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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / March 2008MT-NewsWatcher and filters
I am a long-time MT-NewsWatcher user. Until a few days ago, setting up a filter worked fine. Now, MT-NewsWatcher generates a segmentation fault and crashes. Even if I start to set up a filter and I click the cancel button in the filter window, it will crash. I am using the latest version under Mac OS X 10.5.2 on a MacBook Pro first generation. Has anyone else here had that problem? If so, were you able to fix it? I tried emailing the author, but I haven't heard back yet. > I am a long-time MT-NewsWatcher user. Until a few days ago, setting up a > filter worked fine. Now, MT-NewsWatcher generates a segmentation fault [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Has anyone else here had that problem? If so, were you able to fix it? I > tried emailing the author, but I haven't heard back yet. What does the crash log say?  SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-153356.07564413032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > I am a long-time MT-NewsWatcher user. Until a few days ago, setting up a > > filter worked fine. Now, MT-NewsWatcher generates a segmentation fault [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What does the crash log say? Good question. It looks like gibberish to me, but maybe you or someone else might understand it, so here's my most recent MT-NewsWatcher crash log ... ********** Host Name: stanley-horwitzs-computer-2 Date/Time: 2007-03-16 22:12:04.717 -0400 OS Version: 10.4.9 (Build 8P2137) Report Version: 4 Command: MT-NewsWatcher Path: /Applications/MT-NewsWatcher 5.2/MT-NewsWatcher.app/Contents/MacOS/MT-NewsWatcher Parent: WindowServer [95] Version: ??? 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0x96de2fff com.apple.AppleShareClientCore 1.5.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/AppleShareClientCore.framework/Versions/A/Appl eShareClientCore 0x9978b000 - 0x997a8fff com.apple.OpenTransport 3.0 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/OpenTransport.framework/OpenTransport It doesn't like something in your clipboard. Try copying a simple piece of text first. SignatureI don't read Google's spam. Reply with another service. > It doesn't like something in your clipboard. Try copying a simple piece > of text first. I just did that. No joy. With MTNW open, I started Text Edit, typed some text, copied it to the clipboard (Command-C), then pasted the same text back into the same document (Command-V). Then I went back to MTNW and tried to set up a filter and it crashed again on me. Is there some way I can reset the clipboard other than copying text to it? > > It doesn't like something in your clipboard. Try copying a simple piece > > of text first. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Is there some way I can reset the clipboard other than copying text to > it? Do you have some sort of clipboard extender installed? Is there a reason you've not updated to 10.4.11? You should also try the beta of MTNW, despite being tagged as a Leopard update, it IS an update and it's solved issues for a couple of other people. The current version is 3.5.3b2 last I checked. SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. > > > It doesn't like something in your clipboard. Try copying a simple piece > > > of text first. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > The current version is 3.5.3b2 last I checked. I am running the latest version of MT-NewsWatcher; I installed it a few days ago, but this problem persists. Sorry if I didn't say so earlier by I am running Mac OS X 10.5.2, not Tiger. I have a fairly vanilla system, and definitely no clipboard extender. Thanks for your response. > Sorry if I didn't say so earlier by > I am running Mac OS X 10.5.2, not Tiger. The crash log you posted said 10.4.9 and MTNW 3.5.2 SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. > > Sorry if I didn't say so earlier by > > I am running Mac OS X 10.5.2, not Tiger. > > The crash log you posted said 10.4.9 and MTNW 3.5.2 It also said the crash occurred about a year ago. It's not the log from his current problem. SignatureBarry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** > The current version is 3.5.3b2 last I checked. This is a test SignatureGod does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of his own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players, to being involved in an obscure and complex ver- sion of poker in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time. > In article > <jollyroger-153356.07564413032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9088b7d1 > CFPasteboardGetItemAtIndex + 143 As Michelle stated, something on your clipboard is in a format which MT-NewsWatcher apparently can't handle. The clue here is the reference to CFPasteboard just before the crash. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-EE440C.23045113032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > In article > > <jollyroger-153356.07564413032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > MT-NewsWatcher apparently can't handle. The clue here is the reference > to CFPasteboard just before the crash. How do I find out what is wrong with my clipboard? Pasting new stuff into it hasn't put an end to this problem. > In article > <jollyroger-EE440C.23045113032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > How do I find out what is wrong with my clipboard? Pasting new stuff > into it hasn't put an end to this problem. Well I can't imagine why MTNW would be looking at the clipboard when you close the filter dialog box. It's strange, to say the least. And it's certainly possible nothing is wrong with your clipboard at all. It's possible your MTNW preferences file is corrupt in some way. Try this: 1. Quit MTNW. 2. In the Finder, move this file to the desktop: ~/Library/Preferences/MT-NewsWatcher Prefs Ÿ/MT-NewsWatcher Prefs 3. Run MTNW again. 