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Colin Grant - 26 Jan 2008 19:32 GMT I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt broadband) - Gmail if I need imap BTYahoo if I do not. - Flickr (I get a free pro account via BT) or Picasa - Google Apps
Am I missing anything or does the above give me all that mac gives me? Backup was the one thing but I have Tlme Machine now. Perhaps it is just the tie in with the iLife apps that will be hard to replace.
I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views.
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Michael Vilain - 26 Jan 2008 19:55 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. Well, since you've done the research to look for alternatives you obviously aren't satisfied with Apple's insulate-the-consumer model of support. I think of .Mac and AOL as the "Internet with training wheels", but that's just me. The .Mac services are integrated into all the iLife applications which you've been finding alternatives for on your own. If it's easier for you to "roll your own" rather than use Apple's, great. Especially if $99/year is to expensive for you. I pay $30/month web hosting, $30/year for spam filtering, $50/month for broadband. But they're all business deductions.
If you have a web site and domain on .Mac, you may want to price out alternatives. It probably won't be free unless you want ads on your site. Also, certain .Mac web features may go way like contact forms and page hit counters.
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Lloyd Parsons - 26 Jan 2008 20:44 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. I just find the syncing and ease of use so handy that I consider .mac to be one of the better solutions. And since I don't need the space some other hosts offer, it is really no more expensive than others would be.
I like the one-stop nature of it.
But to each his own.
Tim Lance - 26 Jan 2008 23:16 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. I'm not as geeky as some but far geekier than many. I find the cost/ease/feature ratios too good to pass up.
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Davoud - 27 Jan 2008 00:04 GMT Tim Lance:
> I'm not as geeky as some but far geekier than many. I find the > cost/ease/feature ratios too good to pass up. Same here. And it's not $99 as others have said, but $70 at Amazon.com.
Davoud
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Tim Lance - 27 Jan 2008 00:50 GMT > Tim Lance: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Davoud Yep. Is what I do.
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Megadave - 27 Jan 2008 02:19 GMT > Tim Lance: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Davoud Thanks for that tip! :-)
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TaliesinSoft - 27 Jan 2008 02:26 GMT > Tim Lance: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Davoud And I was able to get mine at a CompUSA (going out of business store) for $50.
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Colin Grant - 27 Jan 2008 09:30 GMT >> Same here. And it's not $99 as others have said, but $70 at Amazon.com. Amazon? is it available in the UK and how do I find it? Tks
TaliesinSoft - 27 Jan 2008 16:32 GMT >>> Same here. And it's not $99 as others have said, but $70 at Amazon.com. > > Amazon? is it available in the UK and how do I find it? Tks It seems that Amazon's "amazing price" in the U.K. saves you a whole pound! Take a look at
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_?url=search-alias%3Daps&field- keywords=dot+mac&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go>
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gtr - 27 Jan 2008 17:47 GMT > Tim Lance: > >> I'm not as geeky as some but far geekier than many. I find the >> cost/ease/feature ratios too good to pass up. > > Same here. And it's not $99 as others have said, but $70 at Amazon.com. And here as well. I make liberal use of the iLife programs particularly iWeb and Ilike the convenience of one-touch posting of my calendar online.
When I'm doing international travel it's been a real convenience using the front end of dotmac for mail and having all the jillions of bookmarks I use available on any browser.
On a few occasions I needed to have an list-serv type group initiated, for a book group and such. Setting up was a snap, and so was taking it down when the time came.
Though I have not yet investigated it, there are apparently options for allowing access to your full and complete computer while you're on the road, via any browser on any platform. This demands dotmac. I can't recall what the program is named, as I'm rarely away from the house! It demands Leopard.
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gtr - 27 Jan 2008 17:55 GMT >> Tim Lance: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > recall what the program is named, as I'm rarely away from the house! > It demands Leopard. Oops. Forgot to mention the program FileChute (yellowmug.com). I know it's not a big program or anything, but it as been INVALUABLE to me in swapping large files when I need to do it, without having to bungle some web-based and/or subscription service to be able to do it conveniently.
