Share Laserprinter over Internet?
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The Wolf - 09 Dec 2007 21:52 GMT Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my printer over the internet?
Erik Richard Sørensen - 10 Dec 2007 00:30 GMT > Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my > printer over the internet? It depends on the printer and the accompagned software. - Fx. had I bought a Lexmark E323 networkprinter, which came with software for sharing over the web, but i gave up using it, since it's vry complicated to stup correctly. And if I remember right, some of the bigger HP laserprinters also can do this with the accompagned software. I sold the E323 and bought then a Brother HL-2070N. - this one doesn't seem to support printing over web.
But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try...
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Howard S Shubs - 10 Dec 2007 03:15 GMT > But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and > then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try... Seems like it'd be a matter of setting up permissions on the OP's router, and giving the friend the appropriate connection information. Set up the printer on a particular port, such as lpq, have the router send such traffic to the printer's address, and give the friend the appropriate addressing info.
Or does the OP mean printing through his computer from a remote site?
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Erik Richard Sørensen - 10 Dec 2007 03:33 GMT >> But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and >> then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > send such traffic to the printer's address, and give the friend the > appropriate addressing info. Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a guest to use printer sharing?
> Or does the OP mean printing through his computer from a remote site? I understood it that way, but both possibilities are present...
I'm not network specialist, but my guess was intuitive.:-)
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Howard S Shubs - 14 Dec 2007 02:02 GMT > Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a > guest to use printer sharing? I was reading it as the printer sitting on the OP's LAN, and the remote user wanting access. Remote Desktop wouldn't make sense for that.
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Erik Richard Sørensen - 14 Dec 2007 14:42 GMT >> Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a >> guest to use printer sharing? > > I was reading it as the printer sitting on the OP's LAN, and the remote > user wanting access. Remote Desktop wouldn't make sense for that. why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including 'Printer sharing', and he can just log-in and print, using my network printer - a Brother HL-2070N, if he wants me to have something on paper...
Cheers, Erik Richard
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Howard S Shubs - 15 Dec 2007 16:07 GMT > why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my > machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including > 'Printer sharing', and he can just log-in and print, using my network > printer - a Brother HL-2070N, if he wants me to have something on paper... Strikes me as less efficient, that's why. Why go through the computer to the printer when you can go right to the printer? Either way, the friend needs to access the OP's LAN, so that bit is already done. The issue then is where does the user go once there, to the computer, or to the printer. The only deal is to tell the router where to route incoming requests for the lpr port. Is there an SSH'd lpr port he could use for security? I don't think I've heard of that, and now that I think of it, it's the only reason I can come up with for going through the computer.
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Erik Richard Sørensen - 16 Dec 2007 02:18 GMT >> why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my >> machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > think of it, it's the only reason I can come up with for going through > the computer. Ah, well, maybe I presumed too much here.:-) - Indeed it could be anyone who wanted to access and print out, - not only good and trustworthy friends. So that way understood, security could be questionable.
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J.J. O'Shea - 10 Dec 2007 04:15 GMT > Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my > printer over the internet? That would depend on the printer, the router, and the system setup. How is the printer configured? Does it have its own network connection (Ethernet or wireless) or is it connected to a computer by USB or something else? If connected to a computer, is it one of those printers which ship with USB-only drivers (this would include many HP and Epson printers) because if it is, you're not going to be able to print to it over the _local_ network much less the Internet unless there's a 3rd-party driver available from GutenPrint or someone else. What protocols are you using? Does your ISP allow you to open up port 631, for example, so that you have a print server live on the Internet?
If it's a network printer with a known IP behind a router which is properly configured, there's no problem, you can have that printer operational over the Internet in a matter of seconds. If, on the other hand, it's one of those HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no 3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen.
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The Wolf - 10 Dec 2007 07:14 GMT It is hooked up to my powerbook by Ethernet, and I have an airport express which serves as a router.
I do not know much about networking but I thought I had heard that this could be done.
HP laserjet 2600n
On 12/9/07 8:15 PM, in article 0001HW.C382279800F08498F01846D8@newsgroups.comcast.net, "J.J. O'Shea" <try.not.to@but.see.sig> wrote:
>> Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my >> printer over the internet? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no > 3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen. J.J. O'Shea - 10 Dec 2007 13:42 GMT > It is hooked up to my powerbook by Ethernet, and I have an airport express > which serves as a router. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > HP laserjet 2600n As it's a network printer, you should be able to connect using standard procedures. You'll need to ensure that port 631 is open on _both_ networks, and that you know the WAN IP address of _both_ routers, and that you know the local IP address of the target printer.
Internet Printing uses a protocol named Internet Printing Protocol, IPP, and the associated port, port 631. IPP is built into OS X, both client and server. The ordinary, client, version of OS X turns IPP on automatically when print sharing is turned on. As long as port 631 is open on both routers and you have permission to access the remote network, you can use Printer Setup via IPP to search for and log onto a printer on the remote network exactly the same way you would search for and log onto a printer on your local network.
On an OS X 10.5.x system, go to System Preferences/Print & Fax and click on the '+' button, then click on the 'IP' pane of the dialog that pops up, and select 'Internet Printing Protocol' from the drop-down menu and enter the remote printer's IP and queue information. Versions of OS X prior to 10.5.x should use the Printer Setup Utility or the Print Center Utility.
Windows machines from NT up can also use IPP printers. Windows users might have to set up a LMHOSTS file.
> On 12/9/07 8:15 PM, in article > 0001HW.C382279800F08498F01846D8@newsgroups.comcast.net, "J.J. O'Shea" [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no >> 3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen.
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