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Can any Mac apps dial a phone number?

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The NewGuy - 08 Jun 2008 18:44 GMT
Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
initiate dialing.  Ultimately, the app would work so any number
highlighted in any program could be dialed.  Of course you'd need a
phone modem.  If you're dialing lots of numbers a day, and they are all
on your computer, this would save time and make life easier I would
think.
Jolly Roger - 08 Jun 2008 19:30 GMT
> Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> on your computer, this would save time and make life easier I would
> think.

Sure. Macs have done this forever.

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Philo D - 08 Jun 2008 20:49 GMT
> > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sure. Macs have done this forever.

In Mac Help, ask for "Dial Modem" ...
The NewGuy - 08 Jun 2008 22:07 GMT
> > > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> In Mac Help, ask for "Dial Modem" ...

Then?  Didn't see anything relating to a modem dialing a phone number
that is not referring to faxing or internet connection.  Did I miss
something?  Nothing relevant in Address Book Help for "dialing" or
"dial".
Mike Rosenberg - 08 Jun 2008 22:15 GMT
> Then?  Didn't see anything relating to a modem dialing a phone number
> that is not referring to faxing or internet connection. Did I miss
> something?

If you did, so did I. If there's a way to get Address Book to do it, I
couldn't see how to, either.

On the other hand, Palm Desktop has always supported dialing going all
the way back to its roots as Claris Organizer.

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Paul Fuchs - 08 Jun 2008 23:57 GMT
> > Then?  Didn't see anything relating to a modem dialing a phone number
> > that is not referring to faxing or internet connection. Did I miss
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> On the other hand, Palm Desktop has always supported dialing going all
> the way back to its roots as Claris Organizer.

Much to my chagrin as a digitally challenged person, I believe Palm lost
this ability when it rewrote to OSX.  I only switched to address
book.app in the last couple of months as Leopard always me now to iSync
my Nokia.  Was using the Palm desktop up to then though I shitcanned my
Palm handheld years ago.
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Jolly Roger - 09 Jun 2008 00:14 GMT
> > > Then?  Didn't see anything relating to a modem dialing a phone number
> > > that is not referring to faxing or internet connection. Did I miss
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Much to my chagrin as a digitally challenged person, I believe Palm lost
> this ability when it rewrote to OSX.  

You mean when they carbonized? AFAIK, they never rewrote Palm Desktop
from scratch for Mac OS X.

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ringwraith - 10 Jun 2008 00:17 GMT
Haha, brings back old memories. Of course none of this is what we used
to use dialers for back in the old days :-) I don't suppose there are a
lot of modems waiting to answer the call now.
Mike Rosenberg - 09 Jun 2008 01:02 GMT
> > If you did, so did I. If there's a way to get Address Book to do it, I
> > couldn't see how to, either.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> my Nokia.  Was using the Palm desktop up to then though I shitcanned my
> Palm handheld years ago.

I don't have a modem to test it with, but I have Palm Desktop 4.2.1
installed and it can at least dial through the speaker. It appears that
it could be configured to dial through modem, though.

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The NewGuy - 08 Jun 2008 21:53 GMT
> > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sure. Macs have done this forever.

I couldn't see how to do this in Address Book.  Once I had displayed a
number I was expecting to see a Dial option when I right clicked it or
perhaps something from the Menu Bar that was relevant.  Did I miss
something?  (I don't use Bluetooth which is mentioned in Help.)  Can you
imagine how nice this would be?  You have free long distance dialing and
whatever number you see - bam - the computer is dialing it immediately
if you want.  I take it most of us are in North America and more and
more of us have opted for free North American calling on our telephone
plans.
Jolly Roger - 08 Jun 2008 22:10 GMT
> > > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> more of us have opted for free North American calling on our telephone
> plans.

I should have been more clear. Macs have done this forever through
third-party software.  : )

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Gregory Weston - 09 Jun 2008 00:46 GMT
> > > > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > > > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut
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> I should have been more clear. Macs have done this forever through
> third-party software.  : )

Or HyperCard.

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Dave Balderstone - 09 Jun 2008 04:44 GMT
> Or HyperCard.

I miss Hypercard. Hopefully Mark Aldritt (of Latenight Sofware, author
of Script Debugger) will be able to achieve his goals with FaceSpan.
I'm hearing VERY good things about the product.

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Dave Balderstone - 08 Jun 2008 22:06 GMT
> > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sure. Macs have done this forever.

Can you please describe how to highlight a phone number in Address Book
and have the Mac dial it?

'Cause i'm not seeing it.

MacBook Pro with Apple USB modem...

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Jolly Roger - 08 Jun 2008 22:17 GMT
> > > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> MacBook Pro with Apple USB modem...

You'll need one of these (or something similar):

MacDialer <http://www.fromconcentratesoftware.com/MacDialer/>

Jon's Phone Tool <http://www.jonn8.com/jpt/>

ABDialer <http://www.macronsoft.com/pages/en/abdialer.html>

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The NewGuy - 08 Jun 2008 22:28 GMT
> > > > Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> > > > the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> ABDialer <http://www.macronsoft.com/pages/en/abdialer.html>

So these can run "on top" of other apps and enable dialing from them?  
If so, this would be extremely time saving and convenient.  And what
kind of USB modem would be best?  The Apple model is reasonably priced -
is there anything better?
Jolly Roger - 08 Jun 2008 22:44 GMT
> > You'll need one of these (or something similar):
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> So these can run "on top" of other apps and enable dialing from them?  
> If so, this would be extremely time saving and convenient.  

