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Toast VIDEO_TS folder Problems

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Mordekhai@gmail.com - 22 May 2007 21:44 GMT
Hullo,

I've been attempting to back-up a few DVD's, however when I burn  the
VIDEO_TS folder with Roxio Toast, the dvd is not playable. The disc
will mount (the VIDEO_TS folder and Audio folder are both burnt onto
the DVD-R disk) but it will not play on my mac's DVD player or on my
TV.

I don't believe the problem is with the drive, I've made other movies
with iDVD, --Am I missing something with Toast? is Roxio Popcorn any
better since it is more simplistic?
sbt - 22 May 2007 22:17 GMT
> Hullo,
>
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> with iDVD, --Am I missing something with Toast? is Roxio Popcorn any
> better since it is more simplistic?

It depends upon what settings you have in place when you burn. If you
are in the "Data" pane and have chosen the default, "Mac & PC", the
result will generally not be playable on a DVD player -- you need to
have it set for "DVD-ROM (UDP)" or, use the "From VIDEO_TS" setting in
the Video pane. You would have the same problem if you burned them from
the Finder -- you would, instead, need to use Disk Utility to set the
format to CD/DVD Master.

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gtr - 22 May 2007 23:17 GMT
> I've been attempting to back-up a few DVD's, however when I burn  the
> VIDEO_TS folder with Roxio Toast, the dvd is not playable. The disc
> will mount (the VIDEO_TS folder and Audio folder are both burnt onto
> the DVD-R disk) but it will not play on my mac's DVD player or on my
> TV.

From page 109 in the manual:

Making a DVD From a VIDEO_TS Folder

You can create a DVD from an existing DVD-Video VIDEO_TS folder and
play it on a set-top DVD player or in a Macintosh or Windows computer
with a DVD player. Some VIDEO_TS folders may be too large to fit on a
standard recordable 4.7 GB DVD. Toast can compress this video to fit on
a standard DVD, or if your recorder supports dual-layer recordable
DVDs, you can create a dual- layer DVD-Video from this folder. This is
the best choice if you have an existing VIDEO_TS folder.

To make a DVD from a VIDEO_TS folder:

1 At the left side of the Toast window, click Video choose DVD-Video
from VIDEO_TS.

2 Choose Fit-to-DVDTM video compression. Fit-to-DVD automatically
compresses the video to fit on a standard 4.7 GB recordable DVD.
Compressing may result in a slight reduction in video quality, but will
leave the audio quality unchanged. Note If you are recording to a
dual-layer DVD, no compression will occur.

3 Drag and drop a VIDEO_TS folder into the Content Area from your hard
disk. A summary of the information that will be copied appears in the
content area.

4 Click Copy Options to choose optional Fit-to-DVD settings: You can
choose to copy only the main movie with a specific language and audio
format. This will reduce the amount of compression required and
maximize quality and available disc space. See Changing Copy Options on
page110.

5 Insert a blank, recordable DVD.

6 Click the red Record button, choose a recorder from the list, and
configure recording options, such as Number of Copies.

7 Click Record to continue. Toast automatically adds an empty AUDIO_TS
folder to the disc at burn time for improved compatibility with set-top
DVD players. Toast displays a progress bar and status information as it
records your disc. You can preview a DVD prior to burning an actual
disc by saving it as a disc image and then using the Toast Image
mounter.
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Mordekhai@gmail.com - 23 May 2007 04:40 GMT
The directions are more than apparent. I am well aware of those. I
always used the Video burning window with the       `DVD-Video from
Video-TS´setting.  However, the disc is not playable. Any better ideas?
sbt - 23 May 2007 04:51 GMT
> The directions are more than apparent. I am well aware of those. I
> always used the Video burning window with the       `DVD-Video from
> Video-TS´setting.  However, the disc is not playable. Any better ideas?

If you're doing as instructed and it isn't working, then either you've
got DVD-R media that the player doesn't like or there's something
messed up in your hardware.

Does the DVD play in your Mac's DVD Player application? If yes, then
the incompatibility is in your set top player vis a vis the media being
used. If not,  then something's wrong that probably can't be diagnosed
remotely.

