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Palle Jensen - 24 Nov 2007 07:33 GMT
Hi there,

I have started using MT NewsWatcher, and I acually like it this time (I
gave it a short try sie time ago :-))

One thing I can not  figure out though, is how I tell MTN NOT to remove
read articles? It can not be a filter because there is not a filter
supposed to do that.

There is a option to do it manually (News --> Remove Read), so I don't
undestand why it is done automatically?

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Palle

dorayme - 24 Nov 2007 07:52 GMT
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<laboratoriexGEORGE.W.BUSH-D091B2.08335124112007@news.sunsite.dk>
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> Hi there,
>
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> There is a option to do it manually (News --> Remove Read), so I don't
> undestand why it is done automatically?

MT is an online newsreader and you will simply go mad if you do
not embrace it. It is completely and utterly hopeless as anything
else. If you want the Outlook Express keeping of threads (and I
admit this is nice and a hard habit to kick), there are much more
suitable newsreaders you can get.

You can keep everything in MT format if you simply select all the
treads you read and command option U and they will seem as if
unread. The other option is to save all in some awful format like
TextEdit as loose files.

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dorayme

Palle Jensen - 24 Nov 2007 09:34 GMT
> MT is an online newsreader and you will simply go mad if you do
> not embrace it. It is completely and utterly hopeless as anything
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> unread. The other option is to save all in some awful format like
> TextEdit as loose files.

OK thanks :-(

The thing that cnfuse me is - as you say - it is an online reader.
Therefore I expect to have an unedited list of articles everytime I
check.

But accepted. MT is dumped..

Back to Unison whitch is OK for now...

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Sander Tekelenburg - 24 Nov 2007 17:20 GMT
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<laboratoriexGEORGE.W.BUSH-D091B2.08335124112007@news.sunsite.dk>,

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> One thing I can not  figure out though, is how I tell MTN NOT to remove
> read articles?

If you truly want to always wade through all read articles everytime,
then access newsgroups directly from MT-NW's Full Group List, which
always contains everything that's available on your newsserver. (But
fetching only unread articles saves time -- MT-NW can keep a sort of
local cache (the Article Index), but that's designed to only be used for
article searches.)

However, there are many ways to go back and fetch read articles on a
case by case basis, when you need to (provided that they're still on
your newsserver or in MT-NW's Article Index).

If you're looking for simple/automatic/convenient local storage of read
articles, then an 'off-line newsreader' (such as MacSOUP) probably fits
that better.

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Wayne C. Morris - 24 Nov 2007 19:27 GMT
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<laboratoriexGEORGE.W.BUSH-D091B2.08335124112007@news.sunsite.dk>,

> I have started using MT NewsWatcher, and I acually like it this time (I
> gave it a short try sie time ago :-))
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> There is a option to do it manually (News --> Remove Read), so I don't
> undestand why it is done automatically?

MT-NW doesn't remove read messages until you close the newsgroup window.  
The "Remove Read" command allows you to remove messages from the window
without having to close & reopen the newsgroup.

If you want to see all the messages every time you open the newsgroup,
there are a few ways to do it, but none of them is truly automatic:

Option 1:  Uncheck the Saving Files -> Auto Save on Quit option.  When
you quit, MT-NW will ask whether you want to save your group list; tell
it to quite WITHOUT saving the group list.  In effect, all messages will
be automatically marked as "unread" when you quit MT-NW.

Option 2:  Before you close a group window, do a Select All and Mark As
Unread (command-option-U).  Next time you open the group, those messages
will still be there.

Option 3:  After closing or before opening a newsgroup, select it and
use the Mark As Unread command on it.  All the messages in it will be
unread, so when you open that newsgroup, you'll see all of them.

Option 4:  Hold down the Option key when opening a newsgroup.  You'll
get a dialog to control how many messages it'll fetch.  For example, if
you specify "messages posted less than 6 months ago", all messages less
than 6 months old will be marked as unread.
Barry Margolin - 24 Nov 2007 22:20 GMT
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<wayne.morris-4D3A26.13271324112007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,

> In article
> <laboratoriexGEORGE.W.BUSH-D091B2.08335124112007@news.sunsite.dk>,
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> you specify "messages posted less than 6 months ago", all messages less
> than 6 months old will be marked as unread.

I suspect he wants to see them with the check-mark next to the ones he's
read already, so that he doesn't have to read all the old messages to
find the new ones.
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The World Wide Wade - 25 Nov 2007 04:45 GMT
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<wayne.morris-4D3A26.13271324112007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,

> Option 1:  Uncheck the Saving Files -> Auto Save on Quit option.  When
> you quit, MT-NW will ask whether you want to save your group list; tell
> it to quite WITHOUT saving the group list.  In effect, all messages will
> be automatically marked as "unread" when you quit MT-NW.

That's the way I do it; works fine.
 
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