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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / December 2008How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X
I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at <http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides instructions for building an OS X version of SimpleText using Xcode Tools: The question of a native version of SimpleText for Mac OS X came up in another article discussion, so we thought we'd post the information here, too, for all to see. SimpleText for Mac OS X exists and has for some time. Here's how you get it. Skip step #1 if you already have Xcode 2 installed. 1. From Mac OS X Tiger's install DVD, install XCode Tools. 2. Navigate to Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/ 3. Double-click SimpleText.xcode to launch Xcode and click "Build," wait a moment while it does its thing. 4. In Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/build/ you will find the 176KB SimpleText.app (version 1.6) native for Mac OS X. Drag it to your Applications folder like any other application. Plop it in your Dock if you like. Classic not required. Obviously, it's a bit outdated, but I decided to download the most-current version of the Tools (Xcode 3.1.2 Developer Tools) from the Apple Development Connection (<https://connect.apple.com>) and give it a try. Unfortunately, the above instructions seem to be Tiger-specific, and I can't figure out how to use Xcode to "build" SimpleText in Leopard. Can anyone shed some light on this?  SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) > I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at ><http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides > instructions for building an OS X version of SimpleText using Xcode Tools: > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? > The question of a native version of SimpleText for Mac OS X came up in > another article discussion, so we thought we'd post the information here, > too, for all to see. SimpleText for Mac OS X exists and has for some time. > Here's how you get it. Skip step #1 if you already have Xcode 2 installed. > 1. From Mac OS X Tiger's install DVD, install XCode Tools. > 2. Navigate to Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/ > 3. Double-click SimpleText.xcode to launch Xcode and click "Build," wait a > moment while it does its thing. > 4. In Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/build/ you will find the 176KB > SimpleText.app (version 1.6) native for Mac OS X. > Drag it to your Applications folder like any other application. Plop it in > your Dock if you like. Classic not required. > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? > Obviously, it's a bit outdated, but I decided to download the most-current > version of the Tools (Xcode 3.1.2 Developer Tools) from the Apple > Development Connection (<https://connect.apple.com>) and give it a try. > Unfortunately, the above instructions seem to be Tiger-specific, and I can't > figure out how to use Xcode to "build" SimpleText in Leopard. > Can anyone shed some light on this? I haven't tried it, but the main problem is that recent versions of Xcode do not include the SimpleText project in their Developer/Examples/Carbon folder. At least some versions of Xcode 2.x did have that folder. I don't know exactly when it was dropped. You can go to developer.apple.com, click on "ADC Member Site" at the top of the page, and register for a free ADC Online Member Account if you don't already have one. Then you can log in, click on "downloads", and then select "Developer Tools". You will find every version of Xcode, and its predecessor "Developer Tools", all the way back to 1.0. It's possible to install just the examples without installing the entire Xcode package. If you have the SimpleText project, it should be possible to build it, perhaps with minor modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2. SignatureDave Seaman Third Circuit ignores precedent in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling. <http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/03/29/18489281.php> >> I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at >> <http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > package. If you have the SimpleText project, it should be possible to > build it, perhaps with minor modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2. When I went to the ADC site to download Xcode , I only saw v3.1.2. But I just went back, and saw the list of download topics on the right, which included "Developer Tools." Sure enough, I did find the previous versions. Unfortunately, it didn't work: I downloaded v2.2. I then decided to remove v3.1.2, to start with a "clean slate," and installed v2.2. When I double-clicked SimpleText.xcode in Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/, I received the dialog "You cannot use this application with this version of OS X." You mentioned that I should be able to do the build "perhaps with minor modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2." So, I might try to save the Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/ folder, reinstall v3.1.2, and try the build again. However, the dialog I received sure did sound like nothing in v2.2 would work with Leopard -- unless you have a "minor modifications" suggestion in mind. SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) Hey, I found the source code here http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/ compiled it, and it works with leopard:-) so here's the app fired up and ready to go http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/38631/SimpleText.zip -Rikard In article 61cefba8-c254-4033-814c-06cecd340d3e@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, Rikard at rikard@gmail.com wrote on 11/30/08 5:54 PM: > Hey, I found the source code here > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Rikard I hadn't noticed WidgetPhreak's post. Are you saying that http://widget.glixisdead.com/old/SimpleText.zip enabled you to build SimpleText? Can you explain to me the steps you took to do it? SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) On Dec 1, 12:08 am, Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > In article > 61cefba8-c254-4033-814c-06cecd340...