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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / July 2008TM trouble with shutdown
I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. I have to turn off TM, turn off the menulet display, eject the external drive, then restart it and reset it all. Does anyone know of a fix, maybe using Automator or Applescript? The drive is a Maxtor One Touch 120Gb. > I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I > reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. > I have to turn off TM, turn off the menulet display, eject the external > drive, then restart it and reset it all. Does anyone know of a fix, maybe > using Automator or Applescript? The drive is a Maxtor One Touch 120Gb. You will have to eject the TM drive always. The newer iMacs' firewire outlets remain powered even when the computer is shut down. So you always have to eject the attached external drives. I suppose they did that to keep iPods powered at all time. >> I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I >> reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > always have to eject the attached external drives. > I suppose they did that to keep iPods powered at all time. Thanks for your reply. Is there a way to eject the drive automatically? > >> I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I > >> reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks for your reply. Is there a way to eject the drive automatically? I don't think so. I preferred the previous arrangement, where drives were automatically ejected at computer shut down. Whenever I want to backup I turn the drive on, then eject and turn off. I try to back up once each day. But this way, it saves power and my external drive will last longer. >> >> I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I >> >> reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Thanks for your reply. Is there a way to eject the drive automatically? > I don't think so. Does the eject command support firewire drives, or is it just for opticals? There must be some way to unmount a drive from the command line, so a simple script that fires off with a little help from launch agent or cron: Here's an osascript solution. The first part checks to see if you are logged in. #!/bin/sh osascript \ -e "set myname to system attribute \"USER\"" \ -e "set shellscpt to \"ps acuU \" & myname & \" | grep -v grep | grep loginwindow | grep -v grep | awk '{print $11}' "\ -e "set myLogin to do shell script \"echo\" & space & (quoted form of shellscpt) & space & \"| /bin/bash\" " \ -e "if myLogin = \"loginwindow\" then "\ -e <whatever command will dismount the drive> -e "end if" I use a script much like this to change my random signature form Mail.app every minute. > Whenever I want to backup I turn the drive on, then eject and turn off. > I try to back up once each day. But this way, it saves power and my > external drive will last longer. You're drive iwll last longest if it is always on. Turning it off to 'save' the drive is foolish because turning in on and off actually stresses the drive.  SignatureSUSURRATION: It's a hushed noise. But it hints of plots and secrets and people turning to one another i surprise. It's the noise, in fact, made just after the sword i withdrawn from the stone and just before the cheering starts. > >> >> I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. > >> >> When I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Does the eject command support firewire drives, or is it just for > opticals? Of course it supports firewire drives. > There must be some way to unmount a drive from the command line, so a > simple script that fires off with a little help from launch agent or [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I use a script much like this to change my random signature form Mail.app > every minute. Why use a command line if you can simply click on the drive and choose 'eject'? And it will still keep your drive running, as it still has power. > > Whenever I want to backup I turn the drive on, then eject and turn off. > > I try to back up once each day. But this way, it saves power and my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 'save' the drive is foolish because turning in on and off actually > stresses the drive. Nonsense. If a drive is running and, not to forget, the fan will be running all the time 24 hours a day if you don't live in Alaska, a drive will break down much earlier. Turning the drive on once each day is the best thing to give your drive a long life. In the case of TM and drive constantly on, your drive will spin up regularly to back up, then stop in slow mode (the fan will continue running at all times). Elemental physics. The myth of turning on and off stressing the drive only holds true when you do this every hour or so, not when you turn it on once a day. >>> >> I'm having problems with TM when I automatically shut down my iMac. When I >>> >> reboot, TM fails to be able to recover and automatically start backing up. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > 'save' the drive is foolish because turning in on and off actually > stresses the drive. Thanks for your reply. Question: What is an "osascript" and what would I do with it? Where would I find the command to eject adrive? > Question: What is an "osascript" and what would I do with it? Where would I > find the command to eject adrive? Enter this command in a terminal window: man osascript As you will read in the manual, the commands you feed to osascript are standard AppleScript commands. So do a Google search for "AppleScript eject". ; ) SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >> Question: What is an "osascript" and what would I do with it? Where would I >> find the command to eject adrive? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > standard AppleScript commands. So do a Google search for "AppleScript > eject". ; ) You're asking him to Join The Herd. He'll never do that... Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. > You're asking him to Join The Herd. He'll never do that... Moo. SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >> You're asking him to Join The Herd. He'll never do that... > > Moo. Personally I go for elephant trumpeting. Ten-twenty per herd, at up to six tonnes each... Dis _that_ herd and you'll regret it. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. > >> You're asking him to Join The Herd. He'll never do that... > > > > Moo. > > Personally I go for elephant trumpeting. Ten-twenty per herd, at up to six > tonnes each... Dis _that_ herd and you'll regret it. Okay but how would you express that in plain text? SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR >>>> You're asking him to Join The Herd. He'll never do that... >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Okay but how would you express that in plain text? Uuu-rah. Like a Marine, only with more intelligence. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. >> Question: What is an "osascript" and what would I do with it? Where would I >> find the command to eject adrive? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > standard AppleScript commands. So do a Google search for "AppleScript > eject". ; ) Thanks, JR. I'll give it a try. |
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