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Ominiweb and keychains are broken

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Jamie Kahn Genet - 30 May 2008 07:52 GMT
I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
each site I frequent daily, once.

I should have visited twice. Then I'd have discovered Omniweb asks if I
want to save my passwords EVERY bloody time, despite me always saying
yes. Plus it askes me if it's ok to use passwords already stored in the
keychain, and then askes if I'd like to save them :-(

ARRRRRGH!

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Jolly Roger - 30 May 2008 08:30 GMT
> I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> each site I frequent daily, once.
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>
> ARRRRRGH!

I'm very satisfied with Firefox + AdBlock Plus + Foxmarks + SwitchProxy.
Is OmniWeb supposed to be that much better?

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Kevin McMurtrie - 31 May 2008 04:55 GMT
> > I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> > each site I frequent daily, once.
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> I'm very satisfied with Firefox + AdBlock Plus + Foxmarks + SwitchProxy.
> Is OmniWeb supposed to be that much better?

It has some good developer features.  You can view HTTP headers, edit
source and redisplay, view the Web Inspector, block URLs by regular
expression, alter the browser ID, and configure preferences differently
for each web site.

My BIG gripe is that cookies are broken on XMLHttpRequest
communications.  This causes some "Web 2.0" servers to respond with
broken web pages or random logouts.  It's a serious bug that makes OW
unsuitable for anything but casual surfing.

OW also inherits some bugs from Apple's WebKit.  OW and Safari may crash
or stop working when it encounters a self-signed SSL certificate.  They
both also send a bogus Content-Type header when a POST returns a
SEE-OTHER code.  This breaks JIRA.

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Jolly Roger - 31 May 2008 16:11 GMT
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<mcmurtri-947E6C.20552330052008@softbank060082049208.bbtec.net>,

> > > I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> > > each site I frequent daily, once.
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> expression, alter the browser ID, and configure preferences differently
> for each web site.

I'm pretty sure you can do most of all of that with Firefox as well,
with the right plug-in modules.

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Paul Fuchs - 31 May 2008 20:50 GMT
> > > I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> > > each site I frequent daily, once.
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> both also send a bogus Content-Type header when a POST returns a
> SEE-OTHER code.  This breaks JIRA.

My system started crashing every few hours last month.  Force Quit would
not quit non responding programs.  Had to restart every time.  Disk
Warrior 4.0 would not solve the problem or a permissions fix.  After
much tooling about, I discovered that dumping Omniweb solved the
problem.  I am back to Safari.  Too bad.  It had features which I liked.
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Jerry Kindall - 30 May 2008 16:40 GMT
> I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> each site I frequent daily, once.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> ARRRRRGH!

It should only ask once for each password.  You may want to run first
aid on your keychain and see if there's any damage.

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Jamie Kahn Genet - 30 May 2008 20:24 GMT
> > I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> > each site I frequent daily, once.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> It should only ask once for each password.  You may want to run first
> aid on your keychain and see if there's any damage.

Yeah, done that - no change.

Other than this broken keychain intergration I'm loving Omniweb *sighs*
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Kevin McMurtrie - 31 May 2008 04:41 GMT
> I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> each site I frequent daily, once.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> ARRRRRGH!

It does that to me in several apps if the keychain refuses to unlock.  I
keep the keychain control in the menu bar at work so I can manually fix
it after waking from sleep.

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Jeffrey Jones - 31 May 2008 08:07 GMT
> I just bought Omniweb but I'm an idiot. I only tried Omniweb by visiting
> each site I frequent daily, once.
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> yes. Plus it askes me if it's ok to use passwords already stored in the
> keychain, and then askes if I'd like to save them :-(

Somethings broken. OmniWeb does NOT do that for me.
 
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