It appears so.

> And what
> kind of USB modem would be best?  The Apple model is reasonably priced -
> is there anything better?

I doubt it, but your guess is as good as mine.

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Chris H. - 18 Jun 2008 04:08 GMT
> And what kind of USB modem would be best?  The Apple model is
> reasonably priced - is there anything better?

I tried the Apple model with a 1st generation iMac G5 and did not like
the experience. It appears to be a "software" modem.

I picked up a Best Data "hardware" modem at Micro Center. In my case the
Best Data modem was a better choice.

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The NewGuy - 18 Jun 2008 09:34 GMT
> > And what kind of USB modem would be best?  The Apple model is
> > reasonably priced - is there anything better?
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> I picked up a Best Data "hardware" modem at Micro Center. In my case the
> Best Data modem was a better choice.

Was there any difference in audio quality or handoff speed?  (Full
duplex audio?)  Is it on this page?
http://www.bestdata.com/index.php?file=c-all56k&iCategoryId=10
Chris H. - 19 Jun 2008 00:37 GMT
> Was there any difference in audio quality or handoff speed?  (Full
> duplex audio?)  Is it on this page?
> http://www.bestdata.com/index.php?file=c-all56k&iCategoryId=10

The best data appears to connect at speeds listed between 48xxx and
45xxx. Looking at that page, I believe that I have the:

56USBMAC - SMART ONE 56Kbps MAC USB Plus V.92 Controller-based DATA/FAX
          MODEM

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The NewGuy - 19 Jun 2008 18:39 GMT
> > Was there any difference in audio quality or handoff speed?  (Full
> > duplex audio?)  Is it on this page?
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> 56USBMAC - SMART ONE 56Kbps MAC USB Plus V.92 Controller-based DATA/FAX
>            MODEM

Remember, connection speeds are not important.  Its not being used for
internet.  Its being used as a dialer, than as a full duplex
communication device.
Mark Conrad - 08 Jun 2008 22:42 GMT
> You'll need one of these (or something similar):
>
> MacDialer <http://www.fromconcentratesoftware.com/MacDialer/>

Interesting.   Might even work at a Wi-Fi  coffee shop that does
not have any pay telephone.

Slap on your headset, plug it into your USB connector,
and you can make a voice call to anyone who has a telephone.

...maybe   :)

Mark-
Mike Rosenberg - 08 Jun 2008 22:50 GMT
> Interesting.   Might even work at a Wi-Fi  coffee shop that does
> not have any pay telephone.
>
> Slap on your headset, plug it into your USB connector,
> and you can make a voice call to anyone who has a telephone.

All this is probably true, but you can also use Skype for that purpose.

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The NewGuy - 09 Jun 2008 01:00 GMT
> > Interesting.   Might even work at a Wi-Fi  coffee shop that does
> > not have any pay telephone.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> All this is probably true, but you can also use Skype for that purpose.

But you need to pay for Skype out to do that.  Unless you're dialing
toll free numbers of course.  Then its free.
The NewGuy - 09 Jun 2008 01:06 GMT
> > You'll need one of these (or something similar):
> > MacDialer <http://www.fromconcentratesoftware.com/MacDialer/>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Slap on your headset, plug it into your USB connector,
> and you can make a voice call to anyone who has a telephone.

I think you're referring to VOIP.  This is different.  This appeals to
people with a computer at home, with a landline telephone line, that use
their computer to reference all their phone numbers.  Think of the
convenience: Whenever you see a phone number on a web page you can just
click and dial without picking up the phone.  If you have a headset,
these apps might even allow using the computer for the entire call
instead of just the dialing part.  But that is just a bonus.  The main
thing is the dialing - at least for most of us I think. Once someone
answers, its easy to pick up the phone and talk.  Labtec had an
interesting headset out a few years ago.  It connected to both your
landline phone AND your audio in/out computer jacks.  So you could
chat/IM people all over the world, then answer a call from your neighbor
just by flipping a switch.  Brilliant.  Of course it didn't catch
on....lol.  Too smart for the dullards.  They'd rather fumble with
phones and headsets and mics and speakers.
Mark Conrad - 09 Jun 2008 07:35 GMT
> They'd rather fumble with
> phones and headsets and mics and speakers.

Perhaps a wireless headset might appeal to some, that way
they would not risk yanking their MacBook off the coffee table
when they bounce up to the counter for a refill.

One other thing might be worth mentioning. (maybe not)

Assume I am at one of those old fashioned rural hotels that do not
have any Internet access of any kind, but I absolutely have to
get hold of a file on my home computer.

The Timbuktu app' has a feature that allows me to connect via
a regular telephone connection to the Mac at my house, to heck
with the Internet altogether!

Slow as molasses, but good enough to retrieve small files.

(assuming the hotel has regular telephone connections
  in every room, and not that darn digital phone system)

To check, temporarily connect a telephone handset to the jack,
to make darn certain you can call out, otherwise you risk
burning up your Macs modem with a hotel "digital" phone.

Mark-
Neill Massello - 09 Jun 2008 17:50 GMT
> Wondering if any apps like Address Book or iCal or non-Apple ones have
> the option so you could highlight a number and a keyboard shortcut would
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> on your computer, this would save time and make life easier I would
> think.

This can be done with a third-party Address Book plug-in called
UllaBella.  

<http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/16452/ullabella>
 
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