@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, Rikard at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I hadn't noticed WidgetPhreak's post. Are you saying thathttp://widget.glixisdead.com/old/SimpleText.zipenabled you to build > SimpleText? Can you explain to me the steps you took to do it? Yep, exactly. I have a Macbook 2.1 GHz (not the latest ones, I bought this one like six months ago) with Mac OS 10.5.5. I've got Xcode 3.1. Can't recollect if I downloaded the Developers kit with BitTorrent or if the thing was there when I bought the computer, you probably know better than me. 1. I downloaded the zipfile from this place http://widget.glixisdead.com/old/SimpleText.zip 2. Started Xcode 3. Opened SimpleText.xcodeproj 4. Clicked the "Build and Go" button 5. Tada! SimpleText.app I have no experience with Xcode so I can't really give you a sophisticated answer. Cheers Rikard >>> I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at >>> <http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> package. If you have the SimpleText project, it should be possible to >> build it, perhaps with minor modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2. > When I went to the ADC site to download Xcode , I only saw v3.1.2. But I > just went back, and saw the list of download topics on the right, which > included "Developer Tools." Sure enough, I did find the previous versions. > Unfortunately, it didn't work: > I downloaded v2.2. I then decided to remove v3.1.2, to start with a "clean > slate," and installed v2.2. When I double-clicked SimpleText.xcode in > Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/, I received the dialog "You cannot use > this application with this version of OS X." Yes, that's why I said: >> It's >> possible to install just the examples without installing the entire Xcode >> package. If you have the SimpleText project, it should be possible to >> build it, perhaps with minor modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2. My suggestion was to get the project from an older Xcode, and then try to build it using Xcode 3.1.2. > You mentioned that I should be able to do the build "perhaps with minor > modifications, under Xcode 3.1.2." So, I might try to save the > Developer/Examples/Carbon/SimpleText/ folder, reinstall v3.1.2, and try the > build again. However, the dialog I received sure did sound like nothing in > v2.2 would work with Leopard -- unless you have a "minor modifications" > suggestion in mind. You can't use the Xcode 2.2 application under Leopard, but the stuff in the Examples folder is not a part of the Xcode 2.2 application. Those are just sample code projects that you can try to build on your own, or perhaps find ideas that you can use in your own projects. I haven't tried the SimpleText build with 3.1.2, but it is generally possible to port projects from older versions of Xcode to newer ones, perhaps with minor modifications. After all, most existing Mac applications were developed using some older version of Xcode and have since been ported to newer versions. SignatureDave Seaman Third Circuit ignores precedent in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling. <http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/03/29/18489281.php> >>>> I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" >>>> (at [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > applications were developed using some older version of Xcode and have > since been ported to newer versions. OK...so my thought about reinstalling 3.1.2 and using it to do the actual build was what you had in mind all along. BTW: Did you see Rikard's post? SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) > OK...so my thought about reinstalling 3.1.2 and using it to do the actual > build was what you had in mind all along. > BTW: Did you see Rikard's post? Not until just now. SignatureDave Seaman Third Circuit ignores precedent in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling. <http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/03/29/18489281.php> > I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at > <http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides > instructions for building an OS X version of SimpleText using Xcode Tools: I have a question: Why? Aren't there enough text readers out there? Why does anyone need SimpleText for OS X? SignatureD.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com This time _we_ won. This time _you_ get over it. >> I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" (at >> <http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7077/>), which provides [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Aren't there enough text readers out there? Why does anyone need > SimpleText for OS X? I have a whole slew of (misidentified) "executable" files scattered across my HD, originally files from an old OS 9 machine that I copied to my current iMac. Despite the fact that a lot of them I know were SimpleText files, they don't open, and when I attempt to force them to open in TextEdit, they don't render properly. So, I thought they might open "naturally" and "correctly" with an OS X version of SimpleText. SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) > >> I came across a 3-year-old article, "How to get SimpleText for Mac OS X" > >> (at [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > render properly. So, I thought they might open "naturally" and "correctly" > with an OS X version of SimpleText. If you'll send me one of these files, I'll see if I can tell you what's going on. