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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / July 2008Thank God for the new Apple Updates!
They addresses everything I'd hoped for: "This update improves overall stability and addresses a number of other minor issues. It is recommended for all users of [INSERT PROGRAM NAME HERE]. That's what I've been yearning for from iWeb, iTunes, iLife, iWork, I-and-I and I-for-an-I. And it's here, thank Jesus, it's here!  SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > They addresses everything I'd hoped for: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And it's here, thank Jesus, it's here! *yawn* SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >> They addresses everything I'd hoped for: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > *yawn* It would really be nice if they could commit to have changed ANYthing specific... SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > >> They addresses everything I'd hoped for: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > Thank you and have a nice day. Thank the lawyers for preventing any statement of commitment. > It would really be nice if they could commit to have changed ANYthing > specific... If you are talking about the brief abstract that appears in Software Update, doesn't it also have the URI of a web page that goes into much more detail? If you're talking about something else, what are you talking about? SignatureWes Groleau ----------- Curmudgeon's Complaints on Courtesy: http://www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy1.html (Not necessarily my opinion, but worth reading) >> It would really be nice if they could commit to have changed ANYthing >> specific... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > If you're talking about something else, what are you talking about? I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > >> It would really be nice if they could commit to have changed ANYthing > >> specific... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker > and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. Not necessarily. Anyon can add entries to VersionTracker and MacUpdate. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >>> If you are talking about the brief abstract that appears >>> in Software Update, doesn't it also have the URI of a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Not necessarily. Anyon can add entries to VersionTracker and MacUpdate. "Not necessarily" is correct. The descriptive text provided by VersionTracker and MacinTouch is culled straight off Apple's website. For instance: > • iLife Support 8.3
iLife Support provides system software > components shared by all iLife '08 applications. This update improves [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > improves overall stability, and addresses a number of other minor > issues. [Req. QuickTime 7.5 and Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later] But the "not necessarily" is still true: Someone may have hacked their way into the Apple site 10 minutes after they made the files available and removed detailed lists of bug-fixes replacing with the generic lines. It's possible! SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > But the "not necessarily" is still true: Someone may have hacked their > way into the Apple site 10 minutes after they made the files available > and removed detailed lists of bug-fixes replacing with the generic > lines. It's possible! You mean that might have happened? Sheesh! Here's how you know it didn't. The world's media--audio, video, and print--did not drop all other stories and devote entire programs or print issues to Apple being hacked. Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite were not brought back to provide minute-by-minute coverage. Rush didn't blame the Jews, the handicapped, African Americans, or so-called liberals. The McBush crowd didn't start a smear campaign blaming that Muslim terrorist Obama. Fox "News" didn't have to call in extra liars to augment the ones they have. Cheney didn't blame Iran. Iran didn't blame Zionists. Nobody blamed Bill or Hillary. Al Gore isn't working on a new movie. Bin Laden didn't release a taped statement saying it was the will of Allah. And Dubya won't learn about it a few weeks from now. That's how you know that Apple's web site wasn't hacked. Davoud SignatureDon't re-elect the past. Vote for the future: Obama in 2008! usenet *at* davidillig dawt com > But the "not necessarily" is still true: Someone may have hacked their > way into the Apple site 10 minutes after they made the files available > and removed detailed lists of bug-fixes replacing with the generic > lines. It's possible! Certainly possible. For example, Apple's marketing people might hack into the explanatory messages that go with various software upgrades and replace them with canned sales pitches for the associated software. See example below, from earlier this year: ============================== Two roughly 50 MB software updates appeared on my MacBook Tiger desktop yesterday: QuickTime 7.4.5 and iTunes 7.6.2. As you select each of these, a message explaining why the update is needed or what it will do appears in a box lower down in the update window. Here's the explanatory message for QuickTime 7.4.5: > QuickTime 7.4.5 includes fixes that enhance reliability, improve > compatibility with third-party applications, and address security issues. > This release is recommended for all QuickTime 7 users. > > For detailed information on the security content of this update, please visit > this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798. And here's the complete "explanatory" message for iTunes 7.6.2: > Rent and download your favorite movies with iTunes on your computer or > directly to your living room on Apple TV. Enjoy rented movies in sizes up to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > iTunes 7.6.2 provides bug fixes to improve stability and performance. ============================================ > I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker > and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. You're blaming Apple for versiontracker's choosing to print the summary instead of the details? SignatureWes Groleau Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise according to his own conceit. -- Solomon Are you saying there's no good way to answer a fool? -- Groleau >> I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker >> and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. > > You're blaming Apple for versiontracker's choosing to print the summary > instead of the details? I'll blame Apple too for providing only the summary for verstiontracker to duplicate. I suppose someone may have hacked into your conclusion too, while we're at the "all things imaginable must be true" part of thread de-generastion. I'm only proposing one thing directly: the thread will live on without me. SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > >> I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker > >> and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'll blame Apple too for providing only the summary for verstiontracker > to duplicate. Yet Apple also provides the detailed description. Which Versiontracker also has access to, and chose to not publish. I can't recall any time in recent years when a pointer to the detailed description wasn't published at the same time the summary was released. > > >> I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker > > >> and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yet Apple also provides the detailed description. Which Versiontracker > also has access to, and chose to not publish. Are you sure about that? I went so far as to download the DMG and saw no more details anywhere! SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > Yet Apple also provides the detailed description. Which Versiontracker > also has access to, and chose to not publish. Where is this? I just spent some time trying to find it by Google and by looking at Apple webpages. I'm not saying it isn't there, but it doesn't seem to be easy for a causual user to find. >>>> I'm talking about the indication of change provided by Versiontracker >>>> and MacInTouch, when ostensibly comes from Apple. