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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / October 2006Clarification on iTunes and CDs
Probably overlooking something REALLY obvious when I finally get the answer, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me directly: When I burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD player and not in some special format? > Probably overlooking something REALLY obvious when I finally get the > answer, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me directly: When I > burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD player and > not in some special format? It depends on the setting you choose in iTunes > Preferences > Advanced > Burning > Disc Format. If you select "Audio CD" then you will get an audio CD that is in the standard format and will play on any CD player (as long as it can handle recordable CD media of the brand you have used). If you select "MP3 CD" then the CD will be in a data format (probably ISO-9660) containing .mp3 files, and can only be played in a CD player that supports MP3 CDs. With this setting, iTunes will only burn tracks that are already in MP3 format - if you have tracks encoded in AAC (for example), they can't be burned to an "MP3 CD" unless you go through an extra step of manually converting them to MP3 before trying to burn the CD. If you select "Data CD" then the CD will be in a data format (probably ISO-9660) containing the songs in the same format they appear in your iTunes library - possibly a mixture of MP3, AAC, AIFF, Apple Lossless, etc. This type of CD will play in fewer standalone CD players, or some which can handle MP3 files might play selected tracks but skip others.  SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > > Probably overlooking something REALLY obvious when I finally get the > > answer, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me directly: When I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It depends on the setting you choose in iTunes > Preferences > Advanced > > Burning > Disc Format. Thanks I probably would have missed this part. Can I send a mixed format CD? My sister is doing a DVD for Christmas for the family and she wants a couple of songs (thus the first part of my question) and some still pictures that I am going to scan to JPG. Any reason I need to send her two CDs, one of each? > > > When I burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD > > > player and not in some special format? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > still pictures that I am going to scan to JPG. Any reason I need to > send her two CDs, one of each? iTunes and Finder can't burn a multi-session CD, so assuming your sister doesn't actually need to play the CD in a standard CD player (she just needs the files to include them in an iDVD project), your best option would be to burn the whole thing in Finder. 1. Create a playlist in iTunes with your audio tracks. 2. Insert a blank CD. (If your computer is set to do something specific with a blank CD this might open or switch to another application. You want to open the CD in Finder, so it appears on the desktop.) 3. Go back to iTunes, select all the songs in the playlist, and drag them to the CD icon on the desktop. 4. Go back to Finder, locate your JPGs and copy them onto the CD. 5. Click on the CD's name and enter something appropriate. 6. Burn the CD by dragging it to the trash. This will result in the songs being in the same format as they appear in your iTunes library. If they were purchased from the iTunes Store, this probably won't work due to DRM issues. In that case, your best option is turn burn two CDs, with one in Audio CD format from iTunes, and the other in standard data format from Finder. You get more options with third-party software like Roxio Toast Titanium, but I don't know whether it can burn audio tracks sourced from DRM protected songs in iTunes. (There is no iTunes Store in New Zealand, so I have no such songs to experiment with.) SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > > > > When I burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD > > > > player and not in some special format? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > needs the files to include them in an iDVD project), your best option > would be to burn the whole thing in Finder. Thanks. I'll probably just go with two CDs, one with songs (not iStore, just off of CDs I already have) and another with the pic files. Not like they are really expensive or anything. > If you select "Audio CD" then you will get an audio CD that is in the > standard format and will play on any CD player (as long as it can handle > recordable CD media of the brand you have used). In practice, how often is this an issue? > > If you select "Audio CD" then you will get an audio CD that is in the > > standard format and will play on any CD player (as long as it can handle > > recordable CD media of the brand you have used). > > In practice, how often is this an issue? Some very old CD players sometimes can't handle any CD-R media. You may also find that some have difficulty reading CD-R due to a dirty lens but are still able to read pressed CDs (my PowerMac 8600's CD-ROM drive is in this state at the moment). As a rule of thumb, avoid CD-RW, as it is more likely to have compatibility problems with old CD players. CD-R media is almost always OK with home stereos, but may have more difficulty in car CD players. For a particular CD player, you might find that some brands of CD-R work while others don't, due to different optical properties in the dye used. Picking a reasonably good brand of CD-R to start with is a good way to minimise the chance of this occurring. I currently prefer the deep blue tinted Verbatim Datalife Plus media, as I haven't encountered any problems with it (but I'm not doing much in the way of audio CDs). I've had more trouble with pale green and pale blue CD-Rs. SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > Some very old CD players sometimes can't handle any CD-R media. You may > also find that some have difficulty reading CD-R due to a dirty lens but [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > problems with it (but I'm not doing much in the way of audio CDs). I've > had more trouble with pale green and pale blue CD-Rs. Thank you for your comments. I burned one CD quite a while (and a couple of iTunes versions) ago and found that it wouldn't play in my (2002) car stereo. It was the brand you use, but a CD-RW. Perhaps I'll take another shot with something else. Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. SignatureDaveW ---------------- > Probably overlooking something REALLY obvious when I finally get the > answer, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me directly: When I > burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD player and > not in some special format? > Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can > only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software > installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. That's simply not true. Burning an audio CD is a feature of iTunes. > Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can > only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software > installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. WTF are you talking about? You can burn an audio CD that plays anywhere, an MP3 CD that will play on many modern CD players, or a data CD. Greg > ---------------- > "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:kurtullman-B7E9B5.08540017102006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx... > > Probably overlooking something REALLY obvious when I finally get the > > answer, but I can't seem to find anything that tells me directly: When I > > burn a CD from iTunes that is a CD that I can use with a CD player and > > not in some special format? > Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can > only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software > installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. 1. "Wrong" is not an appropriate answer for a question. The OP didn't ask in a form that presumed either answer. 2. On the other hand, "wrong" is exactly what this answer is. Yes, you can burn perfectly normal CDs that will play in any CD player. Yes, you can do that even for iTunes purchased music, although there are limits on how many of such CDs you can burn. I've done it for my iTunes purchased music. SignatureRichard Maine | Good judgement comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain > Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can > only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software > installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. This is absurd. First, iTunes defaults to burning CDs in standard audio format, which is playable in CD players (well, except for some older ones that have difficulty reading burned CDs, as opposed to manufactured ones, but that's a laser issue, not a format issue). Second, there's no such thing as "iTunes format." Signature<http://designsbymike.biz/macconsultshop.shtml> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/musings.shtml> Mostly muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/prius.shtml> Prius shirts & bumper stickers <http://cafepress.com/comedancing> Ballroom dance-themed shirts & gift > Wrong. The CD has the music files encoded in iTunes format. So you can > only listen to the CD on a computer that has iTunes listening software > installed. You cannot listen on a hi-fi stereo CD player. I think an apology from you would be appropriate here. As others have already pointed out, you are utterly incorrect. In fact it's a while since I read a post which contained this degree of "wrongness"!! What on earth did you mean by "iTunes format" anyway? Best to stick with stuff you actually know something about. SignatureAdrian |
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