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American Heritage Dictionary--I miss it.

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Salmon Egg - 07 Mar 2008 22:42 GMT
With Leopard, I can no longer run lagacy applications with OS9. Among
those apps I miss is the American Heritage Pronouncing Dictionary. t had
the capability of finding words from definitions and provided anagrams
as well. While I would curse at it because it lacked certain
capabilities that I would have liked.

What is available now to meet my needs?

Bill
AES - 07 Mar 2008 23:03 GMT
> With Leopard, I can no longer run lagacy applications with OS9. Among
> those apps I miss is the American Heritage Pronouncing Dictionary. t had
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>
> Bill

Agreed -- I liked the AHED dictionary very much also, both for
capabilities and especially its interface, and miss it.

There's a Merriam Webster online/CD, whose interface I actively dislike.

And there's the built-in Apple/OS X Dictionary app, which is not at all
"insanely great" -- meaning its interface is nowhere near as nice as was
IHED, but it's not too bad.  If you stick it in the Dock, you can open
it quickly for quick lookups;  I think there are some other interface
tricks for getting at it.
John Varela - 08 Mar 2008 02:52 GMT
> And there's the built-in Apple/OS X Dictionary app, which is not at all
> "insanely great" -- meaning its interface is nowhere near as nice as was
> IHED, but it's not too bad.  If you stick it in the Dock, you can open it
> quickly for quick lookups;  I think there are some other interface tricks for

> getting at it.

You can open it with a Dashboard widget.

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Mirsky - 08 Mar 2008 05:26 GMT
> > And there's the built-in Apple/OS X Dictionary app, which is not at all
> > "insanely great" -- meaning its interface is nowhere near as nice as was
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>
> You can open it with a Dashboard widget.

There is a newer version of the American Heritage Dictionary that works
with OS 10.5 available from Houghton Mifflin:

http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/eref/buy.jsp

The only downside is that it's PPC so it will run in Rosetta
gtr - 08 Mar 2008 16:45 GMT
>>> And there's the built-in Apple/OS X Dictionary app, which is not at all
>>> "insanely great" -- meaning its interface is nowhere near as nice as was
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>
> The only downside is that it's PPC so it will run in Rosetta

I know there would be a good reason to have bought my PPC iMac 3 weeks
before the intel machines came out.  Vindicated!
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Mike Rosenberg - 08 Mar 2008 19:31 GMT
> > The only downside is that it's PPC so it will run in Rosetta
>
> I know there would be a good reason to have bought my PPC iMac 3 weeks
> before the intel machines came out.  Vindicated!

That simply means it's not as fast on an Intel Mac as it would be if it
were a Universal app.

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AES - 08 Mar 2008 20:47 GMT
> > There is a newer version of the American Heritage Dictionary that works
> > with OS 10.5 available from Houghton Mifflin:
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> I know there would be a good reason to have bought my PPC iMac 3 weeks
> before the intel machines came out.  Vindicated!

I've not kept up with the intricacies of "Rosetta".  As a practical
matter, does the above mean that this newer version of the AHED
dictionary will in fact "just run" in 10.5 on an Intel machine, with
some invisible emulator invoked internally?  -- Or is more than that
required?

And is the implication that it _won't_ run on a MacBook under 10.4?

[And as an OT note, my impression is that Mathematica runs _much_ faster
on my new MacBook than it did on my previous iBook.]
Mike Rosenberg - 08 Mar 2008 21:04 GMT
> I've not kept up with the intricacies of "Rosetta".

Well, there are no intricacies to keep up with.

> As a practical matter, does the above mean that this newer version of the
> AHED dictionary will in fact "just run" in 10.5 on an Intel machine, with
> some invisible emulator invoked internally?  -- Or is more than that
> required?
>
> And is the implication that it _won't_ run on a MacBook under 10.4?

A MacBook won't boot 10.4 at all.  No Intel Mac will boot anything prior
to 10.4.5 (or is that 10.4.6?).  Anyway, I can't speak to the previous
poster's implication, but your inference is wrong.  All Intel Macs
running Tiger or Leopard can run most all PPC software via Rosetta.
And, yes, the PPC software does "just run."  It is _not_ analogous to
running Classic apps in Mac OS X prior to Leopard.

> [And as an OT note, my impression is that Mathematica runs _much_ faster
> on my new MacBook than it did on my previous iBook.]

That's really not relevant to gtr's situation, since he's talking about
the last G5 iMac model vs the first Intel model.  You're talking about a
much bigger jump in processor speed.

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David Empson - 09 Mar 2008 05:48 GMT
> > As a practical matter, does the above mean that this newer version of the
> > AHED dictionary will in fact "just run" in 10.5 on an Intel machine, with
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> A MacBook won't boot 10.4 at all.  No Intel Mac will boot anything prior
> to 10.4.5 (or is that 10.4.6?).

(In this case, I think AES was referring to "10.4" in the generic sense
of "Tiger", not that specific version.)

The developer preview model came with 10.4.2 or 10.4.3, but nobody
should have one of those any more so it is a moot point now.

The earliest publically available Intel Mac models came with 10.4.4.

