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The Wolf - 09 Dec 2007 21:52 GMT
Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my
printer over the internet?
Erik Richard Sørensen - 10 Dec 2007 00:30 GMT
> Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my
> printer over the internet?

It depends on the printer and the accompagned software. - Fx. had I
bought a Lexmark E323 networkprinter, which came with software for
sharing over the web, but i gave up using it, since it's vry complicated
to stup correctly. And if I remember right, some of the bigger HP
laserprinters also can do this with the accompagned software. I sold the
E323 and bought then a Brother HL-2070N. - this one doesn't seem to
support printing over web.

But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and
then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try...

cheers, Erik Richard

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Howard S Shubs - 10 Dec 2007 03:15 GMT
> But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and
> then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try...

Seems like it'd be a matter of setting up permissions on the OP's
router, and giving the friend the appropriate connection information.  
Set up the printer on a particular port, such as lpq, have the router
send such traffic to the printer's address, and give the friend the
appropriate addressing info.

Or does the OP mean printing through his computer from a remote site?

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 10 Dec 2007 03:33 GMT
>> But try to have a look in the System preferences -> 'Sharing' -> and
>> then enable 'webshare'. - I don't know, but it could be worth a try...
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> send such traffic to the printer's address, and give the friend the
> appropriate addressing info.

Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a
guest to use printer sharing?

> Or does the OP mean printing through his computer from a remote site?

I understood it that way, but both possibilities are present...

I'm not network specialist, but my guess was intuitive.:-)

cheers, Erik Richard

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Howard S Shubs - 14 Dec 2007 02:02 GMT
> Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a
> guest to use printer sharing?

I was reading it as the printer sitting on the OP's LAN, and the remote
user wanting access.  Remote Desktop wouldn't make sense for that.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 14 Dec 2007 14:42 GMT
>> Hm, wouldn't it then be better to use Remote Desktop and then allow a
>> guest to use printer sharing?
>
> I was reading it as the printer sitting on the OP's LAN, and the remote
> user wanting access.  Remote Desktop wouldn't make sense for that.

why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my
machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including
'Printer sharing', and he can just log-in and print, using my network
printer - a Brother HL-2070N, if he wants me to have something on paper...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Howard S Shubs - 15 Dec 2007 16:07 GMT
> why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my
> machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including
> 'Printer sharing', and he can just log-in and print, using my network
> printer - a Brother HL-2070N, if he wants me to have something on paper...

Strikes me as less efficient, that's why.  Why go through the computer
to the printer when you can go right to the printer?  Either way, the
friend needs to access the OP's LAN, so that bit is already done.  The
issue then is where does the user go once there, to the computer, or to
the printer.  The only deal is to tell the router where to route
incoming requests for the lpr port.  Is there an SSH'd lpr port he could
use for security?  I don't think I've heard of that, and now that I
think of it, it's the only reason I can come up with for going through
the computer.

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Erik Richard Sørensen - 16 Dec 2007 02:18 GMT
>> why not, Howard? - One of my friends has unlimited access to one of my
>> machines via RD. I've enabled nearly any type of sharing including
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> think of it, it's the only reason I can come up with for going through
> the computer.

Ah, well, maybe I presumed too much here.:-) - Indeed it could be anyone
who wanted to access and print out, - not only good and trustworthy
friends. So that way understood, security could be questionable.

cheers, Erik Richard

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J.J. O'Shea - 10 Dec 2007 04:15 GMT
> Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my
> printer over the internet?

That would depend on the printer, the router, and the system setup. How is
the printer configured? Does it have its own network connection (Ethernet or
wireless) or is it connected to a computer by USB or something else? If
connected to a computer, is it one of those printers which ship with USB-only
drivers (this would include many HP and Epson printers) because if it is,
you're not going to be able to print to it over the _local_ network much less
the Internet unless there's a 3rd-party driver available from GutenPrint or
someone else. What protocols are you using? Does your ISP allow you to open
up port 631, for example, so that you have a print server live on the
Internet?

If it's a network printer with a known IP behind a router which is properly
configured, there's no problem, you can have that printer operational over
the Internet in a matter of seconds. If, on the other hand, it's one of those
HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no
3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen.

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The Wolf - 10 Dec 2007 07:14 GMT
It is hooked up to my powerbook by Ethernet, and I have an airport express
which serves as a router.

I do not know much about networking but I thought I had heard that this
could be done.

HP laserjet 2600n

On 12/9/07 8:15 PM, in article
0001HW.C382279800F08498F01846D8@newsgroups.comcast.net, "J.J. O'Shea"
<try.not.to@but.see.sig> wrote:

>> Is it possible to do this with Leopard? I.e. can a friend send a job to my
>> printer over the internet?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no
> 3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen.
J.J. O'Shea - 10 Dec 2007 13:42 GMT
> It is hooked up to my powerbook by Ethernet, and I have an airport express
> which serves as a router.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> HP laserjet 2600n

As it's a network printer, you should be able to connect using standard
procedures. You'll need to ensure that port 631 is open on _both_ networks,
and that you know the WAN IP address of _both_ routers, and that you know the
local IP address of the target printer.

Internet Printing uses a protocol named Internet Printing Protocol, IPP, and
the associated port, port 631. IPP is built into OS X, both client and
server. The ordinary, client, version of OS X turns IPP on automatically when
print sharing is turned on. As long as port 631 is open on both routers and
you have permission to access the remote network, you can use Printer Setup
via IPP to search for and log onto a printer on the remote network exactly
the same way you would search for and log onto a printer on your local
network.

On an OS X 10.5.x system, go to System Preferences/Print & Fax and click on
the '+' button, then click on the 'IP' pane of the dialog that pops up, and
select 'Internet Printing Protocol' from the drop-down menu and enter the
remote printer's IP and queue information. Versions of OS X prior to 10.5.x
should use the Printer Setup Utility or the Print Center Utility.

Windows machines from NT up can also use IPP printers. Windows users might
have to set up a LMHOSTS file.

> On 12/9/07 8:15 PM, in article
> 0001HW.C382279800F08498F01846D8@newsgroups.comcast.net, "J.J. O'Shea"
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>> HP 'personal' printers which doesn't do networks and for which there are no
>> 3rd-party drivers, it ain't gonna happen.

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