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To sleep, perchance to back-up

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Kurt Ullman - 29 May 2008 14:38 GMT
I have both SuperDuper! and Mozy set to back up at around 0300
nightly. They haven't over the last three nights (I first set-it up four
days ago, so in real life this is nothing new) . I am running updated OS
10.4.11, SD 2.5 (v84) and Mozy for Mac 1.0.0.0 on a MBP. I have the MBP
set-up to sleep if not used within about 20 minutes. However, the
programs don't seem to want to wake it back up to do their job(s).  Any
suggestions as to settings, etc., that I might need to change?
Gregory Weston - 29 May 2008 15:37 GMT
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<kurtullman-EEBC51.09384229052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,

>   I have both SuperDuper! and Mozy set to back up at around 0300
> nightly. They haven't over the last three nights (I first set-it up four
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> programs don't seem to want to wake it back up to do their job(s).  Any
> suggestions as to settings, etc., that I might need to change?

While nothing really prevents it, very few programs take advantage of
the APIs that allow them to schedule wakeups. So you're going to have to
do it yourself. Look at the "Schedule..." button in the Energy Saver
pane in System Preferences.

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Kurt Ullman - 29 May 2008 16:09 GMT
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 That' what I thought. Was hoping I was just missing something easier.
Jolly Roger - 29 May 2008 16:34 GMT
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> do it yourself. Look at the "Schedule..." button in the Energy Saver
> pane in System Preferences.

Be warned: I've tried schedule wake-up events like that in the past to
allow automated, unattended backups and found that the machine went
right back to sleep fairly quickly because there was no keyboard and
mouse input.

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Kurt Ullman - 29 May 2008 16:50 GMT
> Be warned: I've tried schedule wake-up events like that in the past to
> allow automated, unattended backups and found that the machine went
> right back to sleep fairly quickly because there was no keyboard and
> mouse input.

 Okay. So, does that mean I should do the back-ups by hand, so to speak?
Not a big deal since both run in the background.
Jolly Roger - 29 May 2008 17:22 GMT
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<kurtullman-FD1256.11502529052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,

> > Be warned: I've tried schedule wake-up events like that in the past to
> > allow automated, unattended backups and found that the machine went
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>   Okay. So, does that mean I should do the back-ups by hand, so to speak?
> Not a big deal since both run in the background.

I would try the wake-from-sleep timer, and see if it stays awake long
enough to complete a backup. If not, you'll have to do something
different, or figure out how to keep the machine awake long enough for
the backup complete and still go back to sleep after the backup is done.

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Gregory Weston - 29 May 2008 17:47 GMT
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<kurtullman-FD1256.11502529052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,

> > Be warned: I've tried schedule wake-up events like that in the past to
> > allow automated, unattended backups and found that the machine went
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>   Okay. So, does that mean I should do the back-ups by hand, so to speak?
> Not a big deal since both run in the background.

If JR's issue arises for you, I'd file a bug report with the vendor.
Since backups do usually run unattended, a backup tool that doesn't use
the available APIs to deny/delay sleep is broken IMO. Whereas the option
to wake up the machine is probably appropriate as a feature request.
It's not difficult, but it is something some developers might be averse
to just because it seems dodgy to them.

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Jolly Roger - 29 May 2008 17:52 GMT
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> <kurtullman-FD1256.11502529052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
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> It's not difficult, but it is something some developers might be averse
> to just because it seems dodgy to them.

That really depends on how the tool works though. Retrospect client, for
instance, is designed to be always available, and client network backups
don't normally have scheduled times, because the server polls for
clients 24/7.

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