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Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 19:45 GMT
Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
Thanks
Dudley Henriques
ßiagio® - 28 Jun 2007 19:53 GMT
Dudley Henriques schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:

>  Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX
> 10.4.10 that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?

NeoOffice?

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ßiagio® - 28 Jun 2007 19:54 GMT
ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:

>>    Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX
>> 10.4.10 that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?

>  NeoOffice?

And Apple Keynote also :-)

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Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 20:02 GMT
> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>
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>
> And Apple Keynote also :-)

I guess there's no freeware that will work with Mac? On the PC, I had a
small viewer available from MS that allowed me to view a PP file without
having PP on the system which was nice since I don't use PP and only
need it to see a file if someone sends me one once in a while...like
TODAY :-))
Oh well....I guess asking MS to provide this "curtesy" to the
competition might be asking a bit much :-)
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
DH
Jolly Roger - 28 Jun 2007 20:51 GMT
>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>
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> only need it to see a file if someone sends me one once in a
> while...like TODAY :-))

OpenOffice is freeware:

    <http://www.openoffice.org/>

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Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 21:24 GMT
>>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>>
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>
>     <http://www.openoffice.org/>

Thanks. I'll look into this.
D
Joey Dee from NYC - 28 Jun 2007 20:57 GMT
>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Anyway, thanks for the reply.
> DH

Did you miss Biagio's pointer to NeoOffice? I'm pretty sure it has a PP
component, compatible with MS's PP, and it's free... it also has word,
spreadsheet and database capabilities, too. It's a very decent open source
alternative to MS.

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Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 21:26 GMT
>>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> spreadsheet and database capabilities, too. It's a very decent open source
> alternative to MS.

I'll check this out. Thanks to you both.
D
Shawn Hirn - 29 Jun 2007 02:38 GMT
> >>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I'll check this out. Thanks to you both.
> D

A google search for "Mac PowerPoint viewer" turned up the following link

http://www.tucows.com/preview/206534
Dudley Henriques - 29 Jun 2007 15:07 GMT
>>>>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>>>>
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>
>  http://www.tucows.com/preview/206534
I found this on my initial search before posting here. I could be wrong,
but I believe this utility says it requires a "classic" OS. Mine is
Cocoa being OSX10.4.10.
I passed on it for this reason. Was I mistaken to do so?
DH
Jolly Roger - 29 Jun 2007 16:21 GMT
>> A google search for "Mac PowerPoint viewer" turned up the following link
>>
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> wrong, but I believe this utility says it requires a "classic" OS. Mine
> is Cocoa being OSX10.4.10.

I think you mean "My system is Mac OS X 10.4.10".  Cocoa is one
possible object oriented framework developers can use to create
applications that run in Mac OS X (Carbon is the next most popular).
Classic is a compatibility environment included in Mac OS X that allows
you to run the classic Mac OS 9 version of Mac OS within Mac OS X.

> I passed on it for this reason. Was I mistaken to do so?

I'd probably pass on it, simply because there are other ways out there
to view PPT files that don't require having a classic version of Mac OS
installed and running.

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Dudley Henriques - 30 Jun 2007 01:06 GMT
>>> A google search for "Mac PowerPoint viewer" turned up the following link
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> to view PPT files that don't require having a classic version of Mac OS
> installed and running.

What you are saying I think is what I was trying to convey poorly; that
my system wouldn't be compatible with software made to run in classic.

Dudley Henriques
Jolly Roger - 30 Jun 2007 16:16 GMT
>>>> A google search for "Mac PowerPoint viewer" turned up the following link
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> What you are saying I think is what I was trying to convey poorly; that
> my system wouldn't be compatible with software made to run in classic.

Right - not without installing and running a classic Mac OS
compatibility environment or emulator.

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Tim Lance - 28 Jun 2007 21:19 GMT
>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>
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> Anyway, thanks for the reply.
> DH

NeoOffice IS freeware.

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Jeffrey Goldberg - 28 Jun 2007 21:52 GMT
>> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>>
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>>
> I guess there's no freeware that will work with Mac? On the PC,

NeoOffice is free.
Király - 29 Jun 2007 08:23 GMT
> > And Apple Keynote also :-)
> >
> I guess there's no freeware that will work with Mac?