4. Create a filter to see if it crashes. Since the "MT-NewsWatcher Prefs" file contains all MTNW settings, you'll have to go through the steps of configuring MTNW during the test. Once you are done with the test, just quit MTNW and move the preferences file from the desktop back to its original location. Your settings will return. It's also possible your filters preference file is corrupt in some way. You could try the same test procedure with this file as well: ~/Library/Preferences/MT-NewsWatcher Prefs Ÿ/MT-Newswatcher Filters Luckily, if the filters preference file is bad, the fix is easy: 1. Run MTNW. 2. From the menu bar, choose Windows > Filters List. 3. From the menu bar, choose File > Export and save the filters to an XML file. 4. Quit MTNW. 5. Delete the "MT-Newswatcher Filters" file. 6. Run MTNW again. 7. From the menu bar, choose Windows > Filters List. 8. Drag the XML file you saved from the Finder and drop it onto the Filters List window. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-5451A0.00080015032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > In article > > <jollyroger-EE440C.23045113032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > 8. Drag the XML file you saved from the Finder and drop it onto the > Filters List window. Thanks Jolly Roger; I tried both ideas. Neither helped. I also decided to try MT-NewsWatcher on my PowerMac G5 to see if it has the same problem as my MacBook Pro. I want to set up a filter to kill off all postings that have an organization header set to groups.google.com so I can stop seeing all the massive spam my server hosts from there. As soon as I tried it on my G5, you guessed it. MT-NewsWatcher failed. Same error as on my MBP. I also tried upgrading to the latest version. Same difference. Crash. This is taking up way too much time. I have already spent a week on this issue to no avail. I appreciate your help, but I think its time to cut my losses and look at other options for Usenet news such as Unison. Thanks again for your help. > I tried both ideas. Neither helped. I also decided to try MT-NewsWatcher > on my PowerMac G5 to see if it has the same problem as my MacBook Pro. I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > issue to no avail. I appreciate your help, but I think its time to cut > my losses and look at other options for Usenet news such as Unison. One last thing to try before you throw in the towel: Rather than filtering on "Organization", try filtering on "Message-ID" contains "googlegroups" instead. What's frustrating to me is I have never seen another person report this problem - yet you seem to be having it on multiple computers! Very strange. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-F5DC72.12372516032008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, > > I tried both ideas. Neither helped. I also decided to try MT-NewsWatcher > > on my PowerMac G5 to see if it has the same problem as my MacBook Pro. I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > problem - yet you seem to be having it on multiple computers! Very > strange. No matter which type of filter I try to create, MT-NewsWatcher crashes. In fact, if I open up the filters window, then just wait, it'll crash. Perhaps its because I share a newsgroup file that this problem occurs on both Macs. I will try it without opening up my newsgroups file and see what happens. Thanks again for the suggestion. > In article > <jollyroger-F5DC72.12372516032008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Thanks again for the suggestion. Okay. I normally start MT-NewsWatcher on either of my Macs by clicking on a shared newsgroup file which I keep on the Dock on both Macs. This opens up the file and MT-NewsWatcher. As a test, I went into my Applications folder on my G5 and I started MT-NewsWatcher without opening up my newsgroup file at all. I then tried putting in a filter, but it crashed again. Sigh! I really would like to continue using MT-NewsWatcher, but this problem has me stumped. > Okay. I normally start MT-NewsWatcher on either of my Macs by clicking > on a shared newsgroup file which I keep on the Dock on both Macs. This [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I really would like to continue using MT-NewsWatcher, but this problem > has me stumped. I forget if you tried this already: Have you tried creating a new Mac OS X user account to see if it crashes there? SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > I forget if you tried this already: Have you tried creating a new Mac > OS X user account to see if it crashes there? Or for the hell of it, has he looked at his filters in the Windows->'Show Filters List' to see if anything is fubar. You can cut old filters there. And I agree with Message-ID as the way to make googlegroups disappear. Kill if 'Message-ID' contains "googlegroups" in the * directory just eliminated a mountain of garbage for me, and I ain't going back. My only other thought is to trash everthing associated with MTNW and reinstall it. I've never seen the problem. leo In article <leoblaisdell-9F58DB.16400016032008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > In article > <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the * directory just eliminated a mountain of garbage for me, and I > ain't going back. Thanks for the tip about filtering on Message-ID. Its a great idea once I get this