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dorayme - 26 Nov 2006 08:04 GMT Had another go at using fireFTP on Tiger but it does not seem to want to actually conect to any server I have access to? "unable to make a connection" in red constantly.
At this stage, please, has anyone had any luck with this Firefox extension on Tiger?
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Frédérique & Her vé Sainct - 26 Nov 2006 18:58 GMT > At this stage, please, has anyone had any luck with this Firefox > extension on Tiger? I did, found it a bit weak (the previous version at least could hang FF sometimes), then found it also accepted commands, which then becomes powerful.
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Sally Thompson - 26 Nov 2006 19:23 GMT > Had another go at using fireFTP on Tiger but it does not seem to > want to actually conect to any server I have access to? "unable > to make a connection" in red constantly. > > At this stage, please, has anyone had any luck with this Firefox > extension on Tiger? I use it regularly as an alternative to Cyberduck (as the mood takes me!). Have no problems with it except that I had to experiment a little with exactly what to put in the relevant boxes in the Account Manager. I like it because I usually have Firefox open anyway, and it saves opening another application.
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dorayme - 26 Nov 2006 20:49 GMT In article <0001HW.C18F9A16009EB054F0284530@news.individual.net>,
> > Had another go at using fireFTP on Tiger but it does not seem to > > want to actually conect to any server I have access to? "unable [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > because I usually have Firefox open anyway, and it saves opening another > application. Hi...
You updated to latest Cyberduck and no particular probs I take it...
About fireFTP, there is some stuff in help files about firewalls and router settings that may be relevant to my inability to connect to any servers that I have to look into. You behind a router or firewall, did you have to fiddle with anything to do with these?
Am considering some other FTP package, I suppose I really should buy a commercial product.
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Sally Thompson - 26 Nov 2006 22:45 GMT > In article > <0001HW.C18F9A16009EB054F0284530@news.individual.net>, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> At this stage, please, has anyone had any luck with this Firefox >>> extension on Tiger?
>> I use it regularly as an alternative to Cyberduck (as the mood takes me!). >> Have no problems with it except that I had to experiment a little with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You updated to latest Cyberduck and no particular probs I take > it... Yup. Didn't realise there was an update till I saw it mentioned here, but now have 2.7 and no problems.
> About fireFTP, there is some stuff in help files about firewalls > and router settings that may be relevant to my inability to > connect to any servers that I have to look into. You behind a > router or firewall, did you have to fiddle with anything to do > with these? I have a router with its own security, but no special firewall except the one that came with the Mac. I really had absolutely no problems, except when I changed hosts and had to use rather different style settings - then I did get the *cannot connect* message until I had sorted that out. I really do like FireFTP and like the fact that it's integrated with Firefox.
> Am considering some other FTP package, I suppose I really should > buy a commercial product.
Free can be good :-)
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dorayme - 26 Nov 2006 23:28 GMT In article <0001HW.C18FC97B00A9CC1DF0284530@news.individual.net>,
> ... > > About fireFTP, there is some stuff in help files about firewalls [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Free can be good :-) My interest in fireFTP has waned slightly in the last hour or two as I have been in contact with the CB author and some of the problems can be avoided. I will post on the right thread about this in case it helps anyone.
I will try to get fireFTP going as a back up though... it sort of helps to know that others are using something successfully. So, thanks for this.
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Warren Oates - 26 Nov 2006 23:46 GMT In article <doraymeRidThis-0545E3.07492827112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> Am considering some other FTP package, I suppose I really should > buy a commercial product. If you're comfortable with the command line, you could use ncftp, a very nice free cross-platform client (and a server as well, if you need). I've used it on OS X, Linux, Windows.
You'll have to get used to creating your own remote folders, and like that.
http://www.ncftp.com/
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dorayme - 27 Nov 2006 00:29 GMT > In article > <doraymeRidThis-0545E3.07492827112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.ncftp.com/ Thanks, I will take a look...
In particular, I would like to be able to move the contents of one level to a different level on the servers, in one simple step, never worked out quite how to do this in Cyberduck and know little of fireFTP on this score. I suspect your recommendation would be able to do this.
