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Bob Hunt - 01 Jun 2008 21:36 GMT
I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried google, but
didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions for opening this
file?

Thanks.
Dave Balderstone - 01 Jun 2008 21:52 GMT
> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
> 2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried google, but
> didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions for opening this
> file?

.docx is the new MS Word format.

Docx Converter <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31504>

TextEdit under Leopard (10.5) will open docx files.

Office 2008 will obviously open them, too.

Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and send
it again.

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Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 22:45 GMT
> .docx is the new MS Word format.
>
> Docx Converter <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31504>

I don't know about the OP, but the $19.95 this costs is roughly $19.95
more than I care to spend to deal with the problem at my end. Now, I'm
running Leopard, so I have that version of TextEdit, so it's not an
issue here.

Anyway, I found a web site that offers free conversions for .docx and
many other formats:

http://www.zamzar.com/conversionTypes.php#documents

I haven't tried it, though.

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> Anyway, I found a web site that offers free conversions for .docx and
> many other formats:

NeoOffice will open .docx files.
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Steve Hix - 01 Jun 2008 23:03 GMT
> > I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
> > has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and send
> it again.

Turns out that NeoOffice and OpenOffice both open it quite nicely.

They're both free, to boot.
Dave Fritzinger - 02 Jun 2008 18:38 GMT
On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID>
wrote:

> > In article <C468726D.102D%blh...@sbcglobal.net>, Bob Hunt
> > <blh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> They're both free, to boot.

Pages '08 will also open .docx files, and actually does a better job
than Leopard's Text Edit, in that Pages can handle more advanced
formatting.
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=?x-mac-roman?Q?Erik_Richard_S=BFrensen?= - 01 Jun 2008 23:16 GMT
?Dave Balderstone wrote:?> Bob Hunt <blh555@sbcglobal.net> wrote:?>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon?>> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office?>> 2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried google, but?>> didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions for opening this?>> file??> ?> .docx is the new MS Word format.?> ?> Docx Converter <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31504>?> ?> TextEdit under Leopard (10.5) will open docx files.?> ?> Office 2008 will obviously open them, too.??Or get the new native OS X ver. of Openoffice Aqua 3.0. The link points ?to the PPC version for PowerPC Macs.?http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html??> Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and send?> it again.??Yes, and the file size will also be smaller without all tha XML/OOXML crap!??Cheers, Erik Richard??-- ?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?  Rgds. GrŸ§e, Mvh. Erik Richard S¿rensen, Member of ADC?  <mac-man_NOSP@M_stofanet.dk>  <http://www.nisus.com>?  NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Textprocessing?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?
Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 23:34 GMT
Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

?Dave Balderstone wrote:?> Bob Hunt <blh555@sbcglobal.net> wrote:?>> I
have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the
icon?>> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have
office?>> 2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried
google, but?>> didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions
for opening this?>> file??> ?> .docx is the new MS Word format.?> ?>
Docx Converter
<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31504>?> ?> TextEdit
under Leopard (10.5) will open docx files.?> ?> Office 2008 will
obviously open them, too.??Or get the new native OS X ver. of Openoffice
Aqua 3.0. The link points ?to the PPC version for PowerPC
Macs.?http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html??> Or ask
your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and send?> it
again.??Yes, and the file size will also be smaller without all tha
XML/OOXML crap!??Cheers, Erik Richard??-- ?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?  Rgds. Grüße, Mvh. Erik Richard Sørensen,
Member of ADC?  <mac-man_NOSP@M_stofanet.dk>  <http://www.nisus.com>?
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Textprocessing?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?

Um, Erik, you may want to do something about this. That's a copy and
paste job so you can see what your post looked like here, in MacSOUP.
Everyone else's posts display properly here. I checked using MT-NW also,
and it was the same there.

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Kurt Ullman - 01 Jun 2008 23:41 GMT
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Everyone else's posts display properly here. I checked using MT-NW also,
> and it was the same there.

   FWIW, I, too have MT-NW and it came through perfectly.
Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 23:47 GMT
> > Um, Erik, you may want to do something about this. That's a copy and
> > paste job so you can see what your post looked like here, in MacSOUP.
> > Everyone else's posts display properly here. I checked using MT-NW also,
> > and it was the same there.
>
>     FWIW, I, too have MT-NW and it came through perfectly.

The plot thickens. JR just posted that he saw it displayed just as I
did, using MT-NW, and Erik has made two subsequent posts that are
aproblematic.

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Jolly Roger - 01 Jun 2008 23:52 GMT
In article
<kurtullman-45A27F.18414701062008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,

>     FWIW, I, too have MT-NW and it came through perfectly.

Are you sure? He posted the same message three times:  twice correctly,
and once malformed. My response was to the malformed version.

