>> > Anyone able to provide more detailed advice and counsel, or pointers
>> > to same, for potential use of Rockbox technology on iPods (or any
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>> Well, I would try it on a cheap used ipod first to see if you like it..
You risk no damage to the ipod, worst case scenario you screw the boot
partition over on the ipod and have to run the ipod updater. It's dual-
boot as well, so long as you don't have a 6g classic or anything newer
then the 1g nano it'll run.
> How difficult or tricky is it to install this, on the iPod and on the
> Mac?
Its a 30 second install, if that. You risk no damage to the ipod either,
worst case scenario you screw the boot partition over on the ipod and
have to run the ipod updater.
There may be ONE issue. If your ipod just happens to be hfsplus (mac
formatted), rockbox will not work on it.. my 4g ipod is this way,
ipodlinux runs on it, but not rockbox. You'll want it to be fat32 in
order to put rockbox on. You'll know if it is if windows can read it.
Here's the two major install steps:
1. run a script that modifies the bootloader in the ipod to dual boot
between rockbox and ipodos.
2. unpack rockbox.zip onto the ipod
That's it... then just hold menu and select on the ipod until it reboots
and make sure the hold switch is off. It'll reboot into rockbox.
That should help you.
Joe
Tim Lance - 19 Mar 2008 11:54 GMT
>>>> Anyone able to provide more detailed advice and counsel, or pointers
>>>> to same, for potential use of Rockbox technology on iPods (or any
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> Joe
Just started looking into this, like, 5 minutes ago.
About that drive format. I did just reformat (LONG story) and suspect it's
HFS+ (will check when I get to work). What format does Rockbox expect? I
assume the original but that is? HFS? Would appreciate any clues.
Thanks,

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Joe Kappus - 19 Mar 2008 19:12 GMT
>>>>> Anyone able to provide more detailed advice and counsel, or pointers
>>>>> to same, for potential use of Rockbox technology on iPods (or any
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> Thanks,
Rockbox needs FAT32, they never wrote a HFS+ driver for it. I know for a
fact OSX can format either FS.
I think since the 5g ipod was released Apple now ships out its ipods in
FAT32 format by default. There used to be different packaging for the
mac ipod vs. the windows ipod.
Joe
Tim Lance - 19 Mar 2008 19:29 GMT
>>>>>> Anyone able to provide more detailed advice and counsel, or pointers
>>>>>> to same, for potential use of Rockbox technology on iPods (or any
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> Joe
Thanks. Something to play with on my 2nd Generation iPod.

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Lewis - 19 Mar 2008 23:47 GMT
> Rockbox needs FAT32, they never wrote a HFS+ driver for it. I know for a
> fact OSX can format either FS.
>
> I think since the 5g ipod was released Apple now ships out its ipods in
> FAT32 format by default. There used to be different packaging for the
> mac ipod vs. the windows ipod.
No. The iPod was formatted FAT32 if your initial connection of it was to a
windows machine, otherwise it was (left) HFS+.
However, I don't know abut the newer iPods, they may well be FAT32. My 3G
is HFS+ since I was able to use it to install Tiger onto a CD-only G3 iMac
and Leopard onto my G4 iBook.

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Joe Kappus - 22 Mar 2008 01:30 GMT
>> Rockbox needs FAT32, they never wrote a HFS+ driver for it. I know for
>> a fact OSX can format either FS.
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> 3G is HFS+ since I was able to use it to install Tiger onto a CD-only G3
> iMac and Leopard onto my G4 iBook.
You didn't read well enough, I said since the 5G. Maybe I was wrong
about the separate packaging, but I do know that my 4g was hfs+ from the
factory and again when it was replaced on warranty. I kept it that way
and wrote the ipodlinux hfs+ guide, I had issues with garbled files on
FAT32, but on HFS+ I did not have the same. Finally the OSX filesystem
tools were ported to linux and everything's good now.
Joe
Lewis - 22 Mar 2008 14:38 GMT
>>> Rockbox needs FAT32, they never wrote a HFS+ driver for it. I know for
>>> a fact OSX can format either FS.
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>> 3G is HFS+ since I was able to use it to install Tiger onto a CD-only G3
>> iMac and Leopard onto my G4 iBook.
> You didn't read well enough, I said since the 5G.
Actually, YOU didn't read well enough since I was responding to your 'separate
packaging' which as far a I know never happened. Since I was around a lot of
iPods from 1G to 4G. I have a 5G, but I've never checked its formatting.
Let me look now.
Nope, my 5G ipod is HFS+ (journaled)
I don't have a 5.5G or an iTouch, so I can't check those.

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Joe Kappus - 23 Mar 2008 06:39 GMT
>>>> Rockbox needs FAT32, they never wrote a HFS+ driver for it. I know
>>>> for a fact OSX can format either FS.
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> I don't have a 5.5G or an iTouch, so I can't check those.
Hey hey hey, didn't mean to come off harsh. I may have been wrong on the
packaging, I will try to see if anyone has the older boxes (I may have
the 4g box still around, I know the 5g says mac+pc)... The only other
packaging difference I remember is the 4g HP branded ipods, which I also
used to have. I'm pretty sure those came FAT32 formatted.
I don't remember separate packaging at all for the 2g, and I really
didn't pay attention to the 3g (I HATE touch buttons). Never dealt with
1g, always wanted to get a scrap one and revive it.
The 5.5g ipod has a weird drive layout which prevents it from being
correctly mac formatted in linux... I don't know if the tools have been
rewritten yet to correct for the large sector size, but I've still yet to
see a factory hfs+-formatted.
I find it interesting though that yours is journaled, which suggests it
was formatted at home. I highly doubt Apple would ship mac formatted
ipods with journaling enabled, on a portable volume like that it just
adds storage overhead and slows performance negligibly. This is just
speculation however, they might actually do it, it can't really hurt
anything else.
Joe