capable program, and GarageBand 2
(announced yesterday) is even better. It's capabilities go way beyond
what is publicized by Apple.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/garageband/
I's suggest getting a copy of David Pogue's excellent "Missing Manual"
for GarageBand. It will alert your girlfriend to all sorts of tricks
and techniques which the meager documentation that comes with GB
doesn't touch.
You'll need some external devices. There are cheap gadgets out there --
which work OK -- but I highly recommend interfaces from M-Audio. The
ideal would be M-Audio's FirewireSolo which has mic inputs (including
XLR type connectors) but it's up to your gf how much she wants to
spend. There are cheaper USB interfaces out there, but if your gf "gets
the bug" a few extra dollars spent now will be a worthwhile investment.
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=mobileinterfaces
Also, you'll need a MIDI controller/keyboard. Again, I highly recommend
any of the M-Audio controller keyboards, which can be had for $100-$300
and will unleash great abilities in GB.
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=maudiocontrollers
Also, many M-Audio keyboard controllers come with a free copy of Reason
Adapted -- a stripped down version of Reason. Reason (although it has a
fairly steep learning curve) is a truly remarkable piece of software...
you can create amazing sounds and textures with this thing, and it
works with GB via a thing called ReWire (included), which is basically
a way for one program to work seamlessly with another. Simply put, GB
can control Reason, and open up a huge world of sound to your GB
efforts.
http://www.propellerheads.se/
Finally, if you're getting a Mac mini, I'd suggest to max it out (1GB)
of RAM -- of course, don't buy memory from Apple -- as any music
software, including GB, thrives on RAM. And whatever monitor you get
for the Mac mini, make it BIG... again, music software is best used on
the biggest screen you can find. Also, the Mac mini has a 2.5" 5400rpm
internal hard drive which isn't ideal... you might want to consider an
external 200GB+ fire wire drive. Of course, by the time you've priced
all this stuff, you might want to just get an iMac G5.
Good luck!
Lou Pecora - 12 Jan 2005 19:47 GMT
> Okay, my questions...
> I know Garage Band will do the instruments, but what about vocals?
> How do the instruments plug into the Mac? Will we need a sound board,
> mixer, or something for all the components to plug into, or is there
> something that's 'garage band aware' that we can plug into so it'll
> pick-up each instrument as a different track?
I suspect a mixer (with it's own or other amplification will work well
for vocals). I found that plugging a mic right into the Mac audio in
will not work well (signal is usually low).
I bought an M-Audio preamp (2 channel) that goes into the USB port.
Works well. For a rock band we hear music and vocals clearly. We are
hobbyists and did not take care with the acoustics, but it recorded
well, anyway.
You can probably also use line out from a PA system (careful that the
voltages are in line with what the Mac expects on audio in). For me it
was worth a few mics and stands and the preamp. Then I just adjust the
preamp during a sound check.
I've liked GarageBand, but have yet to learn all the ins and out. It's
a cool program. Not professional level, I'm sure, but good for getting
started or weekend rock stars like us. :-)
-- Lou Pecora (my views are my own)
Steve Hix - 12 Jan 2005 23:37 GMT
> Hi All,
>
> I'm doing some research for my girlfriend, and she's looking at Garage
> Band for recording some of her songs. It's mainly acoustical guitar,
> solo vocal, and maybe a bass or keyboard for some songs.
Wait until Jan 22. Garageband 2 ships then.
> Okay, my questions...
> I know Garage Band will do the instruments, but what about vocals?
Yes.
> How do the instruments plug into the Mac? Will we need a sound board,
> mixer, or something for all the components to plug into, or is there
> something that's 'garage band aware' that we can plug into so it'll
> pick-up each instrument as a different track?
http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/accessories.html
Go read Apple's Garageband pages.
> Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions. We're mainly looking
> for something basic to record music with just to get some demo CD's
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>
> Ringo
Reginald Dwight - 13 Jan 2005 05:22 GMT
> Wait until Jan 22. Garageband 2 ships then.
AFAIK it should *arrive* on the 22nd if you ordered it. 22nd is when it
hits the stores but they mail ahead to get it to people on the release
date.