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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / October 2006iDVD no sound?
> Right, so new Macbook is the passport to sticking my DV camcorder > footage on DVD is it? > Got a couple of problems that I'm getting quite *anxious* about: > 1) iMovie: massive bug importing 16x9 footage. You have to save > project immediately after capture, exit iDVD and then restart to avoid > "letterboxing" messages that last several days. Annoying, but > workable. > 2) (And this is the biggie) - any iMovie projects that I pass to iDVD > have *no sound*. None. Not an electronic sausage. Lots of reports on > the web about this, no fixes that I can find. What's going on? > > Can anyone help with the latter problem? Am trying it with Popcorn > now, but sod's law says it won't work... > > Ric just to clarify, sound is just fine in iMovie. Footage captured directly off my Sony DV camcorder. No funnies other than a few simple transitions and fades...WTF? ric >> Right, so new Macbook is the passport to sticking my DV camcorder >> footage on DVD is it? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > ric Is the Sony your using the one which records onto a DVD disk, or hard drive or tape? There are some really serious issues with some Sony camcorders especially the lower end ones... 16x9 is nightmare to work in even when using high end camcorders such as we do the Canon XM 2 and Final Cut Pro, Bitivce and DVD Pro...What you have taken has to be converted at some stage into the computer, some camcorders handle "emulating 16 x9 well" others do it rather badly and needs a different approach and some camcorders simply cannot transfer there version of 16x9 from camera to computer effectively and this includes PC's and simple like the type of tapes used can have serious impact on transferring data over....You will have to accept unless your using a true 16x9 capable camera then your going to to have limitations imposed on output and quality... Toast will convert better from iMovie and or iDVD to DVD... What OS are you using and which versions of iMovie iDVD and Quicktime are you using? It may be worthwhile visiting Apple disscussion forums for iDVD and iMovie theres a wealth of information there... Mike  SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... > Is the Sony your using the one which records onto a DVD disk, or hard > drive or tape? There are some really serious issues with some Sony [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > -- > Peace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... Hi, Cheers for the response. It's a Sony TRV19E DV camera, i.e. records to DV tape. CCD is a 4x3 and I'm shooting in 16x9 mode which crops top and bottom. Output is therefore 4x3 I guess and I expect iDVD to let me choose aspect ratio, which it does. There's no sound. This is trivial to get working on any Windows setup, and it also works if I burn the result with Toast. I also noted that quicktime doesn't play the iMovie output either. I can expect limitations on output quality, but burning a DVD that has sound on it doesn't seem a very big ask... Ric >> Is the Sony your using the one which records onto a DVD disk, or hard >> drive or tape? There are some really serious issues with some Sony [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Ric Check your sound settings when recording, make sure you have the quicktime sound settings correct and both iMovie and iDVD preferences are all set corectly, in reality it should be straight forward... However it mat be worthwhile noting that this particular model as some serious reliabilty/useage issues e.g from Amazon buyers.. "trv19 poor quality, after 3 months i had 3-4 hours of taping. it stopped recording, no image in lcd and viewfinder. bad ccd block. I contacted SONY, they told me they would fix it for a flat rate of $216.00 this is after speaking to 3 managers. It was $276.00 when I started. SONY support will not help or work to resolve a defective product. I will not purchase Sony products in the future" I would look at capturing in 4:3 and letting iDVD convert it? (I use Final Cut Pro/DVD Pro so not really well placed to advise on conversion) to 16x9....For my own use I simply capture in 4:3 and let my telly sort it into 16X9 which it does quite well... I believe the settings your using are not quite as they should be, hence the problems you seem to having, and for extra information Toast rips the project again... Hope this helps... Mike SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... > Check your sound settings when recording, make sure you have the > quicktime sound settings correct and both iMovie and iDVD preferences [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Peace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... looked in the iDVD forums and they're are loads of people with this issue. It's an intermittent iDVD 06 problem. apple haven't fixed it, either. the camcorder's just fine, thanks. someone with a broken CCD sensor doesn't really have much relevance to iDVD throwing away the audio on my footage. I do agree that generally Sony suck, however. After the rootkit debacle, I'm boycotting them in future anyway. Doesn't really help right now, though. Given my existing footage (many many tapes) is all in pseudo 16x9 I unfortunately couldn't afford to take all the holidays all over again to generate the footage all over again in a different video format! It wouldn't help, anyway. This doesn't appear to be an issue with the video format - rather it's peculiar to iDVD 06... ho hum. I moved from PC to Mac to avoid messing about with this kind of thing... ric >> Check your sound settings when recording, make sure you have the >> quicktime sound settings correct and both iMovie and iDVD preferences [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > of thing... > ric Get a copy of Final Cut Express and import into that then into iDVD as a quicktime export, if your footage has been correctly shot then it won't be an issue, if there are problems on how its been shot then you have a chance to put it right.. No software can be expected to correct errors made at camera stage and this I believe is the root of the problems and not iDVD... Mike SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... > Get a copy of Final Cut Express and import into that then into iDVD as > a quicktime export, if your footage has been correctly shot then it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Peace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... You're being silly now. Have a look at http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=c128&search=Go&q=%22no+sound%22. THIRTY FOUR PAGES and quite a lot of them are the exact same problem that wasn't present in iDVD 05, but was introduced in iDVD 06. Sound present in iMovie, usually present in DVD preview. Goes away when you burn the DVD. Sounds like an iDVD problem to me, particularly when Toast burns it just fine. Given I've bought iMovie and iDVD, I'd quite like them to work as advertised rather than buy yet more software which may or may not fix the problem. What makes you think it's a camera problem? Ric >> Get a copy of Final Cut Express and import into that then into iDVD as >> a quicktime export, if your footage has been correctly shot then it [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Ric iDVD expects a stream of data from the camera within a given specification to burn a DVD if the information being streamed from the camcorder does not meet the specification what does it do?? To stream data from a camera ideally needs to be via Firewire, USB cannot stream data a usable rate gven you have already emulated 16x9 this will add extra workload on the USB stream, as your probably aware USB delivers in short bursts this causes problems for the software to understand what is being sent.. You have footage which clearly is of importance to you, you need to answer the basic question do you want this footage to end up on a DVD to watch and enjoy or do you want to continue moaning about iDVD, the ball is firmly in your court... I currently have 27 students on a media course using a variety camcorders mainly Panasonic and JVC all are using iMovive, iPhoto and iDVD none are having any of the issues your describing and there footage is being captured on a variety Macs, they all know the importance of getting right in the camera please note none are using Sony Cameras and you will note that Apple stopped selling Sony cameras ask yourself why... There are solutions to your difficulties, if you wish to stay focussed on iDVD you need to clearly define where the issues lie, then ask if needed for any input to solvoing the issues... The suggestion about Final Cut Express was a genuine suggestion to solve what is a problem, if you intend to use a camcorder on a regualar basis, then this is the way to go, you have complete control... And for completeness if you do a search on SONY SOUND iDVD 06 you find 34 pages the default dedicated soley to the problems using this combination... http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=f1121&search=Go&q=sony+sound Best of luck in solving your problems... SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... > >> Get a copy of Final Cut Express and import into that then into iDVD as > >> a quicktime export, if your footage has been correctly shot then it [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > -- > Peace and Happiness is a State of Mind.... right, you're being deliberately obtuse now. there are no cameras on the market that stream DVD via USB. They all use firewire. Some Sony's will act as low-res web cams on USB, but that's it. You should know this. The Apple KB doesn't single out Sony, either. Do I want my footage to end up on a DVD? Yes. Does it look like iDVD 06 can do this reliably? No. Were your posts helpful? No. Back to Toast until Apple release a fix. Ric >snip > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Do I want my footage to end up on a DVD? Yes. Then learn how to shoot it correctly.. > Does it look like iDVD 06 can do this reliably? No. It does, ask the tens of thousands who have no problems... > Were your posts helpful? No. Obviously not, you did not want a solution, you wanted to rant about iDVD > Back to Toast until Apple release a fix. This confirms your desire to rant and blame iDVD for your failings.. You have now been killfiled.. And your the third person to be awarded the well earned signature.. > Ric Have a nice day... > > Do I want my footage to end up on a DVD? Yes. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Have a nice day... Oh, FFS. For the sake of completeness... I post a description of a problem, along with basic problem solving stuff that suggests there is a problem with an Apple app. You respond with complete rubbish and FUD about faulty CCDs, USB cameras, brands of cameras that Apple sell (!), and stupid links (34 pages on Sony camcorder problems? Have you *looked* at what you posted? Most of them are people asking where to plug a usb cable in, or talking about Sony DVD players, for heaven's sake...) For anyone else with this issue, some suggestions here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2886609� or http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2907236� or Appears to be an intermittent bug. Going to try exporting the whole movie as self-contained video and putting into iDVD - if that doesn't work then it's back to using Toast... Hopefully being killfiled will mean I don't have to listen to any more unhelpful suggestions that just lower the signal/noise ratio. Keep yourself nice. Ric |
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