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Jeffrey Goldberg - 09 Mar 2008 02:54 GMT
> I've not kept up with the intricacies of "Rosetta".  As a practical
> matter, does the above mean that this newer version of the AHED
> dictionary will in fact "just run" in 10.5 on an Intel machine, with
> some invisible emulator invoked internally?

Correct.  In the overwhelming majority of cases, you won't know that
Rosetta is there.

-j

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Lewis - 10 Mar 2008 07:14 GMT
> I've not kept up with the intricacies of "Rosetta".  As a practical
> matter, does the above mean that this newer version of the AHED
> dictionary will in fact "just run" in 10.5 on an Intel machine, with
> some invisible emulator invoked internally?

Yes.

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Lewis - 08 Mar 2008 05:48 GMT
> And there's the built-in Apple/OS X Dictionary app, which is not at all
> "insanely great" -- meaning its interface is nowhere near as nice as was
> IHED, but it's not too bad.

The interface is not that great, but the dictionary itself is top-notch,
and I love the inclusion of wikipedia.

>  If you stick it in the Dock, you can open
> it quickly for quick lookups;  I think there are some other interface
> tricks for getting at it.

rclick => Look Up in Dictionary is good.

Also, Alex does a decent job of pronouncing most words, just set a key
sequence to 'speak selected text' and it works very nicely (I use ^-O-C
's' for by shortcut.

I also use Alex a lot to read things (I have his speed one notch below
max) before I send them, as it's a great way to find typos that are not
misspellings.

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Huan - 10 Mar 2008 00:40 GMT
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> Also, Alex does a decent job of pronouncing most words, just set a key
> sequence to 'speak selected text' and it works very nicely (I use ^-O-C
> 's' for by shortcut.

> I also use Alex a lot to read things (I have his speed one notch below
> max) before I send them, as it's a great way to find typos that are not
> misspellings.

Speaking of Alex, he has a nice voice alright, but he takes up a LOT of
disk space.  There's no reason I can't delete him, right?

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Lewis - 10 Mar 2008 07:13 GMT
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> Speaking of Alex, he has a nice voice alright, but he takes up a LOT of
> disk space.  There's no reason I can't delete him, right?

Well, for certain values of 'a lot' He take up about 650MB, IIRC. So
that's 0.02% of my hard drive space and less than 1% of a $100 500GB
drive.

Put another way, Alex fits on a single recordable CD, with a tad of room
left over. Backing up just my boot drive would take well over 400 CDs.

I would never recommend deleting or modifying in anyway anything inside
/System.

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Shawn Hirn - 08 Mar 2008 10:27 GMT
> > With Leopard, I can no longer run lagacy applications with OS9. Among
> > those apps I miss is the American Heritage Pronouncing Dictionary. t had
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> it quickly for quick lookups;  I think there are some other interface
> tricks for getting at it.

One thing I like about Apple's dictionary is that in many applications,
you don't even need to open the dictionary app to look up words, you
just control-click on the word and look up the definition from a
contextual pop-up menu, and the Dictionary app will open at that point
and display the meaning of the word for you if the word exists in the
dictionary.
gtr - 08 Mar 2008 16:47 GMT
> One thing I like about Apple's dictionary is that in many applications,
> you don't even need to open the dictionary app to look up words, you
> just control-click on the word and look up the definition from a
> contextual pop-up menu, and the Dictionary app will open at that point
> and display the meaning of the word for you if the word exists in the
> dictionary.

I was a big fan of AHED, but I must say that I've used Dictionary since
it became available, and after a short acclimation, I think it's great.
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John Rethorst - 08 Mar 2008 22:22 GMT
> > One thing I like about Apple's dictionary is that in many applications,
> > you don't even need to open the dictionary app to look up words, you
> > just control-click on the word and look up the definition from a
> > contextual pop-up menu, and the Dictionary app will open at that point
> > and display the meaning of the word for you if the word exists in the
> > dictionary.

In many applications you can just mouse over a word and press the keystroke
you've defined in the Keyboard prefpane. A small window pops up with the
definition, and a button to go to the main dictionary window.

> I was a big fan of AHED, but I must say that I've used Dictionary since
> it became available, and after a short acclimation, I think it's great.

I like AHED too, and still use it on occasion in classic, but only when I want a
second opinion, since Dictionary is IMO well done.

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Ockham's Razor - 07 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT
> With Leopard, I can no longer run lagacy applications with OS9. Among
> those apps I miss is the American Heritage Pronouncing Dictionary. t had
> the capability of finding words from definitions and provided anagrams
> as well.

Strong second to that.  Just one more reason to not move to 10.5x.

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John Rethorst - 08 Mar 2008 01:44 GMT
> With Leopard, I can no longer run lagacy applications with OS9. Among
> those apps I miss is the American Heritage Pronouncing Dictionary. t had
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What is available now to meet my needs?

You can run any legacy app with Leopard or on an Intel machine, using an
emulator called SheepShaver. Fast, stable and free. See
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wordperfectmac for a download.

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Lewis - 08 Mar 2008 05:42 GMT
> What is available now to meet my needs?

www.m-w.com

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