problem fixed. I did try opening up Windows->Show Filters and modifying a filter rule there, but it also triggers a crash. > My only other thought is to trash everthing associated with MTNW and > reinstall it. I've never seen the problem. I might try that. > Thanks for the tip about filtering on Message-ID. Its a great idea once > I get this problem fixed. Jolly Roger did that. I only reinforced his post with my new and nearly religious belief. leo In article <leoblaisdell-9F58DB.16400016032008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > In article > <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > leo I am an admin user. The prefs and filters files are stored in the directory that MT-NW created when it was installed. I looked at the Windows->Show filters list and as soon as I try to modify a filter from that list, MT-NW crashes. Even deleting the filters and preferences files does not fix the problem. Trashing MT-NW and all its associated files is a good idea. I will give that a shot and see what happens after reinstalling it. In article <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > Okay. I normally start MT-NewsWatcher on either of my Macs by clicking > > on a shared newsgroup file which I keep on the Dock on both Macs. This [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I forget if you tried this already: Have you tried creating a new Mac > OS X user account to see if it crashes there? Good idea. I just tried doing starting MT-NW on my test account. Much to my surprise, when I went to create a filter, it worked this time. So I wonder why it fails on my own non-test account. I wonder what's different about the two accounts that could cause MT-NW to crash on two computers. > So I wonder why it fails on my own non-test account. I wonder what's > different about the two accounts that could cause MT-NW to crash on > two computers. It sounds like you may have a corrupt preferences file. SignatureJoe Claffey | "In the end, everything is a gag." indianajoe3@comcast.net | - Charlie Chaplin > > So I wonder why it fails on my own non-test account. I wonder what's > > different about the two accounts that could cause MT-NW to crash on > > two computers. > > It sounds like you may have a corrupt preferences file. It could be many things, but that's a definite possibility. Unfortunately, it's probably *not* the MTNW prefs file, because the OP has already tried moving that out of the preferences folder with no change in results. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR > > So I wonder why it fails on my own non-test account. I wonder what's > > different about the two accounts that could cause MT-NW to crash on > > two computers. > > It sounds like you may have a corrupt preferences file. That's what I was thinking tonight. So with that in mind, on my PowerMac G5, I just deleted (trashed and emptied trash) everything in the MT-NewsWatcher preferences folder (prefs, filter file, and junk learning file), then I started MT-NW. I reconfigured MT-NW for my news server, and as soon as I tried creating a new filter, when I clicked on the advanced tab, it crashed again! This happens if I use my shared newsrc file and if I don't use it. Shrug! :( > That's what I was thinking tonight. So with that in mind, on my PowerMac > G5, I just deleted (trashed and emptied trash) everything in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Shrug! :( Where are the preferences stored? Are you an admin user? Is this some obscure permissions thing, like you can write to the file but you're not allowed to read from it? So many answers, so few questions. SignatureW. Oates > In article > <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > different about the two accounts that could cause MT-NW to crash on two > computers. Ah! Well at least we're finally getting somewhere! I was really worried that we weren't going to be able to find the cause. With this new user, are you sharing the newsrc file? Something related to that comes to mind: Can you verify that the method by which you connect to the remote volume holding that shared newsrc file is the same on the non-working account and the working new user account? In the Finder, File > Get Info on the volume in each account and verify the connection protocol is the same (afp://, smb://, etc.). SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-F9E1D9.22592516032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > In article > > <jollyroger-2A1A83.15494316032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > account? In the Finder, File > Get Info on the volume in each account > and verify the connection protocol is the same (afp://, smb://, etc.). I did not share the newsrc file with the new account. I connect using the standard Apple file protocol afp. Since I didn''t try sharing my newsrc file via my test account, there's nothing to compare in that regard. On my primary account, I also tried opening MT-NW without accessing my shared newsrc file (just double-clicking on the MT-NW icon) and it too crashed when I tried doing anything with filters so I don't think my shared newsrc file is the culprit. [... test under new user account] > Much to > my surprise, when I went to create a filter, it worked this time. [...] In a new user account, assuming you didn't copy over any prefs files, MT-NW will create a new filter file in the default location. Given that that apparently works fine, your regular filters file might well be corrupted. (Or was that ruled out already?) Btw, I assume you have already made sure all this is not simply due to file system corruption? Another thing to check is whether MT-NW knows the location of your filters file. (Can be