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Robert Peirce - 15 Dec 2007 19:05 GMT
Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
can't figure out how to get it back.

What key is doing this?  It isn't delete.
What key or key combination will get it back?  ^V doesn't work.
Is there some way to turn off this "feature?"

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Mike Rosenberg - 15 Dec 2007 19:17 GMT
> Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> What key or key combination will get it back?  ^V doesn't work.
> Is there some way to turn off this "feature?"

Did you mean Command-V, for the Paste command?  That would only work if
you deleted using Cut (Command-X) first.  What should work for you is
Command-Z, Undo.  In fact, that's what may have caused your deletion in
the first place, since it will undo whatever the last thing you did in a
specific app.  Now, normally I'd say it's difficult to accidentally
press the same two-key combination on a regular basic, but the two keys
_are_ adjacent, and some keyboards are pretty sensitive, so who knows?

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Robert Peirce - 15 Dec 2007 19:33 GMT
> > Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> > unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> press the same two-key combination on a regular basic, but the two keys
> _are_ adjacent, and some keyboards are pretty sensitive, so who knows?

Thanks a bunch.  Even if ^Z (I use '^' for command, although it usually
means control, at least in Unix) isn't causing the problem, it could be
the way to correct it.  I'll give that a try the next time it happens.

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Robert Peirce - 15 Dec 2007 19:43 GMT
> > > Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> > > unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> means control, at least in Unix) isn't causing the problem, it could be
> the way to correct it.  I'll give that a try the next time it happens.

Okay, ^Z will definitely delete something I just wrote, but applying ^Z
again will not restore it.  Apparently you cannot undo an undo, at least
not directly.  Also, the best I can remember, I am always doing
something with my right hand when this happens, but I don't know what
and I have never been able to force it to happen in order to find out.

Undo definitely does what I am experiencing, so some key combination is
duplicating that.  Now, is there a way to undo an undo?

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Robert Peirce - 15 Dec 2007 19:51 GMT
> Okay, ^Z will definitely delete something I just wrote, but applying ^Z
> again will not restore it.  Apparently you cannot undo an undo, at least
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> Undo definitely does what I am experiencing, so some key combination is
> duplicating that.  Now, is there a way to undo an undo?

There is a menu item called "Redo Typing" that appears after an undo
that restores the stuff you just undid.  Now, I just have to wait for
this to happen to me again to see if this is the cure.

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Mike Rosenberg - 15 Dec 2007 20:05 GMT
> > Undo definitely does what I am experiencing, so some key combination is
> > duplicating that.  Now, is there a way to undo an undo?
>
> There is a menu item called "Redo Typing" that appears after an undo
> that restores the stuff you just undid.  Now, I just have to wait for
> this to happen to me again to see if this is the cure.

You beat me to it.  Yes, Redo (Shift-Command-Z) will undo an undo in
Mail.

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P. Sture - 17 Dec 2007 07:05 GMT
> > Okay, ^Z will definitely delete something I just wrote, but applying ^Z
> > again will not restore it.  Apparently you cannot undo an undo, at least
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> that restores the stuff you just undid.  Now, I just have to wait for
> this to happen to me again to see if this is the cure.

I prefer to use the menu in these cases to that I can see whether "Redo"
or "Undo" is highlighted, and take it from there.

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Shawn Hirn - 17 Dec 2007 11:18 GMT
> > > > Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> > > > unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> Undo definitely does what I am experiencing, so some key combination is
> duplicating that.  Now, is there a way to undo an undo?

Are you referring to control-z or command-z? Control-z is written as ^z
and command-z is usually just spelled out because people don't want to
go to the trouble of finding a typeable clover leaf symbol. Command-z
and ^z have different behaviors. Command-z will always undo the previous
change in Mail.app (and most other apps). I don't know what ^z does.
Shawn Hirn - 16 Dec 2007 11:29 GMT
> Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What key or key combination will get it back?  ^V doesn't work.
> Is there some way to turn off this "feature?"

Command-Z does an undo of the previous change. You might; however, be
better off writing long emails in a word processor and frequently saving
your document. That way, if you do need to recover text, its as easy as
simply quitting out of the document without saving it, then opening it
again.
Mike Rosenberg - 16 Dec 2007 13:23 GMT
> Command-Z does an undo of the previous change. You might; however, be
> better off writing long emails in a word processor and frequently saving
> your document. That way, if you do need to recover text, its as easy as
> simply quitting out of the document without saving it, then opening it
> again.

You can frequently save a message in Mail as you're typing.

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Dave Balderstone - 16 Dec 2007 16:01 GMT
> > Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> > unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> simply quitting out of the document without saving it, then opening it
> again.

Command-S works fine in Mail. There's no need to use a word processor...

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Beth C - 17 Dec 2007 01:08 GMT
On Dec 15, 2:05 pm, Robert Peirce <b...@peirce-family.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Every once in a while I will be writing an e-mail and will hit some
> unknown key that deletes a large part of what I have just written, and I
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> bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac]
> rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office]

Or Filess>Undo.
 
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