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Removing iWork and Office

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Heli - 12 Dec 2007 09:53 GMT
My new iMac came with preinstalled iWork and Office. I won't start them
up. Can I just trash the folders? I don't have to uninstall something?
Bill - 12 Dec 2007 13:22 GMT
> My new iMac came with preinstalled iWork and Office. I won't start them
> up. Can I just trash the folders? I don't have to uninstall something?

Why bother? They take up some modest amount of disk space but otherwise
have no effect on your system.

Both are trial versions. You can try them, see if you like them.

If you really want to get rid of them just drag them to the trash and
empty the trash.

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Heli - 12 Dec 2007 14:55 GMT
In article
<bbcollins-767F40.08225912122007@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Bill
<bbcollins@fake.net> wrote:

> > My new iMac came with preinstalled iWork and Office. I won't start them
> > up. Can I just trash the folders? I don't have to uninstall something?
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> If you really want to get rid of them just drag them to the trash and
> empty the trash.

Thanks. I think I'll try to import my Appleworks.
Lloyd Parsons - 12 Dec 2007 17:02 GMT
> In article
> <bbcollins-767F40.08225912122007@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Bill
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>
> Thanks. I think I'll try to import my Appleworks.

I just did that on my G5.  Just copied the Appleworks folder from
'Applications' and was good to go.  No harm, no foul.
Heli - 12 Dec 2007 17:18 GMT
> > In article
> > <bbcollins-767F40.08225912122007@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Bill
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> I just did that on my G5.  Just copied the Appleworks folder from
> 'Applications' and was good to go.  No harm, no foul.

Thanks.  That's good news.
Lloyd Parsons - 12 Dec 2007 17:34 GMT
> > > In article
> > > <bbcollins-767F40.08225912122007@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Bill
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>
> Thanks.  That's good news.

You are welcome.

that said, I only kept my Appleworks because I have a couple of simple
databases and iWork doesn't do database.

BUT, iWork is pretty darn good.  I've moved all my documents and
spreadsheets over to Pages and Numbers and am very happy with the move.  
Both are very nice and more than good enough for what I do with those
types of files.  You might want to give them a whirl before trashing
them.
Heli - 12 Dec 2007 18:16 GMT
> > > > In article
> > > > <bbcollins-767F40.08225912122007@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>, Bill
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> types of files.  You might want to give them a whirl before trashing
> them.

Okeydokey. Will do.
P. Sture - 14 Dec 2007 11:11 GMT
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> that said, I only kept my Appleworks because I have a couple of simple
> databases and iWork doesn't do database.
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> types of files.  You might want to give them a whirl before trashing
> them.

I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports, but
I'm getting used to it.

OTOH I've been struggling for several years now to successfully import
and print MS Word documents without having to fiddle around with header
and page sizes to get the correct pagination. I've tried OpenOffice,
NeoOffice, and the other usual suspects, always with something not
coming out quite right.

So far, Pages has got it right every time.

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John Rethorst - 15 Dec 2007 02:58 GMT
> I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
> existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports, but
> I'm getting used to it.

Ouch. I'm sure they'll fix that soon.

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JCrowe - 15 Dec 2007 17:30 GMT
> I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
> existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports, but
> I'm getting used to it.

   I know this is a little painful, but it's easy to convert the comma
separated export of Numbers into a tab separated file. If you feel
comfortable on the command line, you can use some tools from the
command line that support regular expressions to substitute tabs for
the commas. What  you have to be careful about is those instances of
commas inside of text strings, which you would not want to replace.
Of course, the export functionality creates a separate file for each
sheet so if that's a problem, you have other challenges.

> OTOH I've been struggling for several years now to successfully import
> and print MS Word documents without having to fiddle around with header
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>
> So far, Pages has got it right every time.

   I've noticed this as well.
P. Sture - 18 Dec 2007 01:53 GMT
> > I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
> > existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports, but
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> Of course, the export functionality creates a separate file for each
> sheet so if that's a problem, you have other challenges.

It's the possibility of commas within a text field which had me using
tab delimited exports in the first place.

I am comfortable with the command line. Any suggestions as to which
tools to look into? I don't see the point of reinventing the wheel...

> > OTOH I've been struggling for several years now to successfully import
> > and print MS Word documents without having to fiddle around with header
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>
>     I've noticed this as well.

Sounds good.

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Gregory Weston - 18 Dec 2007 03:05 GMT
> > > I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
> > > existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports, but
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> It's the possibility of commas within a text field which had me using
> tab delimited exports in the first place.

That's generally handled by wrapping fields that contain commas in
double-quotes. Any program that claims to be able to handle
comma-delimited input should recognize and support that idiom.

G
P. Sture - 18 Dec 2007 11:50 GMT
> > > > I've still got a few niggles about Numbers, the primary one for my
> > > > existing workflow being that it doesn't offer tab delimited exports,
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> double-quotes. Any program that claims to be able to handle
> comma-delimited input should recognize and support that idiom.

Coincidentally, I've just discovered that SQLITE doesn't ignore commas
within double quoted fields. Go figure.

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Gregory Weston - 18 Dec 2007 12:39 GMT
> > > It's the possibility of commas within a text field which had me using
> > > tab delimited exports in the first place.
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> Coincidentally, I've just discovered that SQLITE doesn't ignore commas
> within double quoted fields. Go figure.

Coincidentally, SQLite doesn't claim to be able to import CSV files. Go
figure.

That's aside from not having been mentioned in this thread before,
AFAICT.
P. Sture - 18 Dec 2007 18:57 GMT
> > > > It's the possibility of commas within a text field which had me using
> > > > tab delimited exports in the first place.
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> Coincidentally, SQLite doesn't claim to be able to import CSV files. Go
> figure.

Apologies, I was fooled there by the fact the help claims to support CSV
as output.

> That's aside from not having been mentioned in this thread before,
> AFAICT.

True, it was red herring :-(

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Beth C - 18 Dec 2007 23:03 GMT
> In article <121220071555507129%haiheli....@xs4all.nl>,
>
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> I just did that on my G5.  Just copied the Appleworks folder from
> 'Applications' and was good to go.  No harm, no foul.

Ditto on a G4 OS 10.4. After asking the same on a Appleworks list.
Now I am good to go also.
Beth C - 15 Dec 2007 02:09 GMT
> My new iMac came with preinstalled iWork and Office. I won't start them
> up. Can I just trash the folders? I don't have to uninstall something?

I had  my appleworks folders on a cd for save keeping. When I got my
new ibook I just got that cd put it in and copied my appleworks folder
to my doc folder. No problems.
Heli - 18 Dec 2007 13:19 GMT
In article
<19c7bfa1-fbfa-4a7c-8c1b-d0c81bd76dc4@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

> > My new iMac came with preinstalled iWork and Office. I won't start them
> > up. Can I just trash the folders? I don't have to uninstall something?
>
> I had  my appleworks folders on a cd for save keeping. When I got my
> new ibook I just got that cd put it in and copied my appleworks folder
> to my doc folder. No problems.

I did have some problems with AppleWorks after I had moved it to my new
iMac with Leopard. When I clicked on Templates and Recent Items it
always crashed. Then I looked at the folders and files and noticed that
many of them had microsoft icons (Office) and clicking on them brought
up a microsoft window asking me to start up Office. So somehow even an
uninstalled Office has the typical imperial behaviour of MS.
Then I deleted Office and reinstalled AppleWorks, then deleted all
remaining files or templates with an MS icon. And now AppleWorks works
as it should.
 
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