My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
not see any sign that it was open other than that and the triangle
under the Mail icon). She tried opening a window - which showed all
of her messages gone.
When she couldn't reboot her Mac without quitting Mail, she came to
me. I told her to force quit Mail, she did - and when she restarted
it, her messages were there.
What could have caused this behavior?
Bill - 28 Nov 2007 14:57 GMT
> My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
> it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
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>
> What could have caused this behavior?
Computers -- even Macs -- sometimes get befuddled. This also applies to
individual application programs. Quit/Relaunch/Restart often fixes the
problem, as it appears to have done in this case.
If it continues to happen, maybe there is something corrupted that needs
to be fixed. For an individual application, this may be the Preferences
file. To fix it, quit the application, find the appropriate Preferences
file, and trash it. When you launch the application again, it will
rebuild a new, clean preferences file.
Find the Preferences for an individual application in
[User] >> Library >> Preferences >> [appropriate preference file listed
by application name]
It is telltale if the problem occurs in one User account but not
another. This is almost certainly due to corruption of a Preferences
file in that User account. Each User account has its own set of
Preferences for each application.
If the trouble is not limited to one user, but still affects only one
application, consider reinstalling the application.
If the trouble is not limited to one application, that may indicate a
system-wide problem. Repair Disk Permissions may help; use Disk Utility
to do this. If that does not cure it, you may need to reinstall the OS.
The Mac help file gives troubleshooting tips.
If all else fails, call Apple tach support. They are actually quite
helpful. Tech support is free of charge if the computer is still in the
first 90 days, or if you have purchased Applecare Support.
erilar - 28 Nov 2007 17:00 GMT
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<bbcollins-017A7A.09573228112007@032-478-847.area7.spcsdns.net>,
> > My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
> > it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
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> helpful. Tech support is free of charge if the computer is still in the
> first 90 days, or if you have purchased Applecare Support.
I've had mail do it at least once. I've had various other applications
do it from time to time. Force Quit usually solves the problem. I
sometimes overdo the multi-tasking, even with 2 gb of RAM 8-)

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Dave Balderstone - 28 Nov 2007 15:12 GMT
> My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
> it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
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>
> What could have caused this behavior?
That can only be caused by surfing online porn sites.

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haldir - 29 Nov 2007 00:45 GMT
> That can only be caused by surfing online porn sites.
I have been working very hard to replicate without success so far. But
will keep at it for the good of the group.
Dave Balderstone - 29 Nov 2007 01:18 GMT
> > That can only be caused by surfing online porn sites.
>
> I have been working very hard to replicate without success so far. But
> will keep at it for the good of the group.
We all appreciate your efforts.

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gtr - 28 Nov 2007 17:14 GMT
> My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
> it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
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>
> What could have caused this behavior?
Sometimes, if I lose my internet connection while working in a mail or
newsgroup-readers application, sometimes even a browser, I find it
doesn't want to let the program go. The program name in the menu bar
is reversed (white-on-black), and it's neither shut-down nor
accessible. It just wouldn't quit completely. So I force-quite it and
on rare occasions STILL find the thing won't die, seemingly starting
back up in "ghost" mode like this.
Regarding the apparent missing messages, she may well have had a
cleaned spam-directory or some such open. That happened to me one time
and I was fearful I had lost all messages.

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Tom Stiller - 28 Nov 2007 19:46 GMT
> My wife's Mail stopped working last night - she couldn't quit it, and
> it was showing as the application in the menu bar (although she did
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> What could have caused this behavior?
Is she running Leopard and using Spaces? I've seen the problem where
Spaces loses one or more windows and the only thing that will get them
back, short of logging out, is to disable Spaces. After the windows
become visible, Spaces can be re-enabled.
I've reported that problem and Apple confirmed that it was a known
problem and had been reported previously.

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Howard Brazee - 28 Nov 2007 20:49 GMT
>Is she running Leopard and using Spaces? I've seen the problem where
>Spaces loses one or more windows and the only thing that will get them
>back, short of logging out, is to disable Spaces. After the windows
>become visible, Spaces can be re-enabled.
No Leopard yet.
Jeffrey Goldberg - 28 Nov 2007 22:36 GMT
> My wife's Mail stopped working last night [...]
> When she couldn't reboot her Mac without quitting Mail, she came to
> me. I told her to force quit Mail, she did - and when she restarted
> it, her messages were there.
I can't count the number of times I've had to force quit Mail.app. Large
IMAP mailboxes (with say more than 20K messages) may have contributed to
the problem. Also some plug-ins also. I have found Mail.app to be the
least stable of all of the things bundled with OS X that I regularly use.
I've only had to force quit Mail.app once since moving to Leopard.
-j

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