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gtr - 28 Feb 2008 16:09 GMT
A few days ago i heard the fan on my iMac G5 go into overdrive.  I hold
the power key down until it shuts down. And Reboot it  this happens
every 3 months or so.  Big deal.

After I'm up and running for a while I do a spotlight search and see
that the system is re-indexing both my internal and external dries.
fine.

I've noted in the past few days, though, that spotlight searches are
not finding anything which I KNOW is on the external drive.  What's up
with this?  My spotlight preferences indicate no limitations on that
drive

Finally:  How do I initiate spotlight cataloging on that drive so that
all is well again?
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Jolly Roger - 28 Feb 2008 17:45 GMT
> A few days ago i heard the fan on my iMac G5 go into overdrive.  I hold
> the power key down until it shuts down. And Reboot it  this happens
> every 3 months or so.  Big deal.

Did you check to see if it was frozen first? If the computer was
responsive with the fans running, then there's no need to do a hard
shutdown like that. I advise you to hold the power key to shut down
(hard shutdown) only as a last resort, because it can cause file
corruption.

> After I'm up and running for a while I do a spotlight search and see
> that the system is re-indexing both my internal and external dries.
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> with this?  My spotlight preferences indicate no limitations on that
> drive

It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
settings files to be in a bad state.

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gtr - 28 Feb 2008 18:22 GMT
>> A few days ago i heard the fan on my iMac G5 go into overdrive.  I hold
>> the power key down until it shuts down. And Reboot it  this happens
>> every 3 months or so.  Big deal.
>
> Did you check to see if it was frozen first?

Yeah, everytime this has happened (to my knowledge) it was accompanied
by a freeze.

>  If the computer was
> responsive with the fans running, then there's no need to do a hard
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> It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
> settings files to be in a bad state.

Do you know how to initiate a new indexing?
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Jolly Roger - 28 Feb 2008 18:41 GMT
> > It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
> > settings files to be in a bad state.
>
> Do you know how to initiate a new indexing?

I haven't ever done it myself, but you might give this a shot:

<http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050424201429961>

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gtr - 28 Feb 2008 21:41 GMT
>>> It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
>>> settings files to be in a bad state.
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>
> <http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050424201429961>

Excellent, I'll give it a shot. Many thanks!
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gtr - 29 Feb 2008 02:50 GMT
>>> It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
>>> settings files to be in a bad state.
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>
> <http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050424201429961>

Worked like a charm:

Deleted the invisible folder on the external drive named
".Spotlight-V100", incidentally, unlike my internal drive, there was
nothing in this folder. I then attempted to umount, it didn't want to,
as apparently there was an application engaged with it.  I saw none.  I
logged out and in again.  Same thing: it thought it was involved with a
process.

I rebooted and could then unmount and remount the drive.  Immediately
upon remount it was re-indexing.  Cool.

Thanks for the pointer.
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Jolly Roger - 29 Feb 2008 14:18 GMT
> >>> It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
> >>> settings files to be in a bad state.
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>
> Worked like a charm

Great - thanks for reporting back.  : )

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Fred Moore - 29 Feb 2008 16:21 GMT
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<jollyroger-4447DA.12414528022008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> > > It's possible those hard shut downs you are doing are causing Spotlight
> > > settings files to be in a bad state.
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>
> <http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050424201429961>

This tip is very easy, but it does require unmounting/remounting the
disk. If you don't want to do that, say you want to reindex your boot
drive without restarting, try this easy terminal trick:

sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/<hard drive>

It also deletes the index folder. Since the system can't abide an
unindexed volume, unless that volume is explicitly excluded from
indexing, the system will immediately start re-indexing the volume.

--Fred

'And it's just that easy.'  --Red Green
Jolly Roger - 29 Feb 2008 18:19 GMT
> In article
> <jollyroger-4447DA.12414528022008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> unindexed volume, unless that volume is explicitly excluded from
> indexing, the system will immediately start re-indexing the volume.

Yep.  BTW, mdutil is mentioned in a comments on that tip web page.

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