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Howard Brazee - 12 Mar 2008 02:00 GMT
The MT-Newswatcher says that I should tell Mail to make it my default
reader.  It already is.   But that's all I have been able to find to set
up MT-Newswatcher so that I can forward a message to an e-mail address.
AES - 12 Mar 2008 03:56 GMT
> The MT-Newswatcher says that I should tell Mail to make it my default
> reader.  It already is.   But that's all I have been able to find to set
> up MT-Newswatcher so that I can forward a message to an e-mail address.

Special -> Personalities menu is at least part of the solution.
Warren Oates - 12 Mar 2008 13:08 GMT
> The MT-Newswatcher says that I should tell Mail to make it my default
> reader.  It already is.   But that's all I have been able to find to set
> up MT-Newswatcher so that I can forward a message to an e-mail address.

When you compose a message, there are 3 buttons at the top: Post News,
Send Email, Copy Self.  You can choose among them by selecting and
deselecting. When you select "Send Email" it adds a To: field to the
headers. Be careful of munged addresses.
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Howard Brazee - 12 Mar 2008 16:30 GMT
>> The MT-Newswatcher says that I should tell Mail to make it my default
>> reader.  It already is.   But that's all I have been able to find to set
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>deselecting. When you select "Send Email" it adds a To: field to the
>headers. Be careful of munged addresses.

I was hesitant about adding my e-mail settings because I have
accidentally checked the e-mail.   It always fails.   Finally I wanted
to forward a message, so I looked for where I add the e-mail settings,
didn't find it then checked the MT-NewsWatcher help menu.   It told me
that if I used Mail, go to the Mail preference to set it as my default
mailer (which it already was).
Barry Margolin - 13 Mar 2008 00:16 GMT
> >> The MT-Newswatcher says that I should tell Mail to make it my default
> >> reader.  It already is.   But that's all I have been able to find to set
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> that if I used Mail, go to the Mail preference to set it as my default
> mailer (which it already was).

I just looked at a few of the Help items ("Replying to Articles" and
"Forwarding Articles"), and didn't see any that said this.

MT-NW has its own, built-in SMTP client.  You configure it in
Special->Personalities, in the Mail Server tab.

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Arlington, MA
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Warren Oates - 13 Mar 2008 01:25 GMT
> MT-NW has its own, built-in SMTP client.  You configure it in
> Special->Personalities, in the Mail Server tab.

If you configure it to send thru 127.0.0.1, it will. If you point it at
your ISP's server, it will sent it out there. I've rarely used it
(except by accident), but I know it works.
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Barry Margolin - 13 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT
> > MT-NW has its own, built-in SMTP client.  You configure it in
> > Special->Personalities, in the Mail Server tab.
>
> If you configure it to send thru 127.0.0.1, it will. If you point it at
> your ISP's server, it will sent it out there. I've rarely used it
> (except by accident), but I know it works.

I'm not sure what you're saying.  What does "it will" refer to?  I said
it has its own *client*, not server.  The software that sends trough the
ISP's server is the SMTP client.

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Arlington, MA
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Warren Oates - 14 Mar 2008 12:51 GMT
> I'm not sure what you're saying.  What does "it will" refer to?  I said
> it has its own *client*, not server.  The software that sends trough the
> ISP's server is the SMTP client.

The "client" has to communicate with the serverto both send and receive
mail. MTNW's "client" will hand off mail to whatever server you specify
in Personalities/Mail Server. Make sure you get the authentication
details right. My ISP blocks port 25, so I can't use my internal
sendmail (postfix, whatever), but they quit  happily accept mail from
MTNW.

Here's some headers from an email I sent myself from MTNW just now:

From: Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
To: warren.oates@gmail.com
Subject: test ignore
Organization: The Lady in Red Inc.
User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b2 (Intel Mac OS X)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:42:25 -0400

arrived quite happily in my Gmail inbox within seconds. Note that I
didn't override the User-Agent header for mail, only for news. It's
quite a clever little mail sender. I don't think you can set it up to
actually receive mail, though.
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Barry Margolin - 15 Mar 2008 04:48 GMT
> > I'm not sure what you're saying.  What does "it will" refer to?  I said
> > it has its own *client*, not server.  The software that sends trough the
> > ISP's server is the SMTP client.
>
> The "client" has to communicate with the serverto both send and receive
> mail.

An SMTP client sends mail.  A POP or IMAP client receives mail.  Mail
readers, like Mail.app and Thunderbird, contain both; MT-NW just
contains the former.

> MTNW's "client" will hand off mail to whatever server you specify
> in Personalities/Mail Server. Make sure you get the authentication
> details right. My ISP blocks port 25, so I can't use my internal
> sendmail (postfix, whatever), but they quit  happily accept mail from
> MTNW.

I know all that.  That's exactly what I was referring to when I wrote,
"MT-NW has a built-in SMTP client."  I'm trying to understand the point
you were making when you replied "If you configure it to send thru
127.0.0.1, it will."  It will *what*?  I never said it wouldn't do
something, yet you seemed to be correcting such a statement.

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