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > I have a whole slew of (misidentified) "executable" files scattered across > my HD, originally files from an old OS 9 machine that I copied to my current > iMac. Despite the fact that a lot of them I know were SimpleText files, they > don't open, and when I attempt to force them to open in TextEdit, they don't > render properly. So, I thought they might open "naturally" and "correctly" > with an OS X version of SimpleText. They are not text files. Often OS 9 identified unopenable PC files (like viruses) with the SimpleText icon. Signaturem-m http://www.mhmyers.com In article nospam.m-m-2C65C6.11561901122008@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at nospam.m-m@ny.more wrote on 12/1/08 11:56 AM: >> I have a whole slew of (misidentified) "executable" files scattered across >> my HD, originally files from an old OS 9 machine that I copied to my current [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They are not text files. Often OS 9 identified unopenable PC files (like > viruses) with the SimpleText icon. Many of them have names that correspond to documents I created in SimpleText. In fact, because I purposely had made duplicate copies of a number of them and stored them on different media (external HD, flash drives, ISP's server), I have multiple copies on my iMac, and some of them _do_ render properly if I use TextEdit to open them. SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) > In article > nospam.m-m-2C65C6.11561901122008@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > drives, ISP's server), I have multiple copies on my iMac, and some of them > _do_ render properly if I use TextEdit to open them. Any chance that these are resource forks that have become separated from the original data structure? SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF >> In article >> nospam.m-m-2C65C6.11561901122008@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Any chance that these are resource forks that have become separated from > the original data structure? How could I tell? (I've seen folders containing items that clearly were errant resource folks, but they looked nothing like these.) SignatureiMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) OS X (10.5.4) > >> In article > >> nospam.m-m-2C65C6.11561901122008@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > How could I tell? (I've seen folders containing items that clearly were > errant resource folks, but they looked nothing like these.) A lot of Windows executable program files have the words "This program cannot be run in DOS mode." within the first few bytes of the file. Other file types store similar indications of the type of file within the first few bytes as well. For instance, JPEG documents will usually have the characters "JFIF" at the beginning. So open the file in a plain text or hex editor, and examine the first few bytes. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > Many of them have names that correspond to documents I created in > SimpleText. In fact, because I purposely had made duplicate copies of a > number of them and stored them on different media (external HD, flash > drives, ISP's server), I have multiple copies on my iMac, and some of them > _do_ render properly if I use TextEdit to open them. Nick- I downloaded Rikard's compiled SimpleText.app. It seems to work OK, but I haven't dug up any old SimpleText files to be sure. A sample file saved from SimpleText.app could be opened by TextEdit, but could then only be saved-as an .RTF file. This is similar to my experience with editing old SimpleText files. It points out that Apple's old version of a "text" file differed from most others. When converting older Macintosh text files to work with Windows or newer Macintosh machines, I've had some success by adding the .DOC suffix to the filename and using Microsoft Word to open them. Every one I tried was opened correctly by Word in the target system. I expect Pages, OpenOffice and NeoOffice would also be able to open them with the .DOC suffix. Fred > Aren't there enoughtextreaders out there? Why does anyone need > SimpleText forOSX? For me, most text editors have way to much functionality. SimpleText is constrained in a good way, it doesn't distract you with complexity, and I like that when I write stuff, not code but documents. And it sees everything as raw text, it doesn't try to convert and render it. Besides SimpleText (or TeachText as it was first named) was there long before the rest of the pack, it was part of Mac OS 1.0 http://www.computerhovel.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/main.gif But hey everyone has their own favorites, I'm just glad mine returned from oblivion yesterday, I've waited a long time for this. -Rikard > > Aren't there enoughtextreaders out there? Why does anyone need > > SimpleText forOSX? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Rikard For some reason the last link disappeared, weirdos. Here's from a more serious Mac aficionado: http://lowendmac.com/conachey/05/sys1art/sys-folder.gif |
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