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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / July 2007Post-migration glitches, iBook G4 Panther -> MacBook Tiger
Two days ago my iBook G4 running Panther died of some purely electronic disease (not a HD problem; just wouldn't boot most of the time, or stay running when it did boot). Purchased a new MacBook with Tiger and managed to recover essentially all my user files, apps, prefs, and setting files from an external drive that had a recent SuperDuper! backup, using Tiger's Migration Assistant (what a great combination!) -- except for a few glitches A major problem is that I can simply no longer see an Ethernetted hp LaserJet 6MP printer that's plugged into one of the RJ45 LAN ports on our DSL modem, with the MacBook networked into the same LAN via an Airport base station that's also plugged into the same DSL modem. My earlier Panther iBook had no problem seeing this printer over the same Airport network, nor does my wife's Tiger PowerBook G4 have any problem seeing it in the same fashion. A minor hassle is that the QuickContact menulet associated with the Now Contact database app just won't show up in the MacBook's menu bar (Now Contact app itself runs just fine). Tried zapping all the associated .plist files and restarting; no luck. Anyone have any ideas on either of these? > A major problem is that I can simply no longer see an Ethernetted hp > LaserJet 6MP printer that's plugged into one of the RJ45 LAN ports on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Airport network, nor does my wife's Tiger PowerBook G4 have any problem > seeing it in the same fashion. Have you enabled AppleTalk on the MacBook? > A minor hassle is that the QuickContact menulet associated with the Now > Contact database app just won't show up in the MacBook's menu bar (Now > Contact app itself runs just fine). Tried zapping all the associated > .plist files and restarting; no luck. Just reinstall Now Contact and all should be back to normal. (The same thing happens if you do an Archive and Install installation of OS X. When I encountered that on a client's Mac I decided it would be a lot faster to reinstall Now Contact than to find and move the missing component from the Previous Systems folder.)  Signature<http://designsbymike.info/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.info/shop/musings.cgi> Muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.info/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.info/shop/dance.cgi> Ballroom dance shirts & gifts > > A major problem is that I can simply no longer see an Ethernetted hp > > LaserJet 6MP printer that's plugged into one of the RJ45 LAN ports on > > our DSL modem > > Have you enabled AppleTalk on the MacBook? Yes, did all that stuff. In fact, I went through all of the networking and printing settings files on my wife's 15" Tiger PowerBook that seemed to have any possible relevance to this problem,and duplicated them on my Tiger MacBook -- no joy, she can see the printer fine, I can't. [Just for the record, it's an hp LaserJet 6MP, with a Farallon EtherMac iPrint adaptor connected between the printer's AppleTalk port and one of the DSL modem's LAN ports. Maybe I'll turn off Airport on the MacBook, run an Ethernet cable from the MacBook straight into the DSL modem, and see if I can see it that way.] > > > A major problem is that I can simply no longer see an Ethernetted hp > > > LaserJet 6MP printer that's plugged into one of the RJ45 LAN ports on [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > run an Ethernet cable from the MacBook straight into the DSL modem, and > see if I can see it that way.] For reference, I've just been through the same hassle, in my case a PowerBook G4 which died with a logic board fault, replaced with a MacBook Pro. I used Migration Assistant to transfer all my applications and data. I also have an HP LaserJet 6MP, with an HP JetDirect EX Plus (Ethernet to Parallel), and an Airport base station. In addition to the MacBook Pro, I also have a wired PowerMac G4. Both computers can see the printer, so I expect there is just a setting you've missed on your MacBook. The most likely issue is that you've enabled AppleTalk on the wrong interface. AppleTalk can only be enabled on one network interface at a time. I have mine enabled on the Airport interface, but if you had yours enabled on Built-in Ethernet then you wouldn't see the printer unless you plugged in a network cable. In System Preferences > Network, go to the Airport interface, click on its AppleTalk tab and make sure AppleTalk is enabled. If that setting appears to be correct, then there might be a configuration issue with your network which is causing confusion, and some more extensive diagnostics may be required to track it down. As for your other issue with Now Contact: if reinstalling doesn't bring your menu extra back, a possible explanation is that you are running an old version which is not compatible with Tiger, or hasn't been updated to be "Universal" (so it doesn't run natively on an Intel Mac). PowerPC plugins won't run in an Intel native application, and it wouldn't surprise me if menu extras fall into this category. SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > As for your other issue with Now Contact: if reinstalling doesn't bring > your menu extra back, a possible explanation is that you are running an > old version which is not compatible with Tiger, or hasn't been updated > to be "Universal" (so it doesn't run natively on an Intel Mac). PowerPC > plugins won't run in an Intel native application, and it wouldn't > surprise me if menu extras fall into this category. Thanks. Reinstalling from a nudcm531.dmg disk image was fast and easy, and brought back the QuickContact menu icon. (A user interface gimmick, by the way, which I sure wish other databases would copy!!) > In addition to the MacBook Pro, I also have a wired PowerMac G4. Both > computers can see the printer, so I expect there is just a setting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > configuration issue with your network which is causing confusion, and > some more extensive diagnostics may be required to track it down. Thanks -- have tried the AppleTalk enabling repeatedly, w/o success. Will try connecting via cable instead of Airport; haven't had a chance to set this up yet. > > In System Preferences > Network, go to the Airport interface, click on > > its AppleTalk tab and make sure AppleTalk is enabled. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Will try connecting via cable instead of Airport; haven't had a chance > to set this up yet. Another thing to try, which will verify whether your AppleTalk configuration is working: Go into Utilities > Terminal, and at the command prompt type atlookup then press Return This does an AppleTalk name search for all devices on your network. It should display a line for each device which is advertising its presence. With my network, I see something like this: Found 4 entries in zone * fffc.b5.80 Cyclops:Darwin ff01.80.08 HP LaserJet 6P:SNMP Agent ff01.80.9e HP LaserJet 6P:LaserWriter ff01.80.9d HP LaserJet 6P:HP LaserJet 6MP The numbers in the first column are AppleTalk addresses, which are self assigned and aren't significant, except that the first two parts uniquely identify the device on the AppleTalk network (e.g. ff01.80 is my HP LaserJet), and the last part distinguishes between multiple functions being advertised by the same device. The second column has the device name and device type, separated by colons. The first line is my laptop. The other three are my HP JetDirect print server, which knows it is connected to a LaserJet 6MP (with the printer using its default name of "HP LaserJet 6P"). It is advertising itself on the network for management purposes (SNMP), as a laser printer (LaserWriter) and as an HP LaserJet 6MP (for the Mac OS 9 HP printer admin software). If I turn on my PowerMac G4 (which has file sharing enabled), I see two more entries, of the forms "name:Darwin" and "name:AFPServer". It has personal file sharing enabled, but even without that, I still see the "Darwin" entry. If you try the same command, you should see at least a "name_of_printer:LaserWriter" entry, and a "Darwin" entry for your MacBook and for any other active computers which have AppleTalk enabled. I don't know exactly what services the Farallon iPrint advertises, but it might only list one entry for your printer instead of 3. If atlookup is showing your printer, the problem is likely to be related to the printing subsystem on your MacBook, and it might need to be reset and/or you might need to install some drivers. I would expect your LaserJet to at least appear as a generic laser printer even if you didn't have the HP LaserJet drivers installed. SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > Two days ago my iBook G4 running Panther died of some purely electronic > disease (not a HD problem; just wouldn't boot most of the time, or stay [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Anyone have any ideas on either of these? I moved from a PB to a MBP using Migration Assistant. This managed to mess up some of the OS software, although it took a while for some of the problems to manifest themselves. I archive re-installed the OS. This clobbered one (but not both) of my printer drivers, my scanner driver and the PDA program that monitors PDA connections. Merely re-installing them solved the problem. Because of this I created a file of everything I need to do if I have to archive re-install the OS. There may be other programs I seldom use that will also have to be reinstalled. I also had a problem where the MBP would freeze and the only solution was to power down and restart. Apple said I might have to do an erase/install to eliminate any chance of software issues. Does anybody know how to recover non OS stuff from a backup after doing that? I don't. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] |
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