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Steve Hix - 02 Jun 2008 04:58 GMT
In article
<kurtullman-45A27F.18414701062008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,

> > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
>     FWIW, I, too have MT-NW and it came through perfectly.

I'm using MT-NW, and it didn't, here.
Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 02:10 GMT
> Um, Erik, you may want to do something about this. That's a copy and
> paste job so you can see what your post looked like here, in MacSOUP.
> Everyone else's posts display properly here. I checked using MT-NW also,
> and it was the same there.

I discovered it as soon as I controlled receipt in the group and removed
it... It's David, who is the 'problem' this time.:-) - He replied to a
'Western (Macroman)' - and not 'Western (ISO-8859-1)'....

cheers, Erik Richard

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 02:24 GMT
> I discovered it as soon as I controlled receipt in the group and removed
> it... It's David, who is the 'problem' this time.:-) - He replied to a
> 'Western (Macroman)' - and not 'Western (ISO-8859-1)'....

Oh, I have a hunch this is not going to go over well...

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Jolly Roger - 02 Jun 2008 02:32 GMT
> I controlled receipt in the group and removed it

Huh?  You controlled what?  Removed what?

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 04:36 GMT
> > I controlled receipt in the group and removed it
>
> Huh?  You controlled what?  Removed what?

Oh, come on, JR. He did exactly what we said in that other thread
earlier couldn't possibly be done in Usenet. Seriously, he thinks he
canceled his post. Never mind the fact that we've all read it, which
really should indicate that it's there for us to read.

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Dave Balderstone - 02 Jun 2008 05:39 GMT
> > > I controlled receipt in the group and removed it
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> canceled his post. Never mind the fact that we've all read it, which
> really should indicate that it's there for us to read.

Oh. That explains thing perfectly.

I love reading poasts that don't exist. It adds something to the day.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 15:35 GMT
>>>> I controlled receipt in the group and removed it
>>> Huh?  You controlled what?  Removed what?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I love reading poasts that don't exist. It adds something to the day.

Maybe you do..-) - But stop using that crap called 'Western(MacRoman)'
and instead use either ISO-latin-1 og Western (ISO-8859-1)! - If
SeaMonkey hasn't alerted me that an incorrect character encoding was
being used, you'd get the same garbage in this reply...

If I send a wrong message to a certain usenetgroup, I can remove this
message again. - But it seems as if some usenet servers are setup
otherwise. - which can mean that wrong posts aren't deleted correctly.

Here in the Danish usenet hierachy, which is controlled and managed by
the Danish TDC telephone company, you can remove the message body
completely and only the header is left back. but you must do it
immediately and do it before someone might have downloaded it. If
someone got it down, and you remove your original posting, the
eventually replies still will occour. - And you can only remove your own
postings...

cheers, Erik Richard

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Fred Moore - 02 Jun 2008 16:12 GMT
> ... But stop using that crap called 'Western(MacRoman)'
> and instead use either ISO-latin-1 og Western (ISO-8859-1)!

Umm, ER, it's not the MacRoman that is the problem. I've been posting
from MT-NT using MacRoman since hell was a pup and it's never gone
buggerup. Perhaps the Little Mermaid has stopped watching over the TDC
Usenet feed.  ;)

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 19:46 GMT
> Maybe you do..-) - But stop using that crap called 'Western(MacRoman)'
> and instead use either ISO-latin-1 og Western (ISO-8859-1)! - If
> SeaMonkey hasn't alerted me that an incorrect character encoding was
> being used, you'd get the same garbage in this reply...

Why is it, I wonder, that only you have this problem with Dave's posts,
though.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 20:51 GMT
>> Maybe you do..-) - But stop using that crap called 'Western(MacRoman)'
>> and instead use either ISO-latin-1 og Western (ISO-8859-1)! - If
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Why is it, I wonder, that only you have this problem with Dave's posts,
> though.

I don't know, why Dave has changed his character encoding. earlier on
his posts always came through in ISO-Latin-1/ISO8859-1... maybe you
don't have the problems, cause you and most on the group are only using
ASCII compatible characters, which don't include non-Us characters. - In
this case it doesn't matter, whether you use MacRoman or not.

And to this also comes that now all newsservers within the EU fellowship
have changed all settings to use only IsO standardized setups. - And
MacRoman isnot an ISO standard.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 21:06 GMT
> > Why is it, I wonder, that only you have this problem with Dave's posts,
> > though.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> have changed all settings to use only IsO standardized setups. - And
> MacRoman isnot an ISO standard.

No one else, not one single person anywhere in the world, including
others using Mozilla apps, has such a problem with Dave's posts.

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Dave Balderstone - 02 Jun 2008 22:40 GMT
> > > Why is it, I wonder, that only you have this problem with Dave's posts,
> > > though.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> No one else, not one single person anywhere in the world, including
> others using Mozilla apps, has such a problem with Dave's posts.

