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Pierre Chatel - 21 Aug 2004 22:04 GMT
Hi,

I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
and noticed that safari was incredibly slow over dialup ! Whereas
firefox opens pages before they are totaly downloaded.

So i want all the http links (like in mails or with quicksilver) to
open directly in firefox...

Btw, do u know why safari is acting like that ? I know he is famously
fast over dsl/broadband but did they use a 'quicksort' like (sorry for
the loosy comparaison) algorithm that is acting like crazy over a
limited set of input (slow connection in this case...) :-)

Thanks
Tom Stiller - 21 Aug 2004 21:31 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
> and noticed that safari was incredibly slow over dialup ! Whereas
> firefox opens pages before they are totaly downloaded.

Safari->Preferences->General and select the browser you want.

> So i want all the http links (like in mails or with quicksilver) to
> open directly in firefox...
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> the loosy comparaison) algorithm that is acting like crazy over a
> limited set of input (slow connection in this case...) :-)

Dunno.

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Barry Margolin - 21 Aug 2004 21:41 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
> and noticed that safari was incredibly slow over dialup ! Whereas
> firefox opens pages before they are totaly downloaded.

In Safari's preferences you can set the default browser.

> So i want all the http links (like in mails or with quicksilver) to
> open directly in firefox...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the loosy comparaison) algorithm that is acting like crazy over a
> limited set of input (slow connection in this case...) :-)

I recently downloaded a utility called SafariSpeed that's supposed to
help with this.

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Johan W. Elzenga - 22 Aug 2004 00:21 GMT
> > I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> > safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
> > and noticed that safari was incredibly slow over dialup ! Whereas
> > firefox opens pages before they are totaly downloaded.
>
> In Safari's preferences you can set the default browser.

This is one of Apple's mysterious ways of making MacOS X more
intuitive... Even Bill Gates couldn't have made it more silly.

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Barry Margolin - 22 Aug 2004 03:43 GMT
> > > I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> > > safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
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> This is one of Apple's mysterious ways of making MacOS X more
> intuitive... Even Bill Gates couldn't have made it more silly.

Actually, I've always felt that Windows's use of the "Internet" control
panel for all of IE's preferences (including things like deleting
cookies and caches) is similarly counterintuitive.

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Johan W. Elzenga - 22 Aug 2004 10:12 GMT
> > > > I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> > > > safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup connection
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> panel for all of IE's preferences (including things like deleting
> cookies and caches) is similarly counterintuitive.

I disagree. It may be a control panel, but you normally open it from the
'Extra' menu in Explorer, so most people wouldn't even know that it's a
control panel. It looks like just another preferences window, and that's
the way it should be. It doesn't really matter if it's a control panel,
as long as it doesn't bother or confuse people, but works as you'd
expect it to work. That's what 'intuitive' means, if you ask me.

But changing the default browser in the preferences of Safari is utterly
silly. What if you want to change those settings because Safari crashes
on you?... Catch 22!

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Doc O'Leary - 22 Aug 2004 11:08 GMT
> But changing the default browser in the preferences of Safari is utterly
> silly. What if you want to change those settings because Safari crashes
> on you?... Catch 22!

Why don't you instead ride the a.s of Firefox developers for not putting
in a similar "make me default" preference?  All Apple did was change
where the setting got made from system-level for a few specific URL
schemes to app-level for their arbitrary URL schemes.  It's not Safari
that's acting un-Mac-like (except for that terrible brushed metal! :-).
Johan W. Elzenga - 22 Aug 2004 14:19 GMT
> > But changing the default browser in the preferences of Safari is utterly
> > silly. What if you want to change those settings because Safari crashes
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> schemes to app-level for their arbitrary URL schemes.  It's not Safari
> that's acting un-Mac-like (except for that terrible brushed metal! :-).

I disagree. The default browser should be a system-level setting, as it
was with OSX 10.2. It's not a Safari-specific preference.

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Pierre Chatel - 22 Aug 2004 17:36 GMT
>>> But changing the default browser in the preferences of Safari is utterly
>>> silly. What if you want to change those settings because Safari crashes
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> I disagree. The default browser should be a system-level setting, as it
> was with OSX 10.2. It's not a Safari-specific preference.

i tend to agree ! :-)
Btw thanks for the answers...
Barry Margolin - 27 Aug 2004 22:54 GMT
> I disagree. The default browser should be a system-level setting, as it
> was with OSX 10.2. It's not a Safari-specific preference.

Unfortunately, Apple seemed to get this wrong in a couple of places in
Panther.  They made the same mistake with the default mail client: the
setting is in Mail.app.

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Johan W. Elzenga - 28 Aug 2004 23:40 GMT
> > I disagree. The default browser should be a system-level setting, as it
> > was with OSX 10.2. It's not a Safari-specific preference.
>
> Unfortunately, Apple seemed to get this wrong in a couple of places in
> Panther.  They made the same mistake with the default mail client: the
> setting is in Mail.app.

Fortunately, there is a freeware Preference Pane called "Default Apps"
that corrects this mistake.

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Barry Margolin - 22 Aug 2004 11:40 GMT
> > > > > I'm wondering how could i switch the default internet browser from
> > > > > safari to firefox. I'm actually in travel with only a dialup
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> 'Extra' menu in Explorer, so most people wouldn't even know that it's a
> control panel.

I didn't realize there was another way to get to it -- I've always
opened it from the control panels.

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Johan W. Elzenga - 22 Aug 2004 14:19 GMT
> > > Actually, I've always felt that Windows's use of the "Internet" control
> > > panel for all of IE's preferences (including things like deleting
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> I didn't realize there was another way to get to it -- I've always
> opened it from the control panels.

I didn't even realize it's a control panel until you said so. I always
open it from Explorer, since that is the logical thing to do.  ;-)

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Alice Faber - 22 Aug 2004 16:07 GMT
> > > > Actually, I've always felt that Windows's use of the "Internet" control
> > > > panel for all of IE's preferences (including things like deleting
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I didn't even realize it's a control panel until you said so. I always
> open it from Explorer, since that is the logical thing to do.  ;-)

Since I don't use Windows that much, I was at first hopelessly confused
when the control panel and the IE menu option gave me exactly the same
set of options!

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