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Tom "Tom" Harrington
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On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
wrote:
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> Tom "Tom" Harrington
> Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002http://www.atomicbird.com/
Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
points clearer.
htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.
I've had no luck finding anything similar for OS X, so any help would
be welcome.
Tom Stiller - 04 Dec 2007 18:24 GMT
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> On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> wrote:
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> I've had no luck finding anything similar for OS X, so any help would
> be welcome.
Doesn't Activity Monitor (/Application/Utilities) do what you want?

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wightstraker - 04 Dec 2007 18:49 GMT
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Yes, but I can't use Activity Monitor when I'm using ssh to access my
mac remotely, then I have to work within the terminal. Correct me if
I'm mistaken. Thanks for your post -
Tom Stiller - 04 Dec 2007 19:43 GMT
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> mac remotely, then I have to work within the terminal. Correct me if
> I'm mistaken. Thanks for your post -
I don't know what your workflow is, but I use VNC (tunneled through SSH)
to communicate with my remote hosts. In that environment, I can launch
any Mac Application.

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wightstraker - 04 Dec 2007 19:49 GMT
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Is the free version of VNC useful? Do I need X11 to run it?
Tom Stiller - 04 Dec 2007 19:56 GMT
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> Is the free version of VNC useful? Do I need X11 to run it?
Yes; no.

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Gregory Weston - 04 Dec 2007 19:22 GMT
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<0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fda51@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
> points clearer.
It wasn't condescension. It was a request for information that would be
helpful in meaningfully answering your question. If we don't know what
differences between top and htop you care about, we can't really provide
a good alternative. You may not have noticed, but the sourceforge site
for htop is godawful slow. I gave up trying to figure out what made htop
desirable in general, let alone for you specifically.
> htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
> using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
> within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
> manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
> the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.
Don't know of any way to scroll, but you can reorder which might help
alleviate things. You can also send any signal you like to any process
using the stock OS X top.
wightstraker - 04 Dec 2007 19:29 GMT
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> alleviate things. You can also send any signal you like to any process
> using the stock OS X top.
> It wasn't condescension.
I don't mind what Tom said, just how he said it. No point arguing over
semantics though.
>You can also send any signal you like to any process
> using the stock OS X top.
How do you do that? Issuing kill within top would be a helpful
example. Thanks for your post.
Barry Margolin - 04 Dec 2007 19:47 GMT
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> How do you do that? Issuing kill within top would be a helpful
> example. Thanks for your post.
S<signal><space><pid>
Another option is to use VNC to bring up a remote GUI, and then use
Activity Monitor.

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Shawn Hirn - 05 Dec 2007 12:46 GMT
In article
<0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fda51@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> wrote:
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> I've had no luck finding anything similar for OS X, so any help would
> be welcome.
Why not just use the Applications manager that is installed in the
Utilities folder by default in Mac OS X? Based on your description, it
does everything you asked for.
Barry Margolin - 06 Dec 2007 04:09 GMT
> Why not just use the Applications manager that is installed in the
I assume you mean Activity Monitor.
> Utilities folder by default in Mac OS X? Based on your description, it
> does everything you asked for.
Except that it requires a GUI, and he specifically said that he's
accessing his Mac remotely via SSH. So he also needs to use a remote
desktop application, like VNC.

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