And Dave has changed nothing.

But don't waste any time on it. I really don't care whether Erik
Richard Sørensen reads any of my posts, or what he experiences when he
does.

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 23:05 GMT
> And Dave has changed nothing.

I had a strong hunch that was the case.

> But don't waste any time on it.

Oh, don't worry. I don't consider any time I've spent on this wasted
time.

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Warren Oates - 02 Jun 2008 12:39 GMT
> Oh, come on, JR. He did exactly what we said in that other thread
> earlier couldn't possibly be done in Usenet. Seriously, he thinks he
> canceled his post. Never mind the fact that we've all read it, which
> really should indicate that it's there for us to read.

Some nntp hosts will still allow you to cancel your own messages, I
believe. If you do it fast enough, Google won't have gotten it.
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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 13:32 GMT
> > Oh, come on, JR. He did exactly what we said in that other thread
> > earlier couldn't possibly be done in Usenet. Seriously, he thinks he
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Some nntp hosts will still allow you to cancel your own messages, I
> believe.

This may be true, but to say you've canceled something you already know
has gotten distributed?

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 15:15 GMT
>> I controlled receipt in the group and removed it
>
> Huh?  You controlled what?

That my reply came through correctly...

> Removed what?

The carbaged post... - But sometimes you can't manage to delete it
again, before a certain newsreader already has picked it up and
downloaded it to disk...

Cheeers, Erik Richard

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Jolly Roger - 02 Jun 2008 19:34 GMT
> >> I controlled receipt in the group and removed it
> >
> > Huh?  You controlled what?
>
> That my reply came through correctly...

But you didn't control anything.  Three individual posts from you made
it to the news group.

> > Removed what?
>
> The carbaged post... - But sometimes you can't manage to delete it
> again, before a certain newsreader already has picked it up and
> downloaded it to disk...

Not sometimes - most times.  Most news servers these days do not support
cancellation of posts.

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Dave Balderstone - 02 Jun 2008 03:55 GMT
> I discovered it as soon as I controlled receipt in the group and removed
> it

I know English isn't your first language, Erik, but are you even TRYING?

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Jolly Roger - 01 Jun 2008 23:37 GMT
> ?Dave Balderstone wrote:?> Bob Hunt <blh555@sbcglobal.net> wrote:?>> I have
> received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon?>> has
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
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My goodness...

Mental note:   Mozilla sucks for Usenet

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Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 23:45 GMT
> Mental note:   Mozilla sucks for Usenet

Well, maybe so for other reasons (SeaMonkey is a successor to the old
7.x and earlier Netscape, essentially FireFox and Thunderbird combined,
and we've already noted just how primitive Thunderbird's filtering
capabilities are), but this isn't something I've ever seen from anyone's
posts via Mozilla before, and that includes Erik's posts.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 02:11 GMT
> My goodness...
>
> Mental note:   Mozilla sucks for Usenet

Nope, 'MacRoman' sucks for usenet.:-)

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 01 Jun 2008 23:30 GMT
>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx,
>> and the icon has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Office 2008 will obviously open them, too.

Or get the new native OS X ver. of Openoffice Aqua 3.0. The link points
to the PPC version for PowerPC Macs.
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html

> Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and
> send it again.

Yes, and the file size will also be smaller without all tha XML/OOXML crap!

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 01 Jun 2008 23:31 GMT
>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx,
>> and the icon has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Office 2008 will obviously open them, too.

Or get the new native OS X ver. of Openoffice Aqua 3.0. The link points
to the PPC version for PowerPC Macs.
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html

> Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and
> send it again.

Yes, and the file size will also be smaller without all tha XML/OOXML crap!

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 21:02 GMT
>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
>> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Or ask your relative to save the file in the older .doc format and send
> it again.

Okay, so here I am posting with Sea Monkey 1.1.9, with all the default
settings left intact, and Dave's post displays properly when I read it
and when I quote it.
Erik Richard Sørensen - 02 Jun 2008 21:25 GMT
>>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and
>>> the icon
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> settings left intact, and Dave's post displays properly when I read it
> and when I quote it.

Yep! - and this is because SeaMonkey as standard use the automatic
character encoding. - And if i didn't change it back to ISO-8859-1, it
again turns out garbaged.

It is not the reading in the group that causes the problem. The problem
comes, as soon as you hit the reply button/command, then SeaMonkey
changes to the system default character encoding, which is used on your
computer, if you haven't set up any changed encoding as default encoding
type in the prefs settings.

And since I'm using Danish system for my daily work, ISO-8859-1 of
course is the default settings here. I probably won't have the problems,
if I change from danish to US English as my default system language, -
unless I've set SeaMonkey to use a fixed ISO-8859-1 setting instead of
the automatic settings....

cheers, Erik Richard

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AV3 - 02 Jun 2008 23:18 GMT
>>>> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and
>>>> the icon
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> unless I've set SeaMonkey to use a fixed ISO-8859-1 setting instead of
> the automatic settings....