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Warren Oates - 27 Nov 2006 13:45 GMT In article <doraymeRidThis-3A8A80.11290127112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> In particular, I would like to be able to move the contents of > one level to a different level on the servers, in one simple > step, never worked out quite how to do this in Cyberduck and > know little of fireFTP on this score. I suspect your > recommendation would be able to do this. Moving stuff from folder to folder on the remote host? That's not easily accomplished with ftp. There aren't, as far as I know, any remote mv or cp commands, and you may not have the right permissions to create folders. You'd probably have to 'get -R' the stuff and 'put -R' it back where you want it to go.
If you want to move stuff around like that, you'll need an ssh session.
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dorayme - 27 Nov 2006 21:01 GMT > In article > <doraymeRidThis-3A8A80.11290127112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > If you want to move stuff around like that, you'll need an ssh session. I just don't know enough about this to comment. What I actually do is simple enough, it feels pretty dumb but it works of course: delete all the files unwanted in some folder. Go to another level. Upload the local copies to the folder I want. Not so onerous on broadband.
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Warren Oates - 27 Nov 2006 21:19 GMT In article <doraymeRidThis-E3D762.08010428112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> I just don't know enough about this to comment. What I actually > do is simple enough, it feels pretty dumb but it works of course: > delete all the files unwanted in some folder. Go to another > level. Upload the local copies to the folder I want. Not so > onerous on broadband. Ah. Well, that you can do with ncftp. You use rm to delete the files, then cd to move to another, er, "level" and then put to move the files from local machine to the remote host.
I assume you're working within a web site, so you probably have permissions within your site to create directories, move files around, rename them, that sort of stuff.
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dorayme - 27 Nov 2006 21:34 GMT > In article > <doraymeRidThis-E3D762.08010428112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > permissions within your site to create directories, move files around, > rename them, that sort of stuff. Yes, and create folders, create and change contents of any existing .htaccess files etc.
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Leonard Blaisdell - 27 Nov 2006 23:31 GMT In article <doraymeRidThis-BFA5A3.08340128112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> Yes, and create folders, create and change contents of any > existing .htaccess files etc. 'Fetch' has fallen out of favor over the years, although I still use and love it. It's a full featured GUI ftp/sftp client. It isn't free. Check out <http://www.fetchsoftworks.com> for what it can do. Mr. Oates' suggestion of 'ncftp' is a good one providing you are comfortable with the command line. Then again, if you are comfortable with the command line, 'ftp' is still waiting to serve you.
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Eric Lindsay - 29 Nov 2006 10:06 GMT > In article > <doraymeRidThis-E3D762.08010428112006@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > then cd to move to another, er, "level" and then put to move the files > from local machine to the remote host. You can use the ftp that comes with OSX, without bothering with ncftp. Just script it with a Here document under Bash. Pretty handy for web site work, especially for stuff you repeat a lot.
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Warren Oates - 29 Nov 2006 12:38 GMT In article <NOwebmasterSPAM-E4A350.20063429112006@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> You can use the ftp that comes with OSX, without bothering with ncftp. > Just script it with a Here document under Bash. Pretty handy for web > site work, especially for stuff you repeat a lot. Once you use ncftp, you'll never go back to the "stock" ftp. Every machine I set up, the very first program I build is ncftp, then I alias ftp to ncftp and I never see the old one again. Seriously, it's a class act.
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Eric Lindsay - 30 Nov 2006 06:06 GMT > In article > <NOwebmasterSPAM-E4A350.20063429112006@freenews.iinet.net.au>, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ftp to ncftp and I never see the old one again. Seriously, it's a class > act. I didn't mean to imply that ncftp wasn't a fine program, with many facilities not available in the stock ftp. I have it on my Mac.
It is just that when you do something web oriented that will end up being maintained from some other Macintosh or Linux, you may not have ncftp available. Having a Bash shell running the standard ftp via a here document pretty much always works first time.
Although (grumble) if the web site is being maintained from a Windows box, you don't have a Bash shell. Their stock ftp is however scriptable from an external file, essentially identical to your Here document, so it is still easy. (Not sure that is the case with Vista or even XP).
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