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Howard Brazee - 27 Jan 2008 18:43 GMT I hope to learn to use .mac better. A year ago we got it for my wife's computer to back-up documents. I just got mine and the people in the Apple Store said we didn't need the family version if I didn't back up that much. But every time I run backup from my computer I get an abort.
A couple of times I've tried to put photos out on it to be shared by my family. One time I did it in such a way that it said users need Macs to use it.
Twice I created web pages in Latin? But when I went to my Mom's computer and clicked on the link I sent her I got the web page without any photos visible on it.
I guess I need to take one-on-one class, carrying a 24" iMac in. But the photos are on her computer, not mine - maybe I need to lug both computers in.
I might wait until I get the new router/disk drive though.
Jeffrey Goldberg - 28 Jan 2008 19:26 GMT > On a few occasions I needed to have an list-serv type group initiated, for a > book group and such. Setting up was a snap, and so was taking it down when > the time came. You can do that with .Mac? The principle reason I run a mailserver in the corner of my office is for running mailman. But if the .Mac mail list system is about the same quality as things like google groups or yahoo groups then forget it.
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gtr - 28 Jan 2008 22:01 GMT >> On a few occasions I needed to have an list-serv type group initiated, >> for a book group and such. Setting up was a snap, and so was taking it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > list system is about the same quality as things like google groups or > yahoo groups then forget it. Tough to simply tell you. I don't do much with it, I operate a list for a monthly film group, and another for a group of mac-heads in Orange County. Doesn't take any labor at all from me. They can all access it on it's own little web-page blog if they like, or simply read the stuff via email and respond that-a-way. They ALL do the later.
The way they have the thing set-up though, you have a little web-page related to the whole process, so you can have the lista-activity appear there as a quazi-blog as well as announcements that aren't part of the list, file storage (for reference pdf's group-related links, whatever). I think it's pretty hip, but then they are small groups and everybody is interacting solely via email.
There's probably something more illustrative in the mac docu pages, I'd figure
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Jeffrey Goldberg - 28 Jan 2008 19:30 GMT > Though I have not yet investigated it, there are apparently options for > allowing access to your full and complete computer while you're on the road, > via any browser on any platform. This demands dotmac. I can't recall what > the program is named, as I'm rarely away from the house! It demands Leopard. Back to my Mac. I haven't played with it. And frankly, I don't want to run an externally visible server from my LAN.
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David Fritzinger - 26 Jan 2008 23:34 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. I keep renewing my .Mac subscription for a couple of reasons. First, I generally like Apple Mail, and it has worked well for me. However, the main reason I use it is syncing the address books, calendars, bookmarks, etc. on my 3 Macs. That is something that is invaluable for me. I also find the off-site storage for backups to be useful, but syncing is the big one for me.
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Countryman - 27 Jan 2008 00:38 GMT > I keep renewing my .Mac subscription for a couple of reasons. First, I > generally like Apple Mail, and it has worked well for me. However, the > main reason I use it is syncing the address books, calendars, bookmarks, > etc. on my 3 Macs. That is something that is invaluable for me. I also > find the off-site storage for backups to be useful, but syncing is the > big one for methat I understand, although as far as Apple Mail is concerned, that nice app can be used with any email provider I believe.
Jeffrey Goldberg - 27 Jan 2008 18:35 GMT In <dfritzin-973B2D.13341726012008@news-server.hawaii.rr.com>, David...:
> I keep renewing my .Mac subscription for a couple of reasons. First, I > generally like Apple Mail, and it has worked well for me. However, the > main reason I use it is syncing the address books, calendars, bookmarks, > etc. on my 3 Macs. That is something that is invaluable for me. I also > find the off-site storage for backups to be useful, but syncing is the > big one for me. Me, too. It's the syncing that I like, particularly with syncing keychains now my passwords (via 1password) are stored in a keychain.