Some possibilities include an incomplete or corrupt VIDEO_TS folder
(corrupt or absent IFO/BUP files, which the player uses to "know" how
to play what and when, will mess things up badly) or a VIDEO_TS that
has some DRM  still active (did you copy this from a commercial DVD
without removing ALL the copy-protection?).

The fact that burning following the instructions works here, on all my
Macs (four of them with burners), and on the Macs of so many others
indicates something wrong with either your hardware or your process.

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Reginald Dwight - 23 May 2007 05:26 GMT
> If you're doing as instructed and it isn't working, then either you've
> got DVD-R media that the player doesn't like or there's something
> messed up in your hardware.

What he said. Matshita drives and bargain DVD-R media are the two main
issues here once one knows the correct way to create the DVD.
Mordekhai@gmail.com - 23 May 2007 19:03 GMT
> In article <220520072051394671%dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid>,
>
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> What he said. Matshita drives and bargain DVD-R media are the two main
> issues here once one knows the correct way to create the DVD.

I'm running off of a matshita, I'll try some better discs ---Thanks to
everyone who has put their two cents in--
gtr - 23 May 2007 07:07 GMT
>> The directions are more than apparent. I am well aware of those. I
>> always used the Video burning window with the       `DVD-Video from
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> got DVD-R media that the player doesn't like or there's something
> messed up in your hardware.

As noted elsewhere I just figured the dupe-to-DVD out.  I went to a
party this weekend and a friend gave me some chatter about how some
disks would do it *anyway*.  I thought he was blowing smoke but he said
a mutually friend (Windows user) had read an article on it, when out
and bought samples from 4-5 manufacturers of media.  He burned the same
thing on all of them and some would not work.

I'm using Sony disks.  I read an article long ago that there is a level
of QC that is done with name companies, that no-name brands do not
provide. I'm claiming it's true just that somebody who worked in
manufacturing and told me this.

> Does the DVD play in your Mac's DVD Player application? If yes, then
> the incompatibility is in your set top player vis a vis the media being
> used. If not,  then something's wrong that probably can't be diagnosed
> remotely.

Incidentally it was only in the DVD's playback on desk-top players that
the issues (above) were manifest.

> Some possibilities include an incomplete or corrupt VIDEO_TS folder
> (corrupt or absent IFO/BUP files, which the player uses to "know" how
> to play what and when, will mess things up badly) or a VIDEO_TS that
> has some DRM  still active (did you copy this from a commercial DVD
> without removing ALL the copy-protection?).

One of the video_ts files I have will not play directly in the app "DVD
player".  But burned to a DVD it works find on the desktop players and
on the program "DVD Player" as well.

> The fact that burning following the instructions works here, on all my
> Macs (four of them with burners), and on the Macs of so many others
> indicates something wrong with either your hardware or your process.

Who's the manufacturer of the media?
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sbt - 23 May 2007 14:24 GMT
> >> The directions are more than apparent. I am well aware of those. I
> >> always used the Video burning window with the       `DVD-Video from
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> provide. I'm claiming it's true just that somebody who worked in
> manufacturing and told me this.

Sony doesn't make their own disks -- they purchase from various OEMs.
The QC work is "random sampling" from production runs and the runs with
the fewest problems go to the various companies (like Sony) that will
pay the higher prices.

> > Does the DVD play in your Mac's DVD Player application? If yes, then
> > the incompatibility is in your set top player vis a vis the media being
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Incidentally it was only in the DVD's playback on desk-top players that
> the issues (above) were manifest.

Then that suggests the media used is incompatible with that player or
that its laser has problems reading the data.

> > Some possibilities include an incomplete or corrupt VIDEO_TS folder
> > (corrupt or absent IFO/BUP files, which the player uses to "know" how
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Who's the manufacturer of the media?

I purchase Taiyo Yuden (they actually manufacture the DVDs sold under a
variety of labels) and the only coaster I ever had with them was one
that was burning when a "brownout" hit. I only use the "-R" (never +R,
although my burners support them as well). For DL discs, I use
Verbatim.

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