Keynote's free demo mode it will open and display PowerPoint docs.  If
that's all you need you don't need to register or pay for it.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
Dudley Henriques - 29 Jun 2007 15:08 GMT
>>> And Apple Keynote also :-)
>>>
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>
> Lang may your lum reek.
Thank you.
DH
Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 21:25 GMT
> ßiagio® schreef op 06-28-2007 in comp.sys.mac.apps:
>
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>
> And Apple Keynote also :-)

Thanks.
D
Clever Monkey - 28 Jun 2007 20:22 GMT
> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?

ThinkFree viewer.  They have a Dashboard widget, too.  Works a treat.
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Dudley Henriques - 28 Jun 2007 21:22 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
>
> ThinkFree viewer.  They have a Dashboard widget, too.  Works a treat.
Thanks much.
D
AES - 28 Jun 2007 22:43 GMT
> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
> Thanks
> Dudley Henriques

Dudley,

I'm involved (in retirement) as a volunteer for half a dozen local,
community, university and professional organizations that want
to send me documents and reports in MS Office, Excel, PowerPoint
and so on that I'm supposed to read, study, and/or comment on.  

I have a form letter I send back to each of them saying (politely),
would you like to buy me a suite of Microsoft software applications,
or send me all these docs, as you should, in PDF format?

Have most of them trained at this point.

  --AES
Joey Dee from NYC - 28 Jun 2007 23:15 GMT
> in PDF format?

Except that PDF doesn't work so well with some PowerPoint project, and that
was the OP's initial inquiry.

But besides that, you may also be able to avail yourself of NeoOffice or
OpenOffice as a free download and not have to go through those machinations.

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AES - 29 Jun 2007 00:06 GMT
> > in PDF format?
>
> Except that PDF doesn't work so well with some PowerPoint project, and that
> was the OP's initial inquiry.

Because, just maybe, Microsoft doesn't really want their software to
work well with PDF?

> But besides that, you may also be able to avail yourself of NeoOffice or
> OpenOffice as a free download and not have to go through those machinations.

One very large organization I deal with, when asked to please send PDF
instead of .doc files, said plaintively that Gee, they had to pay an
extra fee to MS for every copy of Word they bought that could output
docs in PDF format.  You wouldn't suppose that MS would do that as a way
to try to push all of this organization's correspondents into having to
acquire Word also?

I don't spend my life Microsoft-bashing -- but I think they deserve
every bit of bashing they get, and more.
Dudley Henriques - 29 Jun 2007 00:08 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>    --AES
The power point stuff comes in only rarely from South Africa and deals
with air show flight safety issues. I'm pretty sure I'm the one who
would have to figure out how best to deal with these oddball PP's as the
guys on the other end are a bunch of SAAF fighter pilots who are pretty
much locked in to their software as networked on their government systems.
It's too bad MS doesn't have that small utility PP viewer for Mac's
that's available for PC's, but I've gotten some good suggestions here
that might fit the bill.
DH
David Blanchard - 29 Jun 2007 02:27 GMT
>It's too bad MS doesn't have that small utility PP viewer for Mac's
>that's available for PC's, but I've gotten some good suggestions here
>that might fit the bill.

Microsoft has a PPT viewer for Mac OS 9.  It's called PowerPoint 98
Viewer for Macintosh.  It's still available and runs fine in Classic
under OS X 10.4.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283-23e84b616477&displaylang=en>

-David
Dudley Henriques - 29 Jun 2007 15:09 GMT
>> It's too bad MS doesn't have that small utility PP viewer for Mac's
>> that's available for PC's, but I've gotten some good suggestions here
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -David

Many thanks. I'll look into this.
DH
Jeffrey Goldberg - 29 Jun 2007 01:00 GMT
> I have a form letter I send back to each of them saying (politely),
> would you like to buy me a suite of Microsoft software applications,
> or send me all these docs, as you should, in PDF format?

For a while, would send a form letter, first as a DVI file and then
about 30 minutes later as a PDF.  You can find it in a number of formats at

 http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/

Cheers,

-j
C J Campbell - 30 Jun 2007 01:48 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>    --AES

Why don't you ask them to send you Powerpoint documents in Quicktime format?
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C J Campbell - 30 Jun 2007 01:44 GMT
> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
> Thanks
> Dudley Henriques

You do realize, do you not, that Powerpoint was originally written for
the Mac? That Office 2004 contained several features that were not
available in the Windows version? And that Office 2008 for Mac will
contain several features not available in the latest Windows version?

Microsoft Office has always run better on the Mac than it has on any
Windows machine, and it will continue to do so.
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Dudley Henriques - 30 Jun 2007 03:27 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Microsoft Office has always run better on the Mac than it has on any
> Windows machine, and it will continue to do so.