set in its prefs.) SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" [...] > > No matter which type of filter I try to create, MT-NewsWatcher crashes. > [...] > I normally start MT-NewsWatcher on either of my Macs by clicking > on a shared newsgroup file which I keep on the Dock on both Macs. This > opens up the file and MT-NewsWatcher. What exactly does "shared" mean? Does the file live on one Mac, and is it being served, over afp, to another? If so, I'd simplify that set-up to use a local file (created afresh) on each Mac and see if the problem disappears. If so, look into the details of your sharing scheme and fix what's wrong with it. If you're sharing any further MT-NW files (filter file, prefs, etc.) I'd try the same: check whether the problem disappears when you let MT-NW use (freshly created) local files instead. FWIW, MT-NW can auto-fetch/upload newsrc files over ftp, which has worked reliably for me for some 10 years. It would be comfortable to be able to do something similar with its filters file I suppose, but I've never tried and would not be entirely surprised if doing so would introduce problems. SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > disappears. If so, look into the details of your sharing scheme and fix > what's wrong with it. The file that contains the list of subscribed groups lives on a Mac server. I access that file from either of the two Macs that I use directly (i.e., the clients). I have been doing it this way for several years without a problem. > If you're sharing any further MT-NW files (filter file, prefs, etc.) I'd > try the same: check whether the problem disappears when you let MT-NW > use (freshly created) local files instead. I am not sharing any other files involving MT-NW. If I just start up MT-NW without loading my newsgroups file, it still crashes on either Mac when I try to modify any filter (even from the filter list window). > FWIW, MT-NW can auto-fetch/upload newsrc files over ftp, which has > worked reliably for me for some 10 years. It would be comfortable to be > able to do something similar with its filters file I suppose, but I've > never tried and would not be entirely surprised if doing so would > introduce problems. I am not doing that, just sharing the newsrc file. > > FWIW, MT-NW can auto-fetch/upload newsrc files over ftp, which has > > worked reliably for me for some 10 years. It would be comfortable to be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I am not doing that, just sharing the newsrc file. You might try doing it the "proper" way by starting the FTP server on the server and hosting the file there - just to see if there is any change in behavior. The neat thing about doing it this way is you don't have to mount any volumes. It just happens behind the scenes. I've used this method of sharing my newsrc file for a long time now, and it's really nice. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR In article <jollyroger-C88E77.23022616032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > > FWIW, MT-NW can auto-fetch/upload newsrc files over ftp, which has > > > worked reliably for me for some 10 years. It would be comfortable to be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > this method of sharing my newsrc file for a long time now, and it's > really nice. Unfortunately, ftp is an insecure protocol and my network administrator hasn't opened the port for it for the server I have in my office. > In article ><jollyroger-C88E77.23022616032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, >> You might try doing it the "proper" way by starting the FTP server on >> the server > Unfortunately, ftp is an insecure protocol and my network administrator > hasn't opened the port for it for the server I have in my office. I'm currently sharing my newsrc file between slrn and MTNW by simply setting up ftp on my machine locally. It seems to be working just fine, and no external ports are ever accessed. BTW, it is silly to disallow ftp on a LAN. to the outside world, sure I wouldn't allow it. But maybe your server is not local to you? SignatureThree tomatoes are walking down the street- a poppa tomato, a momma tomato, and a little baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. Poppa tomato gets angry, goes over to the baby tomato, and smooshes him, "Catch up." > > In article > ><jollyroger-C88E77.23022616032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > BTW, it is silly to disallow ftp on a LAN. to the outside world, sure I > wouldn't allow it. But maybe your server is not local to you? I agree; however, the Mac that shares out my files is several miles from the two Macs where I use those files. My Mac file server is on a relatively publicly accessible network, so I need to be very careful about which ports are open and how I access it. > I am not sharing any other files involving MT-NW. If I just start up > MT-NW without loading my newsgroups file, it still crashes on either Mac > when I try to modify any filter (even from the filter list window). Have you tried deleting the filters file(s)? (~/Library/Prefeernces/MT-NewsWatcher Prefs/) Maybe some obscure character code or whatever in there, crashes the app trying to read it. SignatureW. Oates > > I am not sharing any other files involving MT-NW. If I just start up > > MT-NW without loading my newsgroups file, it still crashes on either Mac > > when I try to modify any filter (even from the filter list window). > > Have you tried deleting the filters file(s)? > (~/Library/Prefeernces/MT-NewsWatcher Prefs/) He tried moving it to the desktop. SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. JR |
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