Since you do your daily Danish work on a Danish keyboard, which I
suppose is awerty (yes, I'm too lazy to check it out for myself), why
not use the Norwegian Extended (Unicode) keyboard, which would serve all
international needs? Unless you like U. S. qwerty, in which case U. S.
Extended would be useful. I can't see why ISO-8859-1 has any attraction
for you at all. I am American born and bred and use U. S. Extended in
preference to it, since it serves reading and writing texts in multiple
languages.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 03 Jun 2008 01:25 GMT
>>> Okay, so here I am posting with Sea Monkey 1.1.9, with all the
>>> default settings left intact, and Dave's post displays properly when
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> Since you do your daily Danish work on a Danish keyboard, which I
> suppose is awerty (yes, I'm too lazy to check it out for myself),

I tink you mean ASERTY and not AWERTY?

> why
> not use the Norwegian Extended (Unicode) keyboard, which would serve all
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> preference to it, since it serves reading and writing texts in multiple
> languages.

In Danish and Norwegian we have three special characters that doesn't
exist in either US or other english languages - the æÆ, øØ and åÅ, so
that won't change anything, if I changed to a Norwegian keyboard. - And
on the Norwegian the æÆ and øØ are moved around, so where I in Danis
write the æÆ, I'll in Norwegian write the øØ and visa-versa. - These
special Scandinavian characters are in reality double characters - æÆ =
ae/AA, øØ = oe/OE and åÅ = aa/AA...

The keyboard I'm using is a black/silverish Apple Pro QWERTY with Danish
keyboard layout....

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AV3 - 03 Jun 2008 02:44 GMT
>>>> Okay, so here I am posting with Sea Monkey 1.1.9, with all the
>>>> default settings left intact, and Dave's post displays properly when
>>>> I read it and when I quote it.

...

>> Since you do your daily Danish work on a Danish keyboard, which I
>> suppose is awerty (yes, I'm too lazy to check it out for myself),
>
> I tink you mean ASERTY and not AWERTY?

I just didn't know about the existence of ASERTY: AWERTY is for
continental French and I also know about QWERTZ for German.

>> why not use the Norwegian Extended (Unicode) keyboard, which would
>> serve all international needs? Unless you like U. S. qwerty, in which
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> The keyboard I'm using is a black/silverish Apple Pro QWERTY with Danish
> keyboard layout....

I don't understand having QWERTY but a Danish ASERTY layout on one
single keyboard. Is it just those three special characters in the places
you expect them on a Danish ASERTY keyboard, replacing the keys in the
QWERTY-standard keyboard layout? I would call that a Danish-modified
QWERTY keyboard. Chacun à son goût. Might that not explain your problem,
i. e., you misread the characters typed on a standard QWERTY keyboard in
those three places modified on your keyboard? That used to happen in the
old Mac version of Latin X and modified Latin X keyboard layouts. I
thought Apple's transition to Unicode starting in System 9 solved that
problem; at least it did for me using U. S. Extended and its ancestors.

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Jolly Roger - 01 Jun 2008 22:57 GMT
> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
> 2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried google, but
> didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions for opening this
> file?

That's an evil Microsoft Office Open XML File.

Microsoft decided that, rather than supporting the open standard Open
Document XML format the rest of the world is using, they would be better
served if they created their own proprietary, pseudo-open format called
Open XML. Microsoft's antics regarding ths Open XML format have been in
tech news for a long time now. Microsoft has pulled every low-handed
stunt in the book to try to push their own proprietary format on the
world to hurt the already-established, superior Open Document XML format
as much as possible. Their goal, of course, is to make other companies
dependent on the Office Open XML format so they'll have to pay Microsoft
to use it. Google for details. I digress...

Microsoft created a converter for Office 2004 users to give them until
the end of 2008 to upgrade to Office 2008, which has built-in support
for Open XML files.

Look in the bottom section of this web page for "Microsoft Office Open
XML File Format Converter for Mac 0.2.1 (Beta)":

<http://preview.tinyurl.com/2edkao>

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D.F. Manno - 01 Jun 2008 23:08 GMT
> I have received a file from a relative that has a suffix .docx, and the icon
> has "zip" written on it.  My emac is running 10.4.11, and I have office
> 2004, but I could not open the file, nor unstuff it.  I tried google, but
> didn't find any help.  Does anyone have any suggestions for opening this
> file?

Microsoft offers a converter at:

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=AB66B5BF-37C3-4
1BB-945E-784782FC582C&displaylang=en>

or <http://tinyurl.com/2ejtfc>

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