I didn't know that. I'm really a newbie on Mac's, but I like mine a lot
so far. None of the PC hassles I had with the other computer. I have
that PC sitting here right next to the IMac but it's now off line. I
installed XP/SP2 and use it strictly for the flight simulator. I'm still
working with MS on that and am in fact an MVP with them on that program.
I have Microsoft Office for Mac but use it for Word only. I think if I
had known a bit more about Text Edit when I bought the IMac, I could
have saved the money I spent on MS Office. I think the teacher/school
version I bought was $129.
Actually the only reason I need a PP viewer at all is the odd PP file I
get through the mail. Other than that, I really have no use for it.
Dudley Henriques
Jolly Roger - 30 Jun 2007 16:18 GMT
> I have Microsoft Office for Mac but use it for Word only. I think if I
> had known a bit more about Text Edit when I bought the IMac, I could
> have saved the money I spent on MS Office. I think the teacher/school
> version I bought was $129.
> Actually the only reason I need a PP viewer at all is the odd PP file I
> get through the mail. Other than that, I really have no use for it.

But if you have PowerPoint, why not just use that to view PowerPoint
presentations?

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Dudley Henriques - 30 Jun 2007 16:31 GMT
>> I have Microsoft Office for Mac but use it for Word only. I think if I
>> had known a bit more about Text Edit when I bought the IMac, I could
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But if you have PowerPoint, why not just use that to view PowerPoint
> presentations?

You're not going to believe this, but I didn't know until this post of
yours that I had PP on the system. I bought the teacher version of MS
Office because I needed Word which was not all that smart to begin with,
as Text Edit apparently works with the assets of Word that I need.
I knew I had Excel with this package, but never saw the PP install.
You're right; I have Power Point. I just looked and found it in
applications.
This brings up something. When I got a PP file the other day, it didn't
open automatically in Power Point. Was this because I hadn't opened the
program from within applications and run it once to open it?
I did get a dialog window trying to open the file asking for a program
to open it with but never saw the PP listed as I wasn't looking for it
and assuming I needed a viewer. That's when I quit and posted here about
the viewer :-)
I have just clicked on PP and opened it in applications then closed it
again. Can I assume at this point that the next PP file I get will
automatically open in PP or will I again get the box asking for a
program to open a PP file?
Thanks BTW for catching this. I probably would have gone on in "dumb
world" forever not realizing I had PP on the system all the time :-)
Dudley Henriques
Jolly Roger - 30 Jun 2007 18:13 GMT
>>> I have Microsoft Office for Mac but use it for Word only. I think if I
>>> had known a bit more about Text Edit when I bought the IMac, I could
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> install. You're right; I have Power Point. I just looked and found it
> in applications.

Oh!  Well... now you know.  : )

> This brings up something. When I got a PP file the other day, it didn't
> open automatically in Power Point. Was this because I hadn't opened the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and assuming I needed a viewer. That's when I quit and posted here
> about the viewer :-)

Well I suppose it could be that the Launch Services database hasn't
been updated yet with PowerPoint's file associations.

> I have just clicked on PP and opened it in applications then closed it
> again. Can I assume at this point that the next PP file I get will
> automatically open in PP or will I again get the box asking for a
> program to open a PP file?

Does the Finder "Info" window for the file now show that PowerPoint
will open the file by default? Does the PowerPoint file have the .ppt
filename extension?

> Thanks BTW for catching this. I probably would have gone on in "dumb
> world" forever not realizing I had PP on the system all the time :-)

No problem.  : )

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Dudley Henriques - 30 Jun 2007 19:28 GMT
>>>> I have Microsoft Office for Mac but use it for Word only. I think if
>>>> I had known a bit more about Text Edit when I bought the IMac, I
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> No problem.  : )

I got rid of the darn file yesterday as it wasn't all that pressing.
I'll have to wait now for the next one to arrive to see if PP opens it
automatically. I guess that knowing now it's on the system, I can just
select PP to open any PP file that happens to arrive unannounced :-)
DH
Fred McKenzie - 01 Jul 2007 18:45 GMT
> I got rid of the darn file yesterday as it wasn't all that pressing.
> I'll have to wait now for the next one to arrive to see if PP opens it
> automatically. I guess that knowing now it's on the system, I can just
> select PP to open any PP file that happens to arrive unannounced :-)

DH-

Pick a file.  Any file.  Rename it something like dummie.ppt.  Select it
and choose File-Get Info (CMD I).