I also have a family account, which allows my daughter to use .mac for web hosting.
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Juan I. Cahis - 27 Jan 2008 00:39 GMT >I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty >expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. How do you qualify Apple's quality of service (communication speed, number of attempts necessary to download a big file, etc.) compared to your alternatives?
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Colin Grant - 27 Jan 2008 09:34 GMT > How do you qualify Apple's quality of service (communication speed, > number of attempts necessary to download a big file, etc.) compared to > your alternatives? It its quick enough for me then it is quick enough"-) That said I have found mac mail slow at times, this may be as I'm in the UK. Apple's Mail App does not seem as good as Entourage when running something like Gmail imap but I do like Mail App.
Eric Lindsay - 27 Jan 2008 22:54 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I know this is a personal thing but I would appreciate any views. I got sold Dot Mac when I bought my first Mac four years ago. Was thinking of dropping it at the end of the first year, but kept it one more year, basically because I was too lazy to move a few backups from it.
For the past few years, I really have not seen any merit in retaining Dot Mac for anything. Nothing spectacularly wrong with it (although iDisk was way to slow to be any real use), but it just didn't seem to provide good value. There seem to be free or cheap alternatives to almost everything it provided.
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Lloyd Parsons - 27 Jan 2008 23:08 GMT In article <NOwebmasterSPAM-8A9AB2.08543628012008@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > provide good value. There seem to be free or cheap alternatives to > almost everything it provided. You are right, there are free or cheap alternatives. But none of them offer it all in one spot, geared specifically for OSX users so well. As others mentioned, the syncing alone is very valuable, add in email and all the other little things that make up .mac, and it is hard to beat at any price, especially if you don't like to fiddle...
gtr - 28 Jan 2008 02:40 GMT Another thought: One of the earlly reasons I got dotmac was that in less than about 5 years I had to move from primenet to adelphia to timewarner as they all hollowed themselves out, "failed" (on paper) and then were absorbed.
Though only my address changes as I'm shuttled by timewarner to roadrunner it's still a big pain in the a.s to tell my friends my new annual address. Using a name@mac.com consistently through the various tortured changes of "corporate bankruptcy" and my own geographical shifts--it's been a comfort over the past few years.
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Countryman - 28 Jan 2008 08:38 GMT > Using a name@mac.com consistently through the various > tortured changes of "corporate bankruptcy" and my own geographical > shifts--it's been a comfort over the past few years. Yes = but you can do the same by buying your own domain name.
Lloyd Parsons - 28 Jan 2008 14:42 GMT > > Using a name@mac.com consistently through the various > > tortured changes of "corporate bankruptcy" and my own geographical > > shifts--it's been a comfort over the past few years. > > Yes = but you can do the same by buying your own domain name. Uh, you mean renting it, don't you?
Countryman - 28 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT > Uh, you mean renting it, don't you? I guess I do mean rent, but there are some cheap domains here in the UK :-)
Howard Brazee - 28 Jan 2008 21:51 GMT >> Uh, you mean renting it, don't you? > >I guess I do mean rent, but there are some cheap domains here in the UK :-) Of course, one could argue that *everything* is rented. But sometimes the difference is attitude - I plan on keeping my domain longer than I plan on keeping the condo that pretend I own.
Countryman - 28 Jan 2008 22:57 GMT > Of course, one could argue that *everything* is rented. But > sometimes the difference is attitude - I plan on keeping my domain > longer than I plan on keeping the condo that pretend I own. Margaret Thatcher said we don't own we have a life tenancy.
gtr - 28 Jan 2008 16:38 GMT >> Using a name@mac.com consistently through the various >> tortured changes of "corporate bankruptcy" and my own geographical >> shifts--it's been a comfort over the past few years. > > Yes = but you can do the same by buying your own domain name. Quite true. Or start my own ISP.
As has been pointed out upstream, for every individual task or benefit that dotmac provides there is a separate service, some with and some without additional fees, that can replace them.
