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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / December 2007Need PS Elements 3 and 4 help
Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 doesn't run under Leopard and I am seeking a replacement. Elements 3 and 4 look like they will do what I need. Problem: Apparently Elements 3 and 4 have restrictions on the processing of images of bank notes. I collect bank notes from around the world and used Elements 2 for the purposes of cataloguing my collection and for selling notes on eBay. Originally I had heard that Elements 3 and 4 would not open bank note images at all, but I have heard rumours that they will open but not print, maybe allow saves but maybe not, that v.3 is more restrictive about this than v.4, etc. Info about this for Windows versions of Elements is more widely available, including a patch floating around various torrent sites. But details about Mac versions seems to be hard to find. So please do me a favour, Elements 3 and 4 users. Scan some modern bank notes (CAD, EUR, USD, GBP, JPY, CHF, etc, anything from 2000 or newer) Or try looking at http://coins.ebay.com for paper money auctions and use the images there. Or you can use this image taken from a British bank note: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/projects/currency/eurion-no1.png Let me know if Elements 3 and 4 will allow 300 and 72dpi scanning, simple processing (resizing, etc). I don't need to print. In an earlier thread, somebody showed me a workaround using the full version of Photoshop. But I can't afford to buy the full version, so that won't work for me (Thanks anyway, Dave.) Thanks a lot for any help. -- K. Lang may your lum reek. > Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 doesn't run under Leopard and I am > seeking a replacement. Elements 3 and 4 look like they will do what I > need. > > Problem: Apparently Elements 3 and 4 have restrictions on the > processing of images of bank notes. Interesting. I didn't think that showed up until after Elements 4. Greg > Interesting. I didn't think that showed up until after Elements 4. *After* Elements 4? Elements 4 is the current version. It came out in 2006.  SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. >> Interesting. I didn't think that showed up until after Elements 4. > > *After* Elements 4? Elements 4 is the current version. It came out in > 2006. Yeah, the articles I read were Windows-centric, the Windows version is up to Elements 6, and I could have sworn that limitation was added to Elements 5. I'm probably off by a version. I have Elements 3 for Mac, let me check it out. Greg >>> Interesting. I didn't think that showed up until after Elements 4. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I have Elements 3 for Mac, let me check it out. Ouch. That sucks. It pops up a dialog box saying it won't process bank notes and asks if you want to view a web page for further details. Greg > Ouch. That sucks. It pops up a dialog box saying it won't process bank > notes and asks if you want to view a web page for further details. Okay, thanks Greg. v.3 is out then. Too bad; I can get it for much cheaper than v.4. Anyone have v.4 to test? SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. >> Ouch. That sucks. It pops up a dialog box saying it won't process bank >> notes and asks if you want to view a web page for further details. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Anyone have v.4 to test? I was going to say that I'm pessimistic about your endeavor but I opened the same image in CS3 with no problems. I sharpened it a little, saved it, but it won't print on either my Brother HL-5250DN (funny, who would try to pass of a b&w bank note?) nor my Epson P2200. Greg >> Ouch. That sucks. It pops up a dialog box saying it won't process bank >> notes and asks if you want to view a web page for further details. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Anyone have v.4 to test? I can try it tonight. (Photoshop Elements 5 @ Win and Photoshop Elements 4 @ Mac ) Daniel In article <0983e181-eaaa-409b-beb0-92d5a69136e7@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, > Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 doesn't run under Leopard and I am > seeking a replacement. Elements 3 and 4 look like they will do what I [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Lang may your lum reek. Go to your favorite store where Macs are sold and ask for a demo. > Go to your favorite store where Macs are sold and ask for a demo. I actually went to three of them today! All of them had sealed copies of Elements v.4 for sale, but none would let me demo it first before buying. And while Adobe offers an evaluation download for the Windows version of PSE, there's none for the Mac version. Pox on Adobe (and on all developers!) who don't offer evaluation versions of their software. Perhaps I will download a pirated version for evaluation before deciding to buy it or look for another program. Too bad if I have to do that. But I won't spend a non-refundable $100 on anything if I'm not 100% sure that it will do what I need it to do. I do heartily thank those who have tried out theirs at home and reported back to me. SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. > > Go to your favorite store where Macs are sold and ask for a demo. