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Adobe PS Elements 5.0 is out for Windows

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G.T. - 16 Oct 2006 22:15 GMT
Does anyone know if this means a Universal Binary of 5.0 will be out soon
for OS X?  If the features of 5.0 cover what I need I just might downgrade
from CS2 to Elements 5.0.

Thanks,
Greg
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sbt - 16 Oct 2006 23:10 GMT
> Does anyone know if this means a Universal Binary of 5.0 will be out soon
> for OS X?  If the features of 5.0 cover what I need I just might downgrade
> from CS2 to Elements 5.0.
>
> Thanks,

There is no indication at the Adobe web site that a Mac version of
Elements 5 is in the offing. Similarly, there are no rumors at the
usual sites of a beta version of a Mac release existing.

From those two (negative) data points, I would assume that the Elements
5 release is Windows-only. That wouldn't be surprising since the vast
majority of features added in the past couple versions have been
"Organizer"-related and the Mac version doesn't include Organizer.

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G.T. - 16 Oct 2006 23:28 GMT
> > Does anyone know if this means a Universal Binary of 5.0 will be out soon
> > for OS X?  If the features of 5.0 cover what I need I just might downgrade
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> majority of features added in the past couple versions have been
> "Organizer"-related and the Mac version doesn't include Organizer.

Yeah, but Elements 4.0 for Mac wasn't released until several months after
the Windows version, either.  In any case I hope they don't drop this
product line from the Mac platform.

Greg
Jim Redelfs - 19 Oct 2006 01:41 GMT
> I hope they don't drop this product line from the Mac platform.

Which is EXACTLY why I bought it:  So they'll hopefully keep it updated for us
poor Mac slobs.

I'll probably eventually learn how to use it a little more, too.   <sigh>
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Paul - 16 Oct 2006 23:48 GMT
> Does anyone know if this means a Universal Binary of 5.0 will be out soon
> for OS X?  If the features of 5.0 cover what I need I just might downgrade
> from CS2 to Elements 5.0.

In past versions, the pattern has been for Elements to come out later
on the Mac than on Windows. And, it tends to be a subset of the
previous release of Mac Photoshop code. I think this tells us
everything we need to know. The last Mac Photoshop code is CS2 which is
not Universal Binary because it predates Intel Macs. Adobe have already
announced that CS3 is coming out in spring 2007. Putting that together
with what history tells us, we can reasonably guess that Photoshop
Elements 5 for Mac will come out as a Universal as soon as there is
Universal Photoshop code base to draw from, or sometime in 2007.

The only way I can see Elements shipping first is if they don't wait
for Photoshop CS(3?) to go Universal. That could only happen if they
released Elements 5 as non-Universal or they fork the code base so that
it no longer depends on the larger Photoshop code base. But I don't see
what they would gain from forking it, seems like it would be a
duplication of effort. I stick to a prediction of mid-2007 for Elements
5 as a Universal.

Anyone who thinks Elements might have been dropped because it didn't
ship with Windows doesn't know the history, or are one of those
ultra-paranoid Mac users who always thinks the world is out to get the
Mac.
G.T. - 17 Oct 2006 01:01 GMT
> > Does anyone know if this means a Universal Binary of 5.0 will be out soon
> > for OS X?  If the features of 5.0 cover what I need I just might downgrade
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> Elements 5 for Mac will come out as a Universal as soon as there is
> Universal Photoshop code base to draw from, or sometime in 2007.

Or they've aready ported the current Elements codebase and they're just
adding things like curves, etc, that are already in CS 2 and Elements 5.0.

> The only way I can see Elements shipping first is if they don't wait
> for Photoshop CS(3?) to go Universal. That could only happen if they
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> duplication of effort. I stick to a prediction of mid-2007 for Elements
> 5 as a Universal.

I can't see them having that big of a gap between the releases for the two
platforms.

Greg
Reginald Dwight - 17 Oct 2006 14:59 GMT
> I can't see them having that big of a gap between the releases for the two
> platforms.

I suppose the fact that that is exactly what happened with the current
version doesn't have any weight in this, right?
G.T. - 17 Oct 2006 11:55 GMT
>> I can't see them having that big of a gap between the releases for the two
>> platforms.
>
> I suppose the fact that that is exactly what happened with the current
> version doesn't have any weight in this, right?

As far as Elements using the CS codebase?  If so, do you have a source
for that info?

Or do you mean as far as the gap?  If so, do you have the release dates
for 4.0?  I don't recall the gap being 9 months.

Greg

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Reginald Dwight - 17 Oct 2006 20:31 GMT
> Or do you mean as far as the gap?

Yep.

> If so, do you have the release dates
> for 4.0?  I don't recall the gap being 9 months.

I recall it being almost 6 months. Either way I bet the previous poster
is close with his mid-'07 prediction.
G.T. - 17 Oct 2006 22:18 GMT
> > Or do you mean as far as the gap?
>
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> I recall it being almost 6 months. Either way I bet the previous poster
> is close with his mid-'07 prediction.

Yes, you're much closer than what I was thinking.  From Amazon:

Windows version of 4.0 first available on 9/13/05
OS X version of 4.0 first available on 2/27/06

Here's hoping for beginning of 2nd quarter '07.

Greg
Reginald Dwight - 18 Oct 2006 05:14 GMT
> Here's hoping for beginning of 2nd quarter '07.

Really! I hate drooling for more than few months! :)
Steve Hix - 18 Oct 2006 05:27 GMT
> > Here's hoping for beginning of 2nd quarter '07.
>
> Really! I hate drooling for more than few months! :)

A good chapstick might help.
 
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