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Purchase MS Office 2004, or 2007, new?

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AES - 01 Jun 2008 16:27 GMT
Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )
Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 16:33 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
> 2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )

Well, you're excluding the place you're most likely to find it, and
don't give me the "you never know who to trust on eBay" argument,
because that's what the user feedback feature is all about.

Anyway, Google, as usual, is your friend. A search on "Microsoft Office
2004" turned up several vendors, including Amazon.com.

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MacMike - 01 Jun 2008 16:37 GMT
>> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
>> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
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> Anyway, Google, as usual, is your friend. A search on "Microsoft Office
> 2004" turned up several vendors, including Amazon.com.

You didn't say which version of Office you're looking for.

(BTW, the two versions I think you're referring to are 2004 and 2008).

Anyway...there's a student/teacher edition that's significantly cheaper
($145.00, I think) than anything else out there.  Provided you qualify,
of course....
Mike Rosenberg - 01 Jun 2008 16:54 GMT
> Anyway...there's a student/teacher edition that's significantly cheaper
> ($145.00, I think) than anything else out there.  Provided you qualify,
> of course....

Qualifying for the Student/Teacher version of Office 2004 entailed
ordering it from any vendor I'm aware of or taking it from the shelf of
a retail store and paying for it. Despite the name, there was never a
requirement to provide academic credentials to buy it, unlike the
academic versions of, say, Adobe products.

As for Office 2007 for Windows and Office 2008 for Macintosh, Microsoft
now calls it the "Home and Student" version. They're both the current
versions for the respective platforms, so whether the OP meant 2007 or
2008, they're both readily available.

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AES - 01 Jun 2008 20:04 GMT
> You didn't say which version of Office you're looking for.
>
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> ($145.00, I think) than anything else out there.  Provided you qualify,
> of course....

Sorry.  I'm talking a "low end" Mac version here -- and making this
inquiry because we currently have just one copy of Office Mac 2004  
which is shared for very infrequent use by two users in an Airported
household.  At any given time only one of us is likely to want to use
it; but if the other user has left their copy running, Office detects
this over the Airport LAN and blocks opening the other copy.

[In fact, I think if one user has just left Word open, the other user
can't even open Excel or PowerPoint.]

So, we're willing to pay the freight for a low-cost second copy.  We're
eligible for the academic price -- but we'd like to get the 2004 version
primarily because neither of use wants to have to adapt to any newer or
updated interface changes in any of these three apps, and secondarily
because I thought I read some criticisms of Word 2008 vs earlier version.
Jolly Roger - 01 Jun 2008 20:44 GMT
> > You didn't say which version of Office you're looking for.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sorry.  I'm talking a "low end" Mac version here

Depending your definition of "low end", the student and teacher edition
may be what you want.

> and making this
> inquiry because we currently have just one copy of Office Mac 2004  
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> [In fact, I think if one user has just left Word open, the other user
> can't even open Excel or PowerPoint.]

That's because it's a violation of the Microsoft Office 2004 user
agreement to share it with another person.

> So, we're willing to pay the freight for a low-cost second copy.  We're
> eligible for the academic price -- but we'd like to get the 2004 version
> primarily because neither of use wants to have to adapt to any newer or
> updated interface changes in any of these three apps, and secondarily
> because I thought I read some criticisms of Word 2008 vs earlier version.

Then you should shop around on the web. It can be fond cheap from places
like Amazon.com and BUY.com.

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Wes Groleau - 02 Jun 2008 04:21 GMT
> That's because it's a violation of the Microsoft Office 2004 user
> agreement to share it with another person.

I bought Office X and did all its upgrades.

Later, I bought Office 2004 and put it on the other Mac.

Even though both are paid for, either refuses to run
when the other is running.

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Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jun 2008 04:44 GMT
> I bought Office X and did all its upgrades.
>
> Later, I bought Office 2004 and put it on the other Mac.
>
> Even though both are paid for, either refuses to run
> when the other is running.

Something is definitely wrong. I have lots of clients running two or
more copies of Office, with two or more different serial numbers, on
networked Macs, and they're all able to run Office apps simultaneously
on multiple computers.  Only when it's the same serial number do they
refuse to run.

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Jolly Roger - 02 Jun 2008 09:49 GMT
> > That's because it's a violation of the Microsoft Office 2004 user
> > agreement to share it with another person.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Even though both are paid for, either refuses to run
> when the other is running.

Was the copy of Office 2004 you purchased an upgrade from the Office X
you already owned?

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Wes Groleau - 03 Jun 2008 02:42 GMT
> Was the copy of Office 2004 you purchased an upgrade from the Office X
> you already owned?

Officially, no.  However, both were on a contract between the
University and Microsoft.  I suspect that the contract allowed
the Uni to make their own CDs, all with the same serial number.
I don't remember whether I had to enter a product key for Office.
I do know that all the WinDoze I bought through the Uni had a
product key pre-entered in the install wizard.

It's tempting to cry, "Rip-Off!" but at ten dollars each.....

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Jolly Roger - 03 Jun 2008 04:28 GMT
> I suspect that the contract allowed
> the Uni to make their own CDs, all with the same serial number.

It couldn't be that it's a single-user license they simply "shared"?

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Nigel - 03 Jun 2008 06:02 GMT
>> I suspect that the contract allowed
>> the Uni to make their own CDs, all with the same serial number.
>
> It couldn't be that it's a single-user license they simply "shared"?

I know our Uni has a licence deal with M$ (and many other software
companies) and distribute their own install disks.  For M$ each installation
gets its own serial number as far as I can see so I presume they keep track
of the number installed in some way.

Nigel
Michael Vilain - 01 Jun 2008 19:46 GMT
> > Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> > new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Anyway, Google, as usual, is your friend. A search on "Microsoft Office
> 2004" turned up several vendors, including Amazon.com.

There's a used bookstore in Mountain View on Castro Street a couple
doors down from Books Inc.  They have used software titles.  You may
find something there but don't hold your breath.  Craigslist is also an
option.  But, you're really screened out the primary places to buy old
software.

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Jolly Roger - 01 Jun 2008 16:39 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
> 2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )

You mean 2004 or 200*8*?  There is not Office 2007 for Mac.

You might do a Google Shopping search and start there.

I usually check out buy.com and amazon.com specifically, because either
one of them typically has a good price with free shipping and no tax,
and they are both reputable retailers.

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D.F. Manno - 01 Jun 2008 23:11 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
> 2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )

You might try the LEM Swap List. You can get more information on the
list, including how to subscribe, at:

<http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html>

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John - 01 Jun 2008 23:38 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
> 2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )

Would NeoOffice (or OpenOffice) meet your needs? They are free.

I have left M$ Office 100% behind.

Just a thought.
Shawn Hirn - 02 Jun 2008 02:44 GMT
> Anyone have any suggestions on where one might purchase a legitimate,
> new, preferably still in shrink-wrap and registerable copy of MS Office
> 2004 or 2007 versions?   (NOT including eBay . . . )

Any computer store.
 
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