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Ockham's Razor - 31 May 2007 01:36 GMT
I have three "icons" representing partitions of my HD on the desk top.  

We also keep many "saved" things before we either delete or file on the
desk top.

The computer is shut down nightly and re-booted in the am.  Invariably,
the icons for the HD partitions are spread all over the desk top and
need to be re-placed.

Is there any way to keep things in my chosen place on the desk top?

Running OS X 10.3.9 on G-5 iMac.

TIA

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dorayme - 31 May 2007 01:53 GMT
> I have three "icons" representing partitions of my HD on the desk top.  
>
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> Running OS X 10.3.9 on G-5 iMac.

Have you tried control click on the desktop and Show View
Options?

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Eric P. - 31 May 2007 04:44 GMT
>> I have three "icons" representing partitions of my HD on the desk top.  
>>
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> Have you tried control click on the desktop and Show View
> Options?

Why not leave the computer on, at least in sleep mode, rather than all
that shutting down and restarting? Be kinder to your HD, and allow the
system to run maintenance routines while you sleep.

Just a couple cents,
Eric

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Clever Monkey - 31 May 2007 21:02 GMT
>>> I have three "icons" representing partitions of my HD on the desk top.  
>>>
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> that shutting down and restarting? Be kinder to your HD, and allow the
> system to run maintenance routines while you sleep.

This is ok advice, except that the periodic maintenance scripts will not
be run when the system is in sleep mode.  With the latest release they
could be run some time later when the system is up again, but they will
not run overnight if the system is asleep.  They do not cause your
system to wake, for example, so they can be run.
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dorayme - 31 May 2007 22:55 GMT
> > Why not leave the computer on, at least in sleep mode, rather than all
> > that shutting down and restarting? Be kinder to your HD, and allow the
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> not run overnight if the system is asleep.  They do not cause your
> system to wake, for example, so they can be run.

The question might then become, why not leave the computer on but
not with sleep enabled.

There are arguments for and against this. I have a friend who
leaves machine _and_ his drives spinning literally for years.
Given the reliable electrical supplies around Sydney, few bad
lightening storms and you have to be quite unlucky to be actually
struck, it is a policy with some things going for it. Likely less
wear on the HD too for a computer that gets significant use in
the day.

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Dave Balderstone - 31 May 2007 05:35 GMT
> I have three "icons" representing partitions of my HD on the desk top.  
>
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>
> Running OS X 10.3.9 on G-5 iMac.

Don't shut down.

Don't save things on the desktop. There's a known issue where Desktop
items can become corrupted and prevent the Mac from booted normally.
I've seen several instances over the past two years. Create a folder on
the Desktop and save into it, rather than to the desktop itself.

Select "Keep Arranged By" in the Finder's view options. But that won't
be your "chosen place" necessarily.
Mike Rosenberg - 31 May 2007 14:00 GMT
> Don't shut down.

That may be good advice for anyone who doesn't live in a place that has
frequent power outages, but I live in Northeast Florida, the
thunderstorm capital of North America (yes, seriously), and here it's
essential to advise people who don't shut down that they NEED to use a
UPS with software that will power down the computer during an extended
outage.

When I lived in San Diego, I didn't care about or ever even think about
this, but I bought my first UPS before setting up my Mac when I moved to
Jacksonville.

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Jolly Roger - 31 May 2007 13:15 GMT
> Is there any way to keep things in my chosen place on the desk top?

Try this utility:

<http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19789>

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dorayme - 31 May 2007 13:49 GMT
> > Is there any way to keep things in my chosen place on the desk top?
>
> Try this utility:
>
> <http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19789>

I am reminded of how I used to do it under pre X and older
machines. I was big on lots of alias icons on the desktop (a
practice I am losing these day in X). It was awful when I lost
the arrangement I had, it was my 2-D dock, it was my way of
dragging files over apps and opening apps etc. If I changed
screens or altered resolutions or video cards or or other things,
I would lose the careful idiosyncratic but precious "messy desk"
arrangement.

Applescript to the rescue. Open up AppleScript, use the recorder,
select all the desktop icons and move them just a fraction, then
hit stop recording. The script was the algorithm to move the
icons to that position. (So far, this basic idea was not invented
by me)

If later, one has deleted some icons, the script stops and
protests it cannot find that icon. But I found this not so bad.
The script would stop and _highlight_ the trouble and it was
easily deleted. After a few of these hiccups (you remove the
references in the script for unfound items and carry on) you
basically save a lot of time by getting the bulk of the icons
back to where they were. Naturally, things depend on how many you
have, how many changes since you last saved the AS and so on...
Of course, you have to move the newer icons not mentioned in the
last saved script by hand. And redo the script when finished by
more recording...

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