Java 1.6 for non-64bit Mac?

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Forrie - 19 May 2008 20:54 GMT

I see there is a developer release of Java 1.6 SE ( or whatever ) for
only 64-bit Intel Macs. What about the rest of us? ;-)

I have a couple of applications that I'd like to use on my Mac
(Leopard, latest patches, Intel) that I'm currently having to use on
(gag) Windows.

Is there a separate port; or what are the specific issues of getting
this to work otherwise.

Thanks.

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Jolly Roger - 19 May 2008 21:21 GMT

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> I see there is a developer release of Java 1.6 SE ( or whatever ) for
> only 64-bit Intel Macs.

It's no longer a developer preview - it's been finalized for a few weeks
now:

<http://developer.apple.com/java/>

> What about the rest of us? ;-)

It's time to get a 64-bit Intel Mac, or make due with Java 1.5.

> I have a couple of applications that I'd like to use on my Mac
> (Leopard, latest patches, Intel) that I'm currently having to use on
> (gag) Windows.
>
> Is there a separate port

No. If Sun would get off their a.ses and release a Mac version of Java
like they do for Windows, there would be a separate port, but so far,
they haven't seen fit to do that. It may be better that Apple does it
themselves - that way the Mac Java user experience is better, I'm sure.

> what are the specific issues of getting
> this to work otherwise.

Convince Apple to spend money getting Java 1.6 working on 32-bit
Intel/PowerPC and 64-bit PowerPC Macs. You've got your work cut out for
you! ; )

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Megadave - 20 May 2008 02:54 GMT

> In article
> <09efe026-b487-473f-8341-c2aaf0331377@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> It's time to get a 64-bit Intel Mac, or make due with Java 1.5.

Or Soylatte as long as you don't need audio and don't mind X11 hosting
of the app.

> > I have a couple of applications that I'd like to use on my Mac
> > (Leopard, latest patches, Intel) that I'm currently having to use on
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> they haven't seen fit to do that. It may be better that Apple does it
> themselves - that way the Mac Java user experience is better, I'm sure.

It is much better. You can package a Java application the same way you
package a Mac app (with the .app folder hierarchy) and make Java apps
look very much the same way Mac apps look. Takes a bit of work but the
end result is worth it.

> > what are the specific issues of getting
> > this to work otherwise.
>
> Convince Apple to spend money getting Java 1.6 working on 32-bit
> Intel/PowerPC and 64-bit PowerPC Macs. You've got your work cut out for
> you! ; )

Or at least convince them to make a 32-bit version of the VM for Intel.

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Calum - 20 May 2008 20:41 GMT

> No. If Sun would get off their a.ses and release a Mac version of Java
> like they do for Windows, there would be a separate port, but so far,
> they haven't seen fit to do that.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Apple's deal with Sun to roll their
own version of Java included at least an 'understanding' that Sun
wouldn't release their own version. (Sun and Apple haven't always had
the best of relationships...)

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Jolly Roger - 20 May 2008 21:20 GMT

> > No. If Sun would get off their a.ses and release a Mac version of Java
> > like they do for Windows, there would be a separate port, but so far,
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> wouldn't release their own version. (Sun and Apple haven't always had
> the best of relationships...)

That wouldn't surprise me.

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Megadave - 21 May 2008 02:16 GMT

> > > No. If Sun would get off their a.ses and release a Mac version of Java
> > > like they do for Windows, there would be a separate port, but so far,
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>
> That wouldn't surprise me.

And that's pretty much accurate..

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Megadave - 20 May 2008 02:52 GMT

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> I see there is a developer release of Java 1.6 SE ( or whatever ) for
> only 64-bit Intel Macs. What about the rest of us? ;-)

Soylatte for j00

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/

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Jolly Roger - 20 May 2008 04:26 GMT

> In article
> <09efe026-b487-473f-8341-c2aaf0331377@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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> http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/

Thanks for posting this. :)

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