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Jeffrey Goldberg - 28 Jan 2008 19:47 GMT > Though only my address changes as I'm shuttled by timewarner to roadrunner > it's still a big pain in the a.s to tell my friends my new annual address. > Using a name@mac.com consistently through the various tortured changes of > "corporate bankruptcy" and my own geographical shifts--it's been a comfort > over the past few years. Get your own domain name. Most registrars (I like Register4Less) will have an email forwarding service that comes with the registration. 15 USD per year ought to cover everything.
I got goldmark.org (I'm GOLDberg, my wife is MARKoczy and all forms of "goldberg" where gone at the time) in 2000 in anticipation of a move from England to California. In California, I changed ISPs many times (often because the ISPs changed under my feet). Likewise, after moving from California to Texas in 2005, I've been through a few.
Once I moved my mail hosting to whatever webhosting company I was using at the time to fastmail.fm (2001?) every move or shift of provider hasn't caused the slightest inconvenience with my email.
For a while I ran my own SMTP and IMAP server on a "virtual private server" and do things exactly the way I want them done. But I was just too tempted to tinker with my own stuff without being as cautious as I would be with other people's stuff. So I kept on breaking my server in various ways. Now I have my really important stuff (my email) run by professionals whose business depends on not messing things up. And I run a largely "toy" mailserver out of my house.
Cheers,
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gtr - 28 Jan 2008 21:57 GMT >> Though only my address changes as I'm shuttled by timewarner to >> roadrunner it's still a big pain in the a.s to tell my friends my new [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > have an email forwarding service that comes with the registration. 15 > USD per year ought to cover everything. You guys most have confused things. I don't have a problem. This has been solved, as a number of other needs/problems related to back-up, syncing, Web hosting, large-file relay, small list-serv operations and so forth: I subscribed to dotmac.
> I got goldmark.org (I'm GOLDberg, my wife is MARKoczy and all forms of > "goldberg" where gone at the time) in 2000 in anticipation of a move [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -j
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Howard Brazee - 29 Jan 2008 22:42 GMT Here's the abort I get when I try to Backup to our .Mac account:
Process: Backup [85888] Path: /Applications/Backup.app/Contents/MacOS/Backup Identifier: com.apple.Backup Version: 3.1.2 (374) Build Info: BackupProject-3740000~3 Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [641]
Date/Time: 2008-01-29 15:41:38.089 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.1 (9B18) Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_ARITHMETIC (SIGFPE) Exception Codes: EXC_I386_DIV (divide by zero) Crashed Thread: 8
Thread 0: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab18e6 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab90dc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f10fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f1d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x96a118a4 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283 5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x96a116bd ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374 6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x96a11531 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106 7 com.apple.AppKit 0x92eb7d5b _DPSNextEvent + 657 8 com.apple.AppKit 0x92eb76a0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128 9 com.apple.AppKit 0x92eb06d1 -[NSApplication run] + 795 10 com.apple.AppKit 0x92e7d9ba NSApplicationMain + 574 11 com.apple.Backup 0x000058ce 0x1000 + 18638 12 com.apple.Backup 0x00002e9e 0x1000 + 7838 13 com.apple.Backup 0x00002db9 0x1000 + 7609
Thread 1: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab18e6 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab90dc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f10fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f1d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90070560 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 320 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 6 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 2: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94b00f5a select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 3: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab18e6 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab90dc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f10fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f1d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x946957ba CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 396 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 4: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab8ace __semwait_signal + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2ced pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73 2 com.apple.QuartzCore 0x93a20161 fe_fragment_thread + 54 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 5: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab18e6 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab90dc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f10fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x951f1d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9010c1a8 -[NSConnection run] + 280 