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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / February 2008Any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program?
Dear friends: Do you have any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program? The purpose of these programs is to cut the code of the architecture you don't use (PPC on Intel machines and vice versa) on all the installed applications, and to cut some language localizations of OSX that, most probably, you will never use too. A savings up to 47% in disk space for some applications is announced (Google Earth, among them). So, they seem attractive. Have you used or tested this kind of programs? Is there a risk that your Mac would be more unstable after using them? Thanks Juan I. Cahis Santiago de Chile (South America) Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it! > Do you have any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Have you used or tested this kind of programs? Is there a risk that > your Mac would be more unstable after using them? I have never found myself running out of disk space on my startup drives, so I find utilities like this useless.  SignatureNote: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. If you must contact me through e-mail, let me know when you send email to this address so that your email doesn't get eaten by my SPAM filter. JR > Do you have any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program? Yeah, sure. Don't. > Have you used or tested this kind of programs? Yep. > Is there a risk that your Mac would be more unstable after using them? Sure, any time you muck about in the system space there is a chance for destruction. That said, i have tried out, I think it was monolingual, on a laptop and it seemed to go ok. It saved about 2GB of space total, which si something, though not, imo, significant enough to bother with. It also took quite a long time. If you're on a laptop and you're really crammed for space, and you have backups... well, it might be worth risking. SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. >> Do you have any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >If you're on a laptop and you're really crammed for space, and you have >backups... well, it might be worth risking. Yes, I am on a laptop and also with BootCamp Thanks Juan I. Cahis Santiago de Chile (South America) Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it! > > Do you have any opinion on Xslimmer or any similar program? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > If you're on a laptop and you're really crammed for space, and you have > backups... well, it might be worth risking. The Xslimmer application goes a little beyond monolingual; it can remove the executable for other architectures, which could produce substantial savings in disk space. Still not worth the (potential) trouble IMO. SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > The Xslimmer application goes a little beyond monolingual; it can remove > the executable for other architectures, which could produce substantial > savings in disk space. Still not worth the (potential) trouble IMO. monolingual does that also. SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. > > The Xslimmer application goes a little beyond monolingual; it can remove > > the executable for other architectures, which could produce substantial > > savings in disk space. Still not worth the (potential) trouble IMO. > > monolingual does that also. I didn't realize that; it's been a while since I looked at monolingual. Thanks for the correction. SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > Dear friends: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Have you used or tested this kind of programs? Is there a risk that > your Mac would be more unstable after using them? I've written on of them. For the general desktop user, there's not a HUGE incentive to run these. They're of more interest for laptop users, for whom adding storage is often (comparatively) expensive or inconvenient. And there are some desktop users who are offended by the knowledge that there's space on their drive being consumed by code they are sure they will never use. Whichever category you fall into, there's no reason that these programs should have any impact on the stability of your system or any individual piece of software. There *are* a handful of programs that notice they've been trimmed down and intentionally refuse to run. The intent is to avoid exposing the user to the risk of a compromised app, but the check they do is so broad that it is tripped by changes in things that were never guaranteed to remain constant in the first place. Hopefully the fact that this behavior has caused issues with the 10.5 firewall will get at least some of those developers to rethink their techniques. >> Dear friends: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >fact that this behavior has caused issues with the 10.5 firewall will >get at least some of those developers to rethink their techniques. Thanks a lot for your info, Gregory!!!!! Thanks Juan I. Cahis Santiago de Chile (South America) Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it! >> Dear friends: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >fact that this behavior has caused issues with the 10.5 firewall will >get at least some of those developers to rethink their techniques. I downloaded Xslimmer to evaluate it, and I did a "diagnostic" with it, without deleting anything. It suggested a savings of 2.2 GB of disk space, for applications only. Curiously, the most savings would be on Apple applications, like iTunes, iDVD, etc., (I would say "i*"), and all the components of iLife08. The savings on each one application ranged from 50 MB to 150 MB. I don't have any estimation of the savings regarding the not used international languages. Does somebody know an estimate saving for each one deleted? Thanks Juan I. Cahis Santiago de Chile (South America) Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it! > I don't have any estimation of the savings regarding the not used > international languages. Does somebody know an estimate saving for > each one deleted? /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources $ du -csh *lproj 5.5M Dutch.lproj 4.1M English.lproj 5.7M French.lproj 5.8M German.lproj 5.5M Italian.lproj 5.1M Japanese.lproj 5.6M Spanish.lproj 5.2M da.lproj 5.4M fi.lproj 5.2M ko.lproj 5.3M no.lproj 5.4M pl.lproj 5.5M pt_PT.lproj 4.8M ru.lproj 5.4M sv.lproj 5.0M zh_CN.lproj 4.6M zh_TW.lproj 89M total /Applications/iWeb.app/Contents/Resources $ du -csh *lproj 7.1M Dutch.lproj 7.2M English.lproj 7.9M French.lproj 8.2M German.lproj 7.9M Italian.lproj 7.2M Japanese.lproj 8.2M Spanish.lproj 7.0M da.lproj 8.2M fi.lproj 7.1M ko.lproj 7.0M no.lproj 3.5M pl.lproj 5.5M pt_PT.lproj 8.9M ru.lproj 7.1M sv.lproj 7.1M zh_CN.lproj 7.3M zh_TW.lproj 123M total SignatureBart: This is the worst day of my life. Homer: This is the worst day of your life SO FAR. >> I don't have any estimation of the savings regarding the not used >> international languages. Does somebody know an estimate saving for [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >7.3M zh_TW.lproj >123M total Thanks a lot!!!!!! Thanks Juan I. Cahis Santiago de Chile (South America) Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it! > Curiously, the most savings would be on Apple applications, like > iTunes, iDVD, etc., (I would say "i*"), and all the components of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > international languages. Does somebody know an estimate saving for > each one deleted? Lewis showed you some example results and although he didn't call special attention to it he also gave you the command for finding that information out for more apps. Localization files are almost certain to be the big savings in any commercial OS X app. A single localization folder could quite easily eclipse the impact of having support for two architectures in the executable file tucked away inside the application package. Apple, as you've seen, includes a very large number of localizations. They have a greater combination of resources and incentive to do so than just about any other vendor. |
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