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I do heartily thank those who have tried out theirs at home and reported > back to me. Have you checked out the application GraphicConverter it has many features for handling images it might just do what you want. > Have you checked out the application GraphicConverter it has many > features for handling images it might just do what you want. Yes, and while it is a very useful app, it's not really a replacement for Photoshop Elements. The two apps are horses of different colours. SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. >> Have you checked out the application GraphicConverter it has many >> features for handling images it might just do what you want. > > Yes, and while it is a very useful app, it's not really a replacement > for Photoshop Elements. The two apps are horses of different colours. GimpShop, then...? http://www.gimpshop.com/ > GimpShop, then...? I can't get GimpShop to run on my Mac. If I launch it it hangs at the "caching fonts..." window for about a minute, and then quits unexpectedly. Same thing in other user accounts. I reinstalled X11 from my Leopard install disc, still no go. Running 10.5.1 on a 1.25GHz G4. Any ideas? This message is written to the crash log: Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib Referenced from: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.2.dylib Reason: Incompatible library version: libXft.2.dylib requires version 3.0.0 or later, but libfontconfig.1.dylib provides version 2.0.0 Anyone tried opening/processing banknote images with Elements v.4 yet? SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. > This message is written to the crash log: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Reason: Incompatible library version: libXft.2.dylib requires version > 3.0.0 or later, but libfontconfig.1.dylib provides version 2.0.0 Apparently, it's looking at a version of the library _inside_ Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/ before using the system-installed libraries. You'll probably have to edit the startup script, or remove that library from the app package (at your peril, make a backup first), or tinker with DYLOAD_LIBRARY_PATH (or whatever), or try: http://www.wilber-loves-apple.org/topic.php?id=45 SignatureW. Oates >> GimpShop, then...? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > from my Leopard install disc, still no go. Running 10.5.1 on a 1.25GHz > G4. Any ideas? Fraid not... I've only ever used gimp.app, which isn't tweaked to look like Photoshop. > I collect bank notes from around the world and used Elements 2 for the > purposes of cataloguing my collection and for selling notes on eBay. Can't you use iPhoto for cataloging your collection? I just scanned a $20 bill and imported it into iPhoto with no problem. > Let me know if Elements 3 and 4 will allow 300 and 72dpi scanning, simple > processing (resizing, etc). I don't need to print. iPhoto includes simple processing, but not resizing. Photoshop Elements does that, but I can't test if it rejects bills because I just upgraded to Leopard and my old Photoshop Elements v 2 won't run in this OS. SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEW lamps for OLD for email. > > I collect bank notes from around the world and used Elements 2 for the > > purposes of cataloguing my collection and for selling notes on eBay. > > Can't you use iPhoto for cataloging your collection? I just scanned a $20 > bill and imported it into iPhoto with no problem. I have a different program that I use for cataloguing, it's a program called iCollect that is specifically for bank note collectors. But I'm still looking for an all-in-one app that will allow scanning and editing of bank notes images, and for some light duty image editong work. Elements 2 did everything I needed it to do. For now I am rebooting into a Tiger partition and using Elements 2 there. I might just keep doing that if Elements 4 doesn't work out. I haven't looked hard at GimpShop, but I'm not thrilled about it running in X11 instead of Aqua. I'll take a closer look at it. SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. > But I'm still looking for an all-in-one app that will allow scanning and > editing of bank notes images, and for some light duty image editong > work. Someone gave a demo of a Photoshop-like $60 program called Pixelmator at a MUG meeting last night. I just downloaded a copy, scanned a $20 bill, and was able to manipulate and print the image, so this is definitely something you should look at: http://www.pixelmator.com/ It doesn't appear to be TWAIN-compliant, though, or support PS plug-ins, so I had to scan first, then open the document with Pixelmator. Signature<http://designsbymike.info/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.info/shop/musings.cgi> Muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.info/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart |
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