If running PowerPoint created the necessary association, you should see
Microsoft PowerPoint listed under OPEN With.  If not, is PowerPoint
included in the list of programs to choose from?  If not, choose
Other... and navigate to the PowerPoint application.  Select it and then
click the Change All... button.

As a test, I picked a small text file.  After renaming it dummie.ppt, it
opened under PowerPoint.

Fred
Dudley Henriques - 01 Jul 2007 22:39 GMT
>> I got rid of the darn file yesterday as it wasn't all that pressing.
>> I'll have to wait now for the next one to arrive to see if PP opens it
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Fred
Thanks. I'll try this today.
DH
arvimide@earthlink.net - 30 Jun 2007 03:45 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Microsoft Office has always run better on the Mac than it has on any
> Windows machine, and it will continue to do so.

Not with respect to Unicode and Rich Text. Office for Mac uses its own
system, not UTF-8, so documents utilizing Unicode and/or Rich Text
created on a Mac in any Office format are only readable on Macs but not
on PC's. Office for PC creates documents in UTF-8 format, readable on
any system, and has done so since Windows 95. Any Unicode or Rich Text
document must be created by any Mac program except Office for Mac to be
generally readable on other systems. I wonder if Office 2008 will
finally correct this design flaw.

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Chris Ridd - 30 Jun 2007 08:56 GMT
>>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> created on a Mac in any Office format are only readable on Macs but not
> on PC's.

That was mostly addressed in Office 2004, with the exception of RTL
text. So Office 2004 (Mac) can read Office 2003 (Windows) docs.

Cheers,

Chris
Jolly Roger - 30 Jun 2007 16:19 GMT
> Microsoft Office has always run better on the Mac than it has on any
> Windows machine, and it will continue to do so.

That depends on what you call "better".  It's certainly not faster on
Mac, for instance.

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Calum - 01 Jul 2007 13:30 GMT
> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?

Did you look?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en

gtr - 01 Jul 2007 17:27 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
>
> Did you look?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en

Is

there anything similar that was programmed by MicroSoft?
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Richard Maine - 01 Jul 2007 17:48 GMT
> >> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
> >> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
> >
> > Did you look?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4
a58-b283-23e84b616477&displaylang=en

> Is
> there anything similar that was programmed by MicroSoft?

Did you perhaps leave a "not" out of that sentence? Otherwise it makes
no sense, as the url cites specifically *IS* to a product from
Microsoft. You can pretty well guess that just by looking at the url,
and actually going there makes it explicit.

If you intended the sentence to have a "not", see other replies in this
thread.

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gtr - 01 Jul 2007 18:30 GMT
>> Is there anything similar that was [not] programmed by MicroSoft?
>
> Did you perhaps leave a "not" out of that sentence?

Yes.
Dudley Henriques - 01 Jul 2007 22:43 GMT
>> Is there a power point viewer somewhere that will work in OSX 10.4.10
>> that is down loadable without purchasing power point from MS?
>
> Did you look?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en
 

This utility was the first thing I found when looking for an answer
before I posted here. Under system requirements for this utility it
clearly states that it requires a 7.5 to 9.X OS. I have OSX10.4.10.
Will this program work on my system?
DH
Jolly Roger - 02 Jul 2007 00:00 GMT
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en

This

> utility was the first thing I found when looking for an answer before I
> posted here. Under system requirements for this utility it clearly
> states that it requires a 7.5 to 9.X OS. I have OSX10.4.10.
> Will this program work on my system?

Yes. It will work on your system in one of the following ways:

* If you have a PowerPC-based Macintosh, you can install Mac OS 9 on
it, then launch this application in the Classic compatibility
environment.

* If you have an Intel-based Macintosh, you can install Sheep Shaver on
it, then install Mac OS 9 into Sheep Shaver, then launch this
application in the Sheep Shaver environment.

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Dudley Henriques - 02 Jul 2007 00:10 GMT
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e25cb1e5-209c-4a58-b283
-23e84b616477&displaylang=en
 
>
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> it, then install Mac OS 9 into Sheep Shaver, then launch this
> application in the Sheep Shaver environment.

I think learning to deal with one OS at a time and switching from a PC
to a Mac will keep me pretty busy. :-)
I'll be upgrading to leopard I think. No need to have OS9 on the system.
Of course, as you and I both discovered yesterday, I have PP on the
system already with the MS suite so all is moot  :-)
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