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I can't recall any time in recent years when a pointer to the detailed > description wasn't published at the same time the summary was released. I guess they hide it real good too. I couldn't find it on their support site. SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > They addresses everything I'd hoped for: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And it's here, thank Jesus, it's here! It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates have once again resolved SFA. Still - it's an update to MobileMe that is really needed - I'm fairly certain now it is at fault for my recent severe slowdowns. SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates > have once again resolved SFA. And your system and console logs show no errors? SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates > > have once again resolved SFA. > > And your system and console logs show no errors? I'm seeing an awful lot of these: 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86539] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Conte nts/MacOS/GrowlSafariLoader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86539] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86539] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86539] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86540] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Conte nts/MacOS/GrowlSafariLoader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86540] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86540] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:39 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86540] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:49 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86542] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Conte nts/MacOS/GrowlSafariLoader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac OS/GrowlSafariLoader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:49 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86542] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Chax/Chax.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Chax: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:49 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86542] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/Ecamm/Ecamm Plugin Loader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Ecamm Plugin Loader: GC capability mismatch 24/07/08 3:03:49 PM PerianUpdateChecker[86542] Error loading /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: dlopen(/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL, 265): no suitable image found. Did find: /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: GC capability mismatch SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates > > > have once again resolved SFA. > > > > And your system and console logs show no errors? I'm also seeing: 24/07/08 3:18:39 PM rcd[85927] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x155a50 of class NSConcreteMapTableValueEnumerator autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking Stack: (0x94c88cdf 0x94b95562 0x94c37a6c 0x905b4393 0x92b4f7f0 0x91bb67fb 0x91bb68ee 0x91bb1635 0x91bd5908 0x91bd5d54 0x3b01) When I unmount disk images which is causing minutes of beachballs and a totally hung system some of the time. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > > > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Stack: (0x94c88cdf 0x94b95562 0x94c37a6c 0x905b4393 0x92b4f7f0 > 0x91bb67fb 0x91bb68ee 0x91bb1635 0x91bd5908 0x91bd5d54 0x3b01) Apparently, rcd is the daemon that listens for commands from your Front Row remote control. It's supposed to invoke AppleScript applets/scripts when you press buttons on the remote. Apparently, it's got a memory leak. Do you use your Front Row remote often? > When I unmount disk images which is causing minutes of beachballs and a > totally hung system some of the time. Are you saying the above rcd error message is logged only in response to you unmounting disk images? If so, that seems peculiar. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > > > > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > > > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Do you use your Front Row remote often? Maybe once every couple weeks. > > When I unmount disk images which is causing minutes of beachballs and a > > totally hung system some of the time. > > Are you saying the above rcd error message is logged only in response to > you unmounting disk images? If so, that seems peculiar. I could be wrong, but it seems so. SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >>> It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands >>> of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > /Library/InputManagers/SIMBL/SIMBL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SIMBL: GC > capability mismatch You might try dumping, Growl, ne? SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > /Library/InputManagers/GrowlSafari/GrowlSafariLoader.bundle/Contents/Mac > OS/GrowlSafariLoader: GC capability mismatch (snip) *blink* You're aware that Mac OS X has Input Manager vulnerabilities, right? And ignoring that, with the relative sheer power given to Input Managers in Mac OS X, I really have to wonder why anyone would want to risk running one unless absolutely necessary. This one in particular seems to be malfunctioning, and affecting many applications, because of the way Input Managers work. I strongly suggest you learn about Input Managers so you can make an informed decision about whether you want to run anything that requires one in the future. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates > have once again resolved SFA. Still - it's an update to MobileMe that is > really needed - I'm fairly certain now it is at fault for my recent > severe slowdowns. First I've heard of it slowing down an entire computer. It was blasting away until they rolled out mobile.me? You might want to go to http://www.apple.com/support/mobileme/ Drill down on ANY of the topics and the last thing on the bottom right is a "Still Need Help?" panel where you can chat with a mobileme technician/fry cook. I was pointed there by a stumped Apple tech from their help line. He said, if it's greyed out, they are all booked up, but when it isn't you can chat with someone. I stared at it off and on for a day. But the newest "updates", having closed at least some bugs might clear that button up for access. I'm unsure if there is a phone-line to mobile me. I'd chase it down. SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > > It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > > of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > First I've heard of it slowing down an entire computer. It was > blasting away until they rolled out mobile.me? I didn't get the impression MobileMe was in any way connected to his slowness problem. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >>> It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands >>> of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I didn't get the impression MobileMe was in any way connected to his > slowness problem. I can make the necessary connections in his complaint. SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > >>> It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > >>> of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I can make the necessary connections in his complaint. Hmm... He said it took him 10 seconds to open the post. How would MobileMe be involved with opening a post? SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >>>>> It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands >>>>> of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hmm... He said it took him 10 seconds to open the post. How would > MobileMe be involved with opening a post? Should read "I can't make the necessary connections in his complaint(s)." SignatureThank you and have a nice day. > >>>>> It took me ten seconds to open this post. I'm so glad I paid thousands > >>>>> of dollars for a dog-effing-slow computer and that the latest updates [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Should read "I can't make the necessary connections in his complaint(s)." O I C. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group rather than directly to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. You'll need to use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR |
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