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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / March 2008Is there an Address Book app for OSX that actually works when synced?
Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as hard numerical values scares me - it really does. So is there Address Book app that will actually work when synced? One that won't periodically corrupt all dates? TIA, Jamie Kahn Genet  SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as > hard numerical values scares me - it really does. > > So is there Address Book app that will actually work when synced? One > that won't periodically corrupt all dates? Entourage 2004's address book never does anything of the sort when I synchronize it with my Treo 700p. (Something tells me you won't find that very useful though. : ) SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR > > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > synchronize it with my Treo 700p. (Something tells me you won't find > that very useful though. : ) Hmmm... next month I will be getting the latest Office for Mac as part of a deal with work. I figure it will be handy to open the occasional complex office document I have trouble with now. It's only NZD$12.95 as part of the deal work (and educational institute) have with MS for their employees. Anyway - I take it Entourage is included? Or is that only some versions of Office? Which do I want to see if I can get? How well does Entourage work with IMAP Google Apps mail? TIA, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > Hmmm... next month I will be getting the latest Office for Mac as part > of a deal with work. I figure it will be handy to open the occasional [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Anyway - I take it Entourage is included? Or is that only some versions > of Office? Which do I want to see if I can get? It's included with all versions, but the "educational version" does NOT contain the exchange server stuff. It does however contain 3 keycodes which in my case lets me put it on my notebook and my desktop and have one left over. The deal I got had two options (for 6.99 US upgrade) the full version or the student version with MS Expression media thrown in. So it was a choice of 3 keycodes or exchange server support. Since we don't use exchange server, it was a no brainer for me. > How well does Entourage work with IMAP Google Apps mail? I don't know. dick > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > TIA, > Jamie Kahn Genet Countless people use Address Book and sync it with their .Mac accounts without any difficulties -- myself included. So rather than complaining, perhaps you could provide more insight into what's actually going wrong to see whether someone might be able to provide suggestions. SignatureSteve W. Jackson Montgomery, Alabama > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as > hard numerical values scares me - it really does. What dates is it changing? SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. > > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as > > hard numerical values scares me - it really does. > > What dates is it changing? The most noticeable is birthdays. Every couple months they'll be moved one day into the future. SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > > > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > > > Thought that Apple employs people stupid enough not to code dates as [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The most noticeable is birthdays. Every couple months they'll be moved > one day into the future. Hmm.. I've had my family members's birthdates in Address book since at least 10.1. Checking just now and everyone has the same birthdate they've always had. I sync with .Mac hourly and have done so since syncing with .Mac was possible. The only thing I've ever seen get changed is MY birth year, and I have no idea when exactly that happened or why. Sometime in 2005. SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. Can you step us through an example? I haven't seen that problem. -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > Apple's Address Book keeps changing dates when it's synced with .Mac. > > Can you step us through an example? I haven't seen that problem. > > -j There's nothing to really step you through :-( All that occurs is dates are moved one day into the future now and again. I suspect Apple doesn't store dates as numerical values (very dumb if that is the case) so time zone funkiness is to blame. *taking a wild guess here* Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >> Can you step us through an example? I haven't seen that problem. > There's nothing to really step you through :-( All that occurs is dates > are moved one day into the future now and again. Please don't make people have to guess at the problem you are observing. What dates are are talking about? A birthdate? When do you see the problem? When you create an entry with a data on one machine, and sync via .Mac to another machine? If your goal is to bitch about the problem, you've succeeded. If your goal is to solve the problem, you haven't helped much. -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > >> Can you step us through an example? I haven't seen that problem. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Please don't make people have to guess at the problem you are observing. > What dates are are talking about? A birthdate? Those are the most noticeable, yes. > When do you see the problem? When you create an entry with a data on one > machine, and sync via .Mac to another machine? Yes, or it can happen when syncing is only happening between one Mac and .Mac (I don't always have the others logged on, of course). The correct dates will be in Address Book, but the dates will have be altered on the .mac side resulted in bad dates being synced back. Of course sometimes I get warnings about changed data, but I EXPECT this as of course the whole point is to sync changes. But I suppose I'll be forced to always manually review changes. What a drag :-( > If your goal is to bitch about the problem, you've succeeded. If your > goal is to solve the problem, you haven't helped much. > > -j I honestly don't know what else I can say. .mac syncing is broken and always has been. Bitching is all that's left to me. .Mac support has proved useless :-( Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >> When do you see the problem? When you create an entry with a data on one >> machine, and sync via .Mac to another machine? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > whole point is to sync changes. But I suppose I'll be forced to always > manually review changes. What a drag :-( OK. Thanks. That is a useful description of the problem. Unfortunately, I don't have a useful solution for you. All I can say is the dreaded, "Well it hasn't happened to me as far as I've noticed." May I ask what timezone you are in and whether that changes dramatically? But I'm grasping at straws. You said that you suspected that it might have something to do with how Address Book represents dates internally. Could you elaborate on that? >> If your goal is to bitch about the problem, you've succeeded. If your >> goal is to solve the problem, you haven't helped much. > I honestly don't know what else I can say. .mac syncing is broken and > always has been. Bitching is all that's left to me. .Mac support has > proved useless :-( I've had my share of troubles with .Mac syncing. And the problems can be so erratic that I understand that they are hard to describe. My apologies for my initial skepticism. Cheers, -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > >> When do you see the problem? When you create an entry with a data on one > >> machine, and sync via .Mac to another machine? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't have a useful solution for you. All I can say is the dreaded, > "Well it hasn't happened to me as far as I've noticed." Yeah, that's basically the response from .Mac support - mild bafflement. > May I ask what timezone you are in and whether that changes dramatically? > But I'm grasping at straws. New Zealand, and not that I've noticed. > You said that you suspected that it might have something to do with how > Address Book represents dates internally. Could you elaborate on that? It's only a hunch based on the dates always moving ahead one day. In actuality I don't know WTF is going on :-( Then again - neither do .Mac support either. > >> If your goal is to bitch about the problem, you've succeeded. If your > >> goal is to solve the problem, you haven't helped much. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -j It's ok, I know I was pretty annoyed when I posted - never a great idea, heh. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. |
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