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 6 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 6: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052d15 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69 6 com.apple.Backup 0x0005c2fa 0x1000 + 373498 7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 7: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab18e6 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab90dc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x92759b56 _CGSSynchronizeWindowBackingStore + 139 3 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x9274cb6c _CGSLockWindow + 4600 4 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x92759683 CGSDeviceLock + 450 5 libRIP.A.dylib 0x96e6ade1 ripd_Lock + 61 6 libRIP.A.dylib 0x96e648ff ripl_BltImage + 321 7 libRIP.A.dylib 0x96e4ec25 ripc_RenderImage + 273 8 libRIP.A.dylib 0x96e58768 ripc_EndLayer + 934 9 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x927caa20 CGContextEndTransparencyLayer + 96 10 com.apple.AppKit 0x9303f667 _NSTileImageWithOperation + 2633 11 com.apple.AppKit 0x9303fd51 _NSTileImage + 98 12 com.apple.AppKit 0x9303fbfd -[NSProgressIndicator _drawThemeProgressArea:] + 1058 13 com.apple.AppKit 0x92f1eb0c -[NSProgressIndicator heartBeat:] + 2326 14 com.apple.AppKit 0x92f1df65 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1590 15 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 16 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 17 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 18 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 8 Crashed: 0 com.apple.Backup 0x0013b540 0x1000 + 1287488 1 com.apple.Backup 0x000a326b 0x1000 + 664171 2 com.apple.Backup 0x000a3012 0x1000 + 663570 3 com.apple.Backup 0x0004ea44 0x1000 + 318020 4 com.apple.Backup 0x000bd53d 0x1000 + 771389 5 com.apple.Backup 0x000bd79a 0x1000 + 771994 6 com.apple.Backup 0x0004d94b 0x1000 + 313675 7 com.apple.Backup 0x00045a96 0x1000 + 281238 8 com.apple.Backup 0x00044c6c 0x1000 + 277612 9 com.apple.Backup 0x0005b4b2 0x1000 + 369842 10 com.apple.Backup 0x0005b0cb 0x1000 + 368843 11 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 12 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 13 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 14 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 9: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052d15 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69 6 com.apple.Backup 0x0005a4e1 0x1000 + 365793 7 com.apple.Backup 0x0005b472 0x1000 + 369778 8 com.apple.Backup 0x0005b0cb 0x1000 + 368843 9 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 10 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 11 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 12 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 10: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040e8cf +[DotMacKitAYOperation _lockWaitingForOperation] + 138 6 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040ee8f +[DotMacKitAYOperation _workerThread] + 190 7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 11: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040e8cf +[DotMacKitAYOperation _lockWaitingForOperation] + 138 6 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040ee8f +[DotMacKitAYOperation _workerThread] + 190 7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 12: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040e8cf +[DotMacKitAYOperation _lockWaitingForOperation] + 138 6 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040ee8f +[DotMacKitAYOperation _workerThread] + 190 7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 13: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab1946 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae31cf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae4a53 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052f9c -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x90052db0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144 5 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040e8cf +[DotMacKitAYOperation _lockWaitingForOperation] + 138 6 com.apple.DotMacKit 0x0040ee8f +[DotMacKitAYOperation _workerThread] + 190 7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 14: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ab8ace __semwait_signal + 10 1 com.apple.Foundation 0x900a9631 +[NSThread sleepUntilDate:] + 97 2 com.apple.Backup 0x000a1627 0x1000 + 656935 3 com.apple.Backup 0x000c407d 0x1000 + 798845 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000d04d -[NSThread main] + 45 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9000cbf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae2075 _pthread_start + 321 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94ae1f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x00000001 ebx: 0x00000200 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000 edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb0567998 esp: 0xb0567968 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x0013b540 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x00871240
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Lewis - 27 Jan 2008 23:58 GMT > I am thinking of letting my mac account lapse this year. It is pretty > expensive and I have alternatives available:- Digital Vault (I use bt > broadband) > - Gmail if I need imap BTYahoo if I do not. > - Flickr (I get a free pro account via BT) or Picasa > - Google Apps I like the iPhoto integration and hte slideshows on .Mac. I also like the sync service between my multiple